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Rowling just pulled that one out of her ... sorting hat. Yet another gaping plot hole.


When Voldy realized its Neville, he offered him a death seater membership but Neville refused thus he was punished by Voldy.
Voldy cast a spell creating a disfigured bird with the sorting hat in its beak. The hat was then thrust by Voldy into the head of neville and cast a spell.
The spell broke when chaos occurred as the centaurs finally decided to fight Voldy. They stormed Hogwarts and the Death Eaters caught by surprised were struck by arrows. Helping out was Grawp (Hargrid's brother and Buckbeak the hippogriff together with the thestrals.
At this pt. Neville was able to remove the sorting hat from his head and this was the time that the sword of Godric Gryffindor get into the picture. Like in book 2, the sword was magically produced by the sorting hat.
The appearance of the sword was carefully and magnificently orchestrated by JK Rowling into the plot not just in any other manner.




The sword is never literally stored inside the hat. It doesn't matter where the sword is physically stored -- be it Dumbledore's office, the bank or someone's broom closet -- it can be called for by a true Gryffindor at any time through the hat. It's like a built in "Accio sword" spell, except it comes through the hat instead of flying through the air (which is probably a dangerous thing to do with a sword...)



i dont think that is necessary. Each time someone pulled the sword out, they were a gryffindor.
Perhaps if it was a ravenclaw in need, or a slytherin in need, they would pull something else out.

And I completely agree that Neville pulled the sword from the hat because he was a true Gryffindor and because, as Dumbledore said, "Help always comes to those who ask...at Hogwart's" (sorry, don't have the quote here).

"I will only truly have left this school when none here are loyal to me..."
"Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who ask for it."
remember that both Harry in COS and Neville in DH strongly declared their allegiance to Dumbledore shortly before Gryffindor's sword appeared out of the Sorting Hat...and only a true Gryffindor could retrieve the sword in time of need, no matter where it was (or where they were). so, the appearance of the sword at that time falls in with plot lines laid out several books ago. the sword didn't need to make an appearance in *every* book in order for it to be a legitimate part of the last one.
on the side, i thought it was GREAT that BOTH of the potential subjects of Sybill's prophecy -- that someone born "as the seventh month dies" -- played a role in Voldy's defeat...Harry & Neville were both born at the end of July.


Godric Grffyindor

and I agree that neville got the sword for the same reason that harry did in the chamber, because he was a true gryffindor.

I didn't pay enough attention to notice that Neville had the sword. Oh well. Now I know.

That's how Harry got it in Chamber of Secrets. That's how Neville got it at the end.
The hat is not prejudiced against goblins. Goblins are simply not Gryffindors. And I know someone will argue that they are the "true owners" of the sword, but I suspect that the sword's ability to find worthy Gryffindors was placed upon it by Gryffindor himself...he would have felt that he was the true owner.

I agree with Montambo and Goldie =)


Neville is a true Gryffindor.


You put that wonderfully!
At the time Neville turned down the DE membership, he knew what Ol' Voldy would do to him. He still turned him don, representing the Gryffindor side of him that had come out during his seventh year at Hogwarts. It could be said that Neville could also be said as the one of the prophecy, as he killed the final Horcrux. Also, since Voldy is the Heir of Slytherin, well, the hat was Gryffindor. In the GoF, the Hat sings that '[Gryffindor] whipped me off his head/and put some brains in me," or something along those lines.
Tracey wrote: "Jane said: "And I completely agree that Neville pulled the sword from the hat because he was a true Gryffindor and because, as Dumbledore said, "Help always comes to those who ask...at Hogwart's" (..."
Right! Harry defended Ol' Dumbles' legacy in the Chamber, and Neville declared his alleigance to Dumbledore's Army.
Malia wrote: "pardon me if i'm wrong but isn't neville a hufflepuff?"
Neville was almost a Hatstall (someone who's Sorting takes longer than 7 mins because the Hat is pulled between two houses. Hermione was almost one between Gryffindor and Ravenclaw.) between Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. The Hat wanted to put him in Gryffindor, but Neville, thinking he wasn't brave enough for Gryffindor (as he has said several times throught the series), wanted to get put in Hufflepuff. The Hat won eventually.
Right! Harry defended Ol' Dumbles' legacy in the Chamber, and Neville declared his alleigance to Dumbledore's Army.
Malia wrote: "pardon me if i'm wrong but isn't neville a hufflepuff?"
Neville was almost a Hatstall (someone who's Sorting takes longer than 7 mins because the Hat is pulled between two houses. Hermione was almost one between Gryffindor and Ravenclaw.) between Gryffindor and Hufflepuff. The Hat wanted to put him in Gryffindor, but Neville, thinking he wasn't brave enough for Gryffindor (as he has said several times throught the series), wanted to get put in Hufflepuff. The Hat won eventually.



Not fair."
lol you should make a goblin club with hermione :)

Determining who is a "worthy Gryffindor" is also part of the Sorting Hat's magic. The hat was also once Gryffindor's hat. So the two objects clearly have some magical link.
I don't think the sword belongs in or with the hat like some people seem to be saying. I think the hat is merely a passage that the sword can use. It can make it to Gryffindors in other ways too (like when Harry found it under the ice). But since the hat was also Gryffindor's and knows what house every Hogwarts student past and present belongs in, it can create a passage for the hat to travel through to reach the Gryffindor's when they are showing bravery and in need of help.
When Neville stood up to Voldemort, resulting in a burning Sorting Hat his head, he proved himself as a worthy Gryffindor. The sword presented itself to him the same way it presented itself to Harry in Chamber of Secrets. We don't know what Neville was thinking while he was wearing the hat. But since it was on fire, we can reasonably assume that he was thinking similar thoughts to what Harry was thinking when he put the hat on in Chamber of Secrets. That was, I believe, "Help!".
It took a moment for the sword to appear inside the hat when Harry wore it. It probably took a moment to appear in the hat while Neville was wearing it too.
Remember, Neville was also petrified from Voldemort's spell. When that spell broke, he was able to reach into the hat and retrieve the sword that probably landed on his head shortly after the hat started burning.
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How did Neville get Godric's sword? The last I remember seeing it, Griphook had it in Gringott's, and then suddenly Neville has it right at the end when he needs it. Did anyone understand how it made its way to Neville?