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message 1: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments That without the structure of any story being sound, the whole project, in any genere, becomes unstable.

Nothing, production-direction-acting, will be able to make it sound.

Kind of like designing a two legged stool.

Bring this up after watching the "final" movie in the devergent series. Spoiler: Final in the sense of that final shot of Jeff Daniels in the background.


Very week writing; that led to week "rolodex plot" production; that led to week direction, that led to week acting. In a story with a strong female lead/protagonist. As best as Hollywood could muster anyway.

Without strong stories, and in that context, strong writing and female leads, society suffers.


message 2: by Tim (new)

Tim Alright, I think I see your point. However, I think you phrased the title of this thread a bit faultily. You say "why everyone should pay way more attention to writers" but I think you meant "why everyone should pay way more attention to writing". I don't know if that can be edited, but worse still, I don't know how we can talk about great pieces of writing (be they books, comic books, films, or even video games) without spoiling them.


message 3: by Adam (new)

Adam Sowa | 227 comments Tim wrote: "Alright, I think I see your point. However, I think you phrased the title of this thread a bit faultily. You say "why everyone should pay way more attention to writers" but I think you meant "why e..."

Writers as in the person doing, rather than writing as in the "end product". Whether that be a book; a screenplay; a script for a stage play, or from a stand-up comic.

The person that creates a story based upon observation of society.


message 4: by Tim (new)

Tim Very well, which particular writers have caught your interest as of late, then? I'll admit I usually don't really look into the writers of the books I read, in any case not of the fictional works.


message 5: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 272 comments two of my favorite writers are p.g. wodehouse and tom robbins. to me, wodehouse is the master of the written word, while robbins is the master of the metaphor (his smile was like the first scratch on a new car). both of these authors have had their works made into either tv series or movies, and while the wodehouse series was entertaining, his writing, his word descriptions, etc., get completely lost. robbins, same thing (even cowgirls get the blues with uma thurman), but in this case, even the movie wasn't very good. i've been big fans of these two for a long time, have many of their books, and have read them over and over. literary geniuses, in my opinion.


message 6: by Iván (new)

Iván Viñas | 25 comments It was a bit confusing to me also, but i get it now. You are talking about writers in movies or television. Writers should have more respect so that we get better writers, and better stories for movies or television. I don't know the divergent series, but, i've heard the books after the first one are not very good. so I don't know if it's a problem with the writer of the novel, or with the screenwriter or even with the director.
See, so many people work in a movie, that what you read on the page of the script is 60 % of what ends up on screen, sometimes even much less. Television is different, because of time restraints, directors usually don't change much. But writers are constrained by the format, and also, there's usually a group of writers that work in different scenes.
Movies and TV are such a collaborative effort to tell a story that sometimes I'm amazed that we get good stories at all. But also, there are great scripts that have made mediocre movies. Still I agree that we should give more importance to writers


message 7: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 272 comments ooops! i goofed. i got writers mixed up with authors. got it now.

i agree, tho, that the writers for tv and movies deserve a lot of credit. seeing that so many movies are derived from books makes their job pretty tough. personally, i thought the best transition from book to movie was 'gone with the wind'. the writers of the movie took all the salient points of the movie out of the book, and translated them beautifully into a visual and linguistic masterpiece. i know there's a lot more people involved in making a movie look great, but the writers are the interpreters between mediums.


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