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In what genre should I classify the book I am writing?
I'd go with b (as long as it legit fits into those categories) cuz then you'd have more visibility. Plus, erotica and fantasy are both HUGE right now, eh?Have a hug,
Ann
Paranormal eroticaErotic urban fantasy
I'm with Tara on this one. Anything involving paranomal or magic elements that is also set in the modern day tends to fall into the genre of urban fantasy
That totally falls in the Urban Fantasy genre!
I think we may need more information, so we can make a sound and rational decision. Could you please describe, in as much detail and citing the original text where necessary, these erotic scenes for us?
B if I had to choose from your list but otherwise agree with everyone else about the necessity of 'urban'..The whole point, other than maximizing your potential within the category, is to make certain that no one buys your book under mistaken identity and it leave a sour taste in their mouth's. They will complain about it in the review.
Tara wrote: "Matthew FTW!!!"I did good? :)
Matthew wrote: "I did good? :)"You did aight ^_~
*serves cold beverages* *looks expectantly at Michel*
He just wanted to get us all in the same spot for goodness knows what...Then *poof* he vanishes.
*cues ominous music*
Helloooo? Michel? I believe someone asked for detailed, gritty description of your sex scenes? Where did we land on that?
Matthew wrote: "Helloooo? Michel? I believe someone asked for detailed, gritty description of your sex scenes? Where did we land on that?"XD
Matthew wrote: "I think we may need more information, so we can make a sound and rational decision. Could you please describe, in as much detail and citing the original text where necessary, these erotic scenes fo..."
Well, I already chose the title and cover for my current project. It will be titled 'AMERICAN SINNER' and will be a sequel to my Eternal Sinner
. The very first paragraph describes in great detail a sex scene were the heroine (she's a very, very bad girl, by the way) is jumping the bones of one of her numerous dates. There are numerous use of the F-bomb and other normally censored words, but done in context and not in a gratuitous way. On average there are at least one and often more separate sex scenes per chapter in my incoming book, all explicitely described. My heroine finances her day university studies at the UCLA by working evenings as a stripper in a Los Angeles cabaret in 1973. The heroine possess powerful magical powers and spell-casting abilities, plus frequently meets with vampires, werewolves, hybrid human-angels, hybrid human-demons and one dragon (all under human shape disguise of course) at a small L.A. bar opening on a dark alley. The true nature of the heroine would qualify by itself the book as at least being a Fantasy book, or 'Urban Fantasy', as suggested by Matthew and Courtney. There are murders, kidnappings, trips to Hell, a decapitation (with a Katana, High Annie!) and Mafia and Yakuza bad deeds. It will however be nothing like the YA/NA Fantasy shows we presently see on TV.
So, what is your verdict?
Well, I already chose the title and cover for my current project. It will be titled 'AMERICAN SINNER' and will be a sequel to my Eternal Sinner
. The very first paragraph describes in great detail a sex scene were the heroine (she's a very, very bad girl, by the way) is jumping the bones of one of her numerous dates. There are numerous use of the F-bomb and other normally censored words, but done in context and not in a gratuitous way. On average there are at least one and often more separate sex scenes per chapter in my incoming book, all explicitely described. My heroine finances her day university studies at the UCLA by working evenings as a stripper in a Los Angeles cabaret in 1973. The heroine possess powerful magical powers and spell-casting abilities, plus frequently meets with vampires, werewolves, hybrid human-angels, hybrid human-demons and one dragon (all under human shape disguise of course) at a small L.A. bar opening on a dark alley. The true nature of the heroine would qualify by itself the book as at least being a Fantasy book, or 'Urban Fantasy', as suggested by Matthew and Courtney. There are murders, kidnappings, trips to Hell, a decapitation (with a Katana, High Annie!) and Mafia and Yakuza bad deeds. It will however be nothing like the YA/NA Fantasy shows we presently see on TV.So, what is your verdict?
Matthew wrote: "Helloooo? Michel? I believe someone asked for detailed, gritty description of your sex scenes? Where did we land on that?"
Sorry, I was busy writing my message 19. I apologize to all of you for the delay.
Sorry, I was busy writing my message 19. I apologize to all of you for the delay.
Oh, man. Now we made him feel bad, guys...*give Mr Michel a comforting hug*
Better?
(Okay, I'm totally joking so if this sounds condescending? Sorry!!)
No offence taken, Annie. Up to now, the consensus seems to be that my incoming book should be classified as a mixed Erotica/Urban Fantasy novel. Do I have that right?
By the way, what does 'XD' means at the end of a post?
Michel wrote: "By the way, what does 'XD' means at the end of a post?"I don't really know how to explain it...I know what it means...but I'm not very good at explaining things...
Michel wrote: "By the way, what does 'XD' means at the end of a post?"It's a super happy smiley face. The D is the wide toothy smile and X is your eyes all squinted shut when you're sooo happy ^_~
Oh, it's sideways too. 1/4 turn clockwise should help ya, Mr Michel haha!
Courtney wrote: "That totally falls in the Urban Fantasy genre!"you nailed it.
UF.
but just b/c it has a lot of explicit sex--even multiple times in a chapter doesn't make it erotica, unless you strip out all of those scenes and have barely any semblance of a story remaining.
but Eternal Sinner sounds like and looks like erotica. maybe you should change it to a UF look and feel since the same heroine has supernatural powers (unless she's a succubus).
Alex G wrote: "just b/c it has a lot of explicit sex--even multiple times in a chapter doesn't make it erotica, unless you strip out all of those scenes and have barely any semblance of a story remaining."*high fives Awesome Alex*
Erotic Romance and Erotica are two totally different things.
Michel wrote: "Matthew wrote: "I think we may need more information, so we can make a sound and rational decision. Could you please describe, in as much detail and citing the original text where necessary, these ..."And boom goes does the dynamite! I'll be back with some meaningful and intelligent comments later...
Annie wrote: "Erotic Romance and Erotica are two totally different things."amazing how a single letter can make such a huge difference in the definition/connotation of word by changing it from an adjective to a noun.
Michel wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Helloooo? Michel? I believe someone asked for detailed, gritty description of your sex scenes? Where did we land on that?"Sorry, I was busy writing my message 19. I apologize to a..."
Hehe, its cool, I was just messing with you. I might have been messing with you when I demanded a detailed account of the erotica too. Who can tell?
Matthew wrote: "Hehe, its cool, I was just messing with you. I might have been messing with you when I demanded a detailed account of the erotica too. Who can tell?"you are cruel.
but it actually did help.
After reading the description, I think the right genre is 'contemporary', but allowing for 1973 - maybe 'historical', not sure whether 'fiction' or 'non-fiction' -:)I have maybe 10 friends - graduates of UCLA business school, so I may ask what's more appropriate
Hi Kavy,Do you feel the same when you write XD, and Awesome?
By the way are we talking about Amazon categories and genres or just how you yourself would categorize the book?
Graeme wrote: "Hi Kavy,Do you feel the same when you write XD, and Awesome?"
Maybe, XD
Tara wrote: "By the way are we talking about Amazon categories and genres or just how you yourself would categorize the book?"
I don't use Amazon services, so I want to decide which category to give myself to my book that would best describe it to potential readers.
I don't use Amazon services, so I want to decide which category to give myself to my book that would best describe it to potential readers.
You should create your own sub-sub-genre:Dark Urban Fantasy (DUF)
Gritty Urban Fantasy (GUF)
Sexualized Urban Fantasy (SUF)
So, using Denise's choice, at the top of your blurb, you could state:Gritty Urban Fantasyor add "novel" to it.
I thinkk adding gritty feels a bit like gilding the lily since urban usually covers that. You have so little time to capture the attention of readers in a market that is flooded that every word has to do something vital. Each word in the genre should add a layer to what the book is really about. Michel is lucky enough to be able to craft this himself so I would make sure that the word choice 100% reflects what is in the book.Denise
Thanks for the giggle.
I'd say B. Given all the types of characters and sexual content you mentioned i'd say B definitely qualifies.
*panics, tries to recall past indiscretions* *remembers I'm among friends, relaxes*
Denise, Michel *could* put a map in the front of the book.
AlexInfographics are everything ;)
Tara wrote: "Denise, Michel *could* put a map in the front of the book."Remember the road to glory is never a straight line ^_~
Noooo! Less worshipping - more practice lol.S
Annie - nothing wrong with the scenic route!
Tara wrote: "Annie - nothing wrong with the scenic route!"Oh, I wasn't talking foreplay haha! Just reminding the gentlemen to throw a curve ball cuz that leads to...umm...a home run?
Okay. I'm gonna stop reading this thread now cuz it's gonna go all sorts of wrong and I don't feel like deleting shizz today. Bye.
World, Writing, Wealth
Books mentioned in this topic
Magic Bites (other topics)Eternal Sinner (other topics)
- a: as an erotica novel;
- b: as a mixed erotica/fantasy novel;
- c: as a fantasy novel for adults; or
- d: something entirely on its own.
I would much appreciate your various opinions on this. Thanks in advance.