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message 1: by Tien (last edited May 15, 2014 04:03PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
oh my word... is it really that time already?! We're nearly halfway through (speaking of which, I'm about halfway through this pregnancy too! Can't wait!)

June:

Letter: R

Shelves:

1. wwii
2. indie-own childrens-literature
3. creepy
4. life-changing
5. historical-mystery
6. shifter Anthropology
7. battle-of-the-books
8. womens-fiction
9. alternate-history
10. 1001-books-to-read-before-i-die
11. apocalyptic
12. futuristic

Categories:

a. Main Character (90% of book): Female
b. Published in: 1980 - 1999
c. Number of Pages: 600+
d. Average rating of 4 or higher
e. Plant on cover (partials acceptable)
f. Published in: 1920 - 1949
g. Number of Pages: 201-300
h. Male Authors
i. Number of ratings more than 5,000
j. Cover is primarily dark colours (black, brown, dark blue etc) Think: Gloomy
k. Average rating of 3.5 or less
l. Multiple Authors (can be 2 -co-authors, OR many -for anthologies, etc)


message 2: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Thanks for posting so quickly Tien.

Is shelf #6 missing on purpose? Do we read anything we want?


message 3: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
sorry, Lauren, was fixing the link! You're too quick for me!


message 4: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Tien wrote: "sorry, Lauren, was fixing the link! You're too quick for me!"

Its because I'm constantly coming back to check this thread, lol! I'm addicted to looking for books to fit the shelves and categories.


message 5: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
ha ha, I know what you mean! Those few hours are so precious! ;)


message 6: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments I did a double-take when I saw this posted. It's hard to believe it's already mid-month!!


message 7: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
ah, maybe it isn't quite yet where you are... but the day is more than half gone for me :)

however, yes, it's pretty much mid-month and nearly mid-year!


message 8: by Coralie (new)

Coralie | 1612 comments I swear these get harder every month.


message 9: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 380 comments Hi, awkward Newbie, how do we play ? Trying to organize my June reading, but not sure what the above means, and can't see where to find it!

Help!! ( And thanks ;) )


message 10: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Hey Amanda,

Here is the link to the How to Play thread.

Feel free to ask any questions and we will try to help.


message 11: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Coralie wrote: "I swear these get harder every month."

I agree! I've looked through the listed shelves and only find 4 that have books on my TBR. I'm going to have to really work on getting this list together. A couple of the shelves (indie-own and shifter) had nothing that looked interesting to me -- suggestions appreciated :)


message 12: by Susan (last edited May 15, 2014 12:20PM) (new)

Susan | 3478 comments Mod
Well, this month clinches it! I'm never going to be able to finish this game. I thought I'd just be slow. But there are two shelves this month where I'm having no luck at all, and I can't skip both.

I don't quite understand the shelf "indie-own". But in 30 pages, I haven't found anything that would work: first of all, a vast majority of them are available only for the Kindle; then, when I do find one that doesn't require a Kindle that I think I might like, either there's no "R," or my library doesn't carry it.

And the shelf "shifters" is nearly as bad. The ones that appeal to me I've already read (or there's no "r" or they're number 6 or 7 in a series I haven't started, etc.).

Is there any chance the rules could be amended to say that overall, no more than 6 shelf can be skipped (but get rid of the requirement that no more than one can be skipped in any month)?


message 13: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Susan wrote: "Is there any chance the rules could be amended to say that overall, no more than 6 shelf can be skipped (but get rid of the requirement that no more than one can be skipped in any month)? "

I'd like to make that same change. I'm having the same problem for the same reasons (and, actually, on the same shelves).


message 14: by Coralie (last edited May 15, 2014 03:17PM) (new)

Coralie | 1612 comments Yes, they are the two shelves that I am having difficulty with.


message 15: by Tien (last edited May 15, 2014 03:19PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
oh dear... those were the 2 shelves I was considering of replacing yesterday!

How about if I replace them instead?


message 16: by Lyn (Readinghearts) (last edited May 15, 2014 03:24PM) (new)

Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
Susan wrote: "Well, this month clinches it! I'm never going to be able to finish this game. I thought I'd just be slow. But there are two shelves this month where I'm having no luck at all, and I can't skip both..."

This is actually Tien's brain child, and I'm pretty sure, based on past experience, that she won't change the "now more than one shelf in a month" rule for skipping. I think the idea is to get us to read out of our comfort zone a bit :( Especially since "shifter" books, while not a preference for most of us, are pretty mainstream and easy to get.

As for indie - own - My guess is that this list represents independently published books that people own. That would be why most of them are in electronic format only, and why most libraries don't have them.

I am going to go look at the shelf now to see what my recommendation to Tien might be.


message 17: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2149 comments I know of a site where you can download free ebooks (Kindle not required). My sister uses it all the time and I just found a few choices for this shelf there:

Nora Roberts Land by Ava Miles
VIP by M. Robinson
Ruin by C.J. Scott
Bound by Brenda Rothert

I had never used the site before, but just downloaded two books with no issue. Does anyone know if I am allowed to post the name here? I don't want to violate any rules on GR.


message 18: by Coralie (new)

Coralie | 1612 comments I would like to see indie-own replaced as it is an access problem. Shifter is just an intense dislike (I have actually read a couple on the shelf).


Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
Amy wrote: "I know of a site where you can download free ebooks (Kindle not required). My sister uses it all the time and I just found a few choices for this shelf there:

Nora Roberts Land by Ava Miles
VIP by..."


Thanks Amy. Those are good recommendations. As for listing the site...I put links to other sites on here at times and no one has ever made an issue of it.


message 20: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
um, what kind of site is that, Amy? If you have to ask, I'm guessing that it's not quite legal?

however, your note made me realise that there would be lots of indie ones on Smashwords. Some may be free and some may cost some money. No Kindle necessary -some you can read online or there are a few options for files. I'll see if I can find some free ones which may fit...


message 21: by Tien (last edited May 15, 2014 03:41PM) (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
This just arrived in my inbox...

Wings of Redemption (Return to Sanctuary 0.5) is free for a limited time on Entangled Publishing site

It's shelved on indie-own by 1 user (non PAS member)

Note: oops, thought they're selling them on the website but it actually directing you to B&N / Amazon / Kobo / iBookstore...


Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
Tien wrote: "um, what kind of site is that, Amy? If you have to ask, I'm guessing that it's not quite legal?

however, your note made me realise that there would be lots of indie ones on Smashwords. Some may ..."


Good point about the legality. I was presuming an established site.


message 23: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
Coralie wrote: "I would like to see indie-own replaced as it is an access problem. Shifter is just an intense dislike (I have actually read a couple on the shelf)."

lol - I love how you put it as 'intense dislike' although you do know that just makes me want to keep that shelf there...?! ha ha ha -yea, I'm evil like that!


message 24: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2149 comments Tien wrote: "um, what kind of site is that, Amy? If you have to ask, I'm guessing that it's not quite legal?

however, your note made me realise that there would be lots of indie ones on Smashwords. Some may ..."


I was just asking the question in general to make sure to do the right thing. I will PM you the name since I'm not an ebook reader and haven't a clue as to which sites are legit and which are shady.


message 25: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
Amy wrote: "I was just asking the question in general to make sure to do the right thing. I will PM you the name since I'm not an ebook reader and haven't a clue as to which sites are legit and which are shady."

yep, send me the link and I'll have a peek :)


message 26: by Amy (new)

Amy | 2149 comments Found a couple on Smashwords for letter R:

Nora Roberts Land
The Start of Something Good by Renee Vincent

Both are free and can be read on the computer with Adobe Digital Editions (epub file) for those without Kindles.


message 27: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
Okay, so...

I've replaced indie-own & shifter on basis:
1. difficult to get your hands on indie-own if you don't read ebooks plus I'm not going to ask you to spend the money to read them either! I definitely would not like being asked to spend money to complete a reading challenge especially on a book which I probably won't like to keep....
2. shifter books are usually a long series which may make it hard when the 'R' books are the 5th or 8th in the series and you've not read any of the earlier books.
3. I wasn't confident of these 2 shelves yesterday anyway so I should've listened to my gut feeling (!!!)

IF (like Amy) you've got books lined up for indie-own & shifter, then you don't have to go with the new shelves. You're free to choose either :)

My apologies for the inconvenience.


message 28: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Tien wrote: "oh dear... those were the 2 shelves I was considering of replacing yesterday!

How about if I replace them instead?"


Replacing the Indie-own shelf would be great. I just don't read any books online or with any e-reader, so if that's the only access, it's extremely limiting. Or I could just take that one as a "skip". I still can't find a book on "Shifter" but at least many of those are books.


Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
Tien wrote: "Okay, so...

I've replaced indie-own & shifter on basis:
1. difficult to get your hands on indie-own if you don't read ebooks plus I'm not going to ask you to spend the money to read them either! ..."


Yep, Anthropology will be no walk in the park, either. but at least that is more interesting.


message 30: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Oh, it looks like you replaced them up above? I just noticed that! Thanks!


message 31: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Just checked out Anthropology and it looks like there are some interesting books there. And for those who want fiction instead, it seems that some of Kathy Reich's thrillers are on it, too.


Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
LynnB wrote: "Just checked out Anthropology and it looks like there are some interesting books there. And for those who want fiction instead, it seems that some of Kathy Reich's thrillers are on it, too."

ooh, that is perfect!


message 33: by Coralie (new)

Coralie | 1612 comments Thank you. I will check out the replacement shelves when I get back from my weekend away.


message 34: by Susan (new)

Susan | 3478 comments Mod
Thank you for being so responsive, Tien!


message 35: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Thanks for replacing the indie-own shelf, Tien. I also noticed that all of the books on that shelf were shelved by the same person - strange.

I've already found a book for the Shifters shelf. Can I keep that one rather than replacing it?

Also, I've read so many children's books for this challenge already so can I change the Indie-Own for Anthropology instead?


message 36: by LynnB (new)

LynnB | 1672 comments Lauren wrote: "Thanks for replacing the indie-own shelf, Tien. I also noticed that all of the books on that shelf were shelved by the same person - strange.

I've already found a book for the Shifters shelf. Can ..."


In message 27 Tien said it was okay to use the old set of shelves or the new choices :)


message 37: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments LynnB wrote: "Lauren wrote: "Thanks for replacing the indie-own shelf, Tien. I also noticed that all of the books on that shelf were shelved by the same person - strange.

I've already found a book for the Shift..."


Thanks Lynn. I missed that post :0)


message 38: by Susan (last edited May 16, 2014 12:37PM) (new)

Susan | 3478 comments Mod
LynnB wrote: "In message 27 Tien said it was okay to use the old set of shelves or the new choices :) ."

But I don't think that totally answered Lauren's question. She wants to use shifters and Anthropology, and get rid of indie-own and childrens-literature. So I think she's asking whether she can replace indie-own with anthropology rather than with childrens-literature, which involves swapping the two substitutes.

That might be a question Tien needs to answer?


Lyn (Readinghearts) (lsmeadows) | 2834 comments Mod
Lauren wrote: "Thanks for replacing the indie-own shelf, Tien. I also noticed that all of the books on that shelf were shelved by the same person - strange.

I've already found a book for the Shifters shelf. Can ..."


As LynnB said, you can use the old shelves instead of the new shelves.

Your second question is interesting. My first inclination would be that you cannot exchange one of the new shelves for the other, but after thinking about it for a while, it makes a certain amount of sense to be able to use any combination of them.

Hopefully Tien will clarify later today when she is on.


message 40: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Susan wrote: "So I think she's asking whether she can replace indie-own with anthropology rather than with childrens-literature, which involves swapping the two substitutes. "

That's exactly my question. Thanks Susan.
I have found a book for the anthropology shelf but will wait for Tien's answer. If not, I'll keep the book I was going to read for indie-own.


message 41: by Tien (new)

Tien (tiensblurb) | 8762 comments Mod
Good morning!! sorry for the delay :)

What I wish to accomplish from this challenge is to encourage a wide-ranging sort of reads (as is the main purpose of this group). I know that we've had a few 'children' type books for the previous months and whilst I'd also like to promote indie books, in terms of 'genre', they are all over the place which we may / may have covered anyway. So, at this stage, I'd say you're welcome to pick either indie-own or anthropology, Lauren :)


message 42: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1110 comments Tien wrote: "Good morning!! sorry for the delay :)

What I wish to accomplish from this challenge is to encourage a wide-ranging sort of reads (as is the main purpose of this group). I know that we've had a f..."


Thanks Tien

You are definitely succeeding with your goal. I'm reading book I never would have read otherwise :0)


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