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message 51: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Also, I'm really hoping [spoilers removed]"
[spoilers removed]"What, a super damaged zealot can't be an effective leader? ;)"


Well..... it seemed unlikely.

Jeff, it was an awesome story arc. (view spoiler)


message 52: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Also, I'm really hoping [spoilers removed]"
[spoilers removed]"What, a super damaged zealot can't be an effective leader? ;)"


I think we might need a separate thread to go into this debate ;)


message 53: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Yeah, plot points and arcs always change during drafting, but that one was ce..."


Honestly, if that wouldn't have happened, I probably would have knocked off a star because it really wouldn't have matched their characters so far as I understood them. I wasn't sure how it was going to play out, but I was hoping for something along those lines. Even though I was hoping for it, I was pretty surprised!


message 54: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Sleeping is good too...not quite as good as a good book, but sadly necessary. Think of all the time we could spend reading if we didn't have to sleep. :O


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Also, I'm really hoping [spoilers removed]"
[spoilers removed]"What, a super damaged zealot can't be an effective leader? ;)"

I think we might need a sepa..."


Haha! Truth.


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Yeah, plot points and arcs always change during drafting, but th..."


I try hard to identify with all the characters, empathize with their motivations, plights, fears, ambitions, whatever. My goal was to complicate things enough you could kind of see where everyone was coming from. Well, except maybe Azmorgon. He isn't too layered. But still fun to write. ;)


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Angela wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Also, I'm really hoping [spoilers removed]"
[spoilers removed]"What, a super damaged zealot can't be an effective leader? ;)"

Well..... it seemed unlikely..."


That was actually a tough scene to write. Two were tougher, of course, but that one still ranked pretty high on the tough scene scale for me.


message 58: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Yeah, plot points and arcs always change during dr..."


As for Azmorgon, sometimes you need as ass of a character to make the others look better. I think his attitude made me like Mulldoos a lot more. Azmorgon is just fun to hate and also poke fun of because none of his jokes make sense.


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Yeah, plot points and arcs always cha..."


I figured even if readers grew to like some/most of the Jackals, there had to be one irredeemable asshole in the company.


message 60: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Angela wrote: "8% to go. I'm such a nana these days. I make myself stop reading so I can sleep ;). [spoilers removed]"

Yeah, plot points and arcs always cha..."


Agreed Jenna. It did make Mulldoos more likeable. (view spoiler)


message 61: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
I never mentioned my final thoughts. Overall this series is wonderful. I really loved the fact that our POV character is Arki and I found him a unique character to portray the story through. I loved that we had strong female characters and how each character added to the story. Whether or not they made it out alive. I found the conclusion very satisfying as a reader and it really made sense to the overall story arc of the characters. I'm really looking forward to reading more by Jeff in the future.


message 62: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Angela wrote: "I never mentioned my final thoughts. Overall this series is wonderful. I really loved the fact that our POV character is Arki and I found him a unique character to portray the story through. I love..."

I definitely agree.

Thanks for joining us Jeff!


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Bloodsounder, but I'm really excited about it. Just finished a final(ish) the agent is reviewing, so with any luck we can start pitching it in a couple of months and hopefully find a home for it.

Thanks again!


message 64: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
Good luck Jeff. Thanks for discussing the book with us. It's been great.


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Angela wrote: "Good luck Jeff. Thanks for discussing the book with us. It's been great."It's been a blast; I'm glad I got to participate. It's fun (and sort of terrifying) seeing people's reactions in real-time.


message 66: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
I can imagine it would be a little terrifying.


Samir (royceblackwater) | 842 comments Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Bloodsounder, but I'm really excited about it. Just finis..."

Hi Jeff! Will the next series be a trilogy as well?


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Bloodsounder, but I'm really excited about i..."

Hi Samir. It will at least be a trilogy, and possibly a longer series. Still mulling over options and just started writing the dreaded synopsis for what happens after book 1. The series is a fusion of urban fantasy-ish elements (though no vampires or werewolves!) and science-fiction (though not set deep in the future). Four main POV characters (two male; two female), a lot of snark and sarcasm, and tons of action.


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Samir (royceblackwater) | 842 comments Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Bloodsounder, but I'm really e..."

I love the sound of that already! I'm a big fan of your writing, Bloodsounder's Arc is one of my favorite series and i plan to re-read it and hopefully write better reviews for it because I wasn't very good at writing them at that time. Sorry, I digressed a bit. I'm very excited about your new series and I shall eagerly await news about the release date.


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Bloodsounder, but..."

You rock. I'm really glad Bloodsounder worked well for you. Grimoire Zero isn't fluffy unicorns farting rainbows--there are still some dark things that happen, and it would be rated R if it was a movie--but it has more humor than BA (well, *I* think I'm funny), is a bit zanier, and it moves a lot faster. Plus, I love the characters. L-O-V-E.

It definitely has a different tone and feel, and it's a pretty big departure from the BA world, but the beta readers seemed to dig it, and I feel good overall, so here's hoping it takes flight.


Samir (royceblackwater) | 842 comments Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree turn from Blo..."

I love sarcasm in your novels, it was one of Cpt. Killcoin's trademarks and I loved him for it so I'm pretty sure I'll dig the new characters. Thank you so much for the information and I wish you good luck with the pitching and finding a home for it. Can't wait to read it!


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Samir wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thank you, everyone, for reading and discussing the book and series. I'm really glad you enjoyed. The next series is a 180 degree ..."

Braylar? Sarcastic? What the what??

He was a ton of fun to write. No matter what series I jump into, or how many characters I ultimately pen, that biting bastard will always be one of my favorites.


message 73: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
Wow I missed a lot happening in this thread! The new series sounds super exciting - I can't wait to read it.


message 74: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
I love urban fantasy. Looking forward to the new book when it comes out.

Jeff did you know with Bloodsounder's Arc that it was always going to be a trilogy?


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Jenna wrote: "Wow I missed a lot happening in this thread! The new series sounds super exciting - I can't wait to read it."
Thanks, Jenna! Glad you like the sound of it.


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Angela wrote: "I love urban fantasy. Looking forward to the new book when it comes out.

Jeff did you know with Bloodsounder's Arc that it was always going to be a trilogy?"


Yeah, I always planned three or four books for Bloodsounder's Arc.

UF and Sci fi are both outside my wheelhouse but I wanted to see if I could pull it off.


message 77: by Angela, I'm Silverfox lost (new) - rated it 4 stars

Angela | 3694 comments Mod
Thank you for answering my question. :)


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Angela wrote: "Thank you for answering my quest

Sure thing, Angela.



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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments There still might be edits based on agent feedback, and eventually editor feedback, so it isn't final, but if anyone wants to see an excerpt of the new book in its working form, let me know. . .


Samir (royceblackwater) | 842 comments Jeff wrote: "There still might be edits based on agent feedback, and eventually editor feedback, so it isn't final, but if anyone wants to see an excerpt of the new book in its working form, let me know. . ."

I'm letting you know :D


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Jeff Salyards | 24 comments Shoot me your email and I'll send a PDF of the first couple of chapters.


Samir (royceblackwater) | 842 comments Jeff wrote: "Shoot me your email and I'll send a PDF of the first couple of chapters."

Woohoo! Thank you very much!


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