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message 1: by Melki, Femme fatale (new)

Melki | 967 comments Mod
This month we'll be reading the winner of the Comedy Hour poll - The Automatic Detective.

Two things make this an unusual read for our group - the author is still alive, but the detective in his book is not. In fact, Mack Megaton is a seven-foot-tall, metal "killing machine."

By way of introduction, I'm going to snatch a paragraph from the excellent review by the group's own Algernon - https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


The plot and the dialogue are vintage Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammett, transplanted to a futuristic setting of chemical and radioactive waste, mutant humans, miniature gadgets, powerful and mysterious ganglords, cynical policemen and blonde bombshells. For all his artificial intelligence detachment and cold analytical power, Mack has really mastered the staccatto delivery of short sentences and the wisecracks of a classic gumshoe detective, so his soon acquired wardrobe of pinstripe suit, fedora and mackintosh is entirely appropriate. His style of solving problems may have more to do with bulldozing through every obstacle than clever deductions, but it proves nevertheless effective. The metal man even gets a romantic interest in a socialite beauty that hides genius level technological talents and a passion for nuts and bolts. The finale was spectacular in an explosive, over the top way: think Godzilla and Mission Impossible directed by Kevin Smith.

Welcome to September, everybody. Let's be careful out there.


message 2: by Algernon, Hard-Boiled (new)

Algernon | 679 comments Mod
thanks for the heads-up. I am tempted to re-read this inorder to refresh my memory.


message 3: by Tom (new)

Tom Mathews | 414 comments I just picked it up from Audible. Not sure if I can squeeze it in for a couple weeks though.


message 4: by Franky (new)

Franky | 472 comments I'll be in. I ordered my copy and awaiting its arrival.


message 5: by Bill (last edited Sep 03, 2016 07:05AM) (new)

Bill (coloradobill) I am 15% in....love my paperbacks, but thought the nature of the text called for my Kindle. After about 5% in I had
become absolutely hooked!


message 6: by Still (new)

Still I bought a used copy, ex-library yesterday on eBay. Hope it's in better-than-described condition.


message 7: by Melki, Femme fatale (new)

Melki | 967 comments Mod
I started this a few days ago, and am having a little trouble really getting into it. Then again, there are a lot of distractions these days: beautiful weather outdoors, season two of Narcos indoors . . .


message 8: by Tom (new)

Tom Mathews | 414 comments I started listening to the audio recording yesterday. I'm not quite sure what I think yet. I assume the narrator is trying to sound like a robot but he seems to be doing it by avoiding much of the inflections that suggest humor. There are some good lines, in it, though.
'The force of the explosion must’ve knocked me through the wall into the next apartment. Odds were good I’d landed on somebody, but I didn’t feel anything squishy under me. I stood.'



message 9: by Jim (last edited Sep 05, 2016 11:11AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 446 comments Agreed, Tom. Very good lines & humor. I just read that section & loved the line, "The advantage of a complex electronic brain was that I could multitask in my obsessions."

Kind of weird, but the audio book I'm listening to right now is Treasure Island.


message 10: by Bill (last edited Sep 05, 2016 12:49PM) (new)

Bill (coloradobill) Well, nothing like a long weekend with a new book. Just finished up and would basically give the first half of the book 5 out 5 stars and the second half only 2 or 3. Will discuss my thoughts more when folks have finished reading. As for lines:

...maybe the way she chewed her gum like it deserved to suffer....

There was another, but do not want to spoil it. Would like to see a second run with these characters, though.


message 11: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 446 comments I thought it was a hoot. Loved it. Gave it 4 stars in my review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

A lot of the humor provoked some thought. Loved the point of view & the characters.


message 12: by Bill (new)

Bill (coloradobill) Jim wrote: "I thought it was a hoot. Loved it. Gave it 4 stars in my review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

A lot of the humor provoked some thought. Loved the point of view & the chara..."


Indeed. It was the relationships that kept me going. Especially Mack's best friend.


message 13: by Algernon, Hard-Boiled (new)

Algernon | 679 comments Mod
Bill wrote: "Jim wrote: "I thought it was a hoot. Loved it. Gave it 4 stars in my review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

A lot of the humor provoked some thought. Loved the point of view..."


"never get between an eight-hundred-pound gorilla and Jane Austen" seems like sound advice


message 14: by Bill (last edited Sep 08, 2016 09:09PM) (new)

Bill (coloradobill) My wife and loved that line as well. Both Austen fans so we had a soft spot for Jung right off the bat.'


message 15: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 446 comments It was the underlying humor in every detail that really kept me going. There were a lot of great lines, but things like putting April's drawing on Jung's refrigerator as if there was no other place for a child's art tickled me, too. I think some of that got lost in the last part of the book, unfortunately. I was so hooked & the action was so fierce by that time that it didn't matter too much.


message 16: by Melki, Femme fatale (new)

Melki | 967 comments Mod
Bill wrote: "Well, nothing like a long weekend with a new book. Just finished up and would basically give the first half of the book 5 out 5 stars and the second half only 2 or 3. Will discuss my thoughts more ..."

Funny - I had the opposite reaction. The book didn't really come alive for me until the second half. I pegged it as a three-star much of the way through, but the slam-bang ending bumped it up to four. Anyway, this was a nifty read I wouldn't have discovered without this group.


message 17: by Tom (new)

Tom Mathews | 414 comments I love it when noir gets philosophical:
“You’re not a biological. You won’t be affected by our plans. Why would you risk your continued functioning? It’s illogical.”
It was a good question, and I had a good logical answer to it. Self-preservation was a basic directive, but there wasn’t a robot functioning that prioritized it at the top of his list. Like biologicals, all robots were seeking a purpose. A bot had to find his own way, and I’d figured out that functioning for function’s sake was pointless. The real question was finding a directive worth getting scrapped for.



message 18: by Algernon, Hard-Boiled (new)

Algernon | 679 comments Mod
Mack's logical circuits got infected by a virus called 'consicence'. That made him damaged good as far as his military handlers were concerned. I wonder when will today's drones develop a conscience and refuse to drop bombs on non-military targets.


message 19: by Paul (new)

Paul | 925 comments My review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I thought it quite good, though for me, the humor could have been drier, even cynical & more world weary.


message 20: by Still (new)

Still I'm reading this now.
So far I'm loving it.
All 176 pages I've read.


message 21: by Franky (new)

Franky | 472 comments Just jumped into this book again, had to take a reading hiatus for a week or two, but I'm catching up on all the comments. I agree with the undertones of humor throughout. I really dig the whole noir/crime book meets sci-fi/robot twist. Very creative and imaginative. And I love the exchange between Mack and Lucia Napier the first time they meet, very nice homage to noir there with some subtle jabs at wit thrown in.

Napier's smile widened. "A pleasure to finally meet you, Mack."
"Likewise."
"Are you saying that be polite or do you really mean it."
"I'm just saying it."
She giggled lightly. "Oh, I do love you robots and your ruthless honesty."

Anyhow, almost finished. Digging it so far.


message 22: by Franky (new)

Franky | 472 comments Finally finished about a week ago.

Overall, pretty enjoyable read. Probably my only beef was the last part, where it got a little over the top, but I really like how the author sets up this society with biologicals and robots interacting and mixes in a 7 foot tall robot as a detective...(wait, did I just say that?)


message 23: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 446 comments LOL! Yeah, you did you messy biological.
;)


message 24: by Still (new)

Still Loved that novel, Frank.
Your quote was one of my favorite exchanges.


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