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      Aug 09, 2016 07:09AM
    
    
      love what Roarke gave Eve for Christmas he knows she is not a material woman so he gives her the best gloves money can buy because her hands are always cold and a lovely warm cashmere coat that is too nice for her to wear to work but shows that he is always looking to take care of her mentally and physically. that said so much to me.
    
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      I also love that Eve wears Peabody's sheriff's badge with honor and for good luck. I quess it worked.
    
      Eve is always so shy about wearing the nice coats and gloves Roarke gives her, because of her job. She's afraid of ruining them. And she does. She always loses the gloves.
    
      My big momentous moments are all about Eve and Mira in this book. Eve's admission to how much Mira means to her. When Eve gets into the room and sees Mira in the cage, and their interaction until she drops Dave.
    
        
      I agree with your perspective, Dawn. It all came front and center here. I'm not even sure Eve knew before that moment the depths of her feelings for Mira.
    
  
  
  
        
      Definitely agree & about Eve & Mira. This was a defining moment/scene/event in their relationship. Like that we knew what Eve was thinking as she tried to keep Mira safe by pretending she was nothing more than a Dr. to her.
    
  
  
  
      From MAKED IN DESTH Dr. Mira has thought of Eve as an adopted daughter. Though at the time Eve didn't realize that Dr. Mira was the MOTHER she never had. As each book has progressed, she begins to realize how important Dr. Mira is to her.
    
      And Mira trying to keep it on a professional level as well. Neither of them really wanting him to know how much they mean to each other. I just think it was Eve's aha moment when he shows her he has Mira.
    
      Just finished the book and I wanted to say the way Eve cares for Mira is one of my favorite scenes. “He’ll know you’re here. That’s going to have to be enough. I’ve got work to do.” Eve started for the door, hesitated, then spoke without turning around. “Your family, they matter to you.” “Yes, of course.” “You matter to me.” She walked away quickly, before Mira could get shakily to her feet.
LOVED it.
      Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "I so agree. That scene was written perfectly.Share any favorite quotes from MID."
Roarke - "Funny, you don't look like Gary Cooper".
Eve - "Who?"
      Dawn wrote: "My big momentous moments are all about Eve and Mira in this book. Eve's admission to how much Mira means to her. When Eve gets into the room and sees Mira in the cage, and their interaction until s..."Yes, Dawn, my big moment is Eve's admission about what Mira means to her. Not easy for Eve really at this point in the series, but said and felt so passionately. Loved it.
      RangerGirl wrote: "Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "I so agree. That scene was written perfectly.Share any favorite quotes from MID."
Roarke - "Funny, you don't look like Gary Cooper".
Eve - "Who?""
Agree! One of the best quotes in MID!! Love everything to do with Eve and the sheriff's badge, especially the joy that it brought her. Eve rarely feels that kind of natural, almost childlike joy.
      RangerGirl wrote: "Just finished the book and I wanted to say the way Eve cares for Mira is one of my favorite scenes. “He’ll know you’re here. That’s going to have to be enough. I’ve got work to do.” Eve started f..."
My favorite too. :)
      Finished this morning. It took me longer to read even though it is a novella but that is more because of my home renovations than anything else :0)
    
      Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "How did you like Midnight in Death, the first novella of the series? Did it work for you? Did it answer any questions you had left from Holiday in Death?"I enjoyed it in its own right. I don't think it dealt with my open issues from Holiday though.
      Jeanine wrote: "I loved that it showed us how much Mira means to Eve. ."Agreed. It takes Eve and Mira's relationship to another level as Eve admits how much Mira means to her.
      Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "How do you feel about this case & the way it evolves around an escaped killer, David Palmer, that Eve has previously put in prison? Was it sufficiently developed in this short novella?"It was well developed and I enjoyed learning about a case that Eve was involved in prior to the beginning of the series.
I do think that the ending was somewhat anti-climactic with Palmer simply falling for Eve's ruse.
        
      Glad you brought that up, Lauren. It was my next question...
Was it believable that Palmer fell for Eve's ruse/trick at the end? Did this scene work for you?
  
  
  Was it believable that Palmer fell for Eve's ruse/trick at the end? Did this scene work for you?
      Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "Glad you brought that up, Lauren. It was my next question...Was it believable that Palmer fell for Eve's ruse/trick at the end? Did this scene work for you?"
I think it was a little rushed. He may have been overly excited to get her in the cage but it was suspense and then...nothing.
      I agree scene was rushed I know its a novella but was very anticlimactic. I think this whole novella was more about Eve's finding out how much she loves and has come to depend on Mira whom she confides in a lot and Dave was just a side story.
    
      I liked this novella, even though the ending (for me) was about a page or paragraph short. The team Eve is forming is growing together and they seem to accept Roarke as part of their group now.
I liked that Roarke and Eve are more able to express their dedication to each other and their love. The leggy so-called "readhead" scene was a funny spot in their marriage of trust!
        
      I agree, Charlene. I feel like MID really seals some relationships - both to the characters and for the readers. This book feels a bit like the "glue" between Holiday & the next book, Conspiracy. For me, it's a good example of why the novellas are important to be read in order within the series.
    
  
  
  
      Thanks, Sandra. This is my first time reading the series. I'm glad I tracked down the trilogy through our library system! Now I'll have to write down what number the other two novellas are :)I don't plan to read them out of order....
      Lauren wrote: "Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "How did you like Midnight in Death, the first novella of the series? Did it work for you? Did it answer any questions you had left from Holiday in Death?"I enj..."
What didn't it answer for you from Holiday? I was glad to see Roarke reading Eve's present but not sure what other loose ends were left.
      I really liked the scene where Eve tells Roarke to hold her, "hold on here it comes" or something like that Chapter 10 I believe...Eve really starts to thaw and show her feelings for others more in this one, as others have said. Love the scene with Galahad on her rump, so like cats to pick the most uncomfortable spot to rest!
    
      Karen wrote: "What didn't it answer for you from Holiday? I was glad to see Roarke reading Eve's present but not sure what other loose ends were left. "I had questions regarding the last case. I wanted to know more about Simon and the aftermath of his attack on Peabody (which is more or less glossed over in this book).
      Lauren wrote: "Karen wrote: "What didn't it answer for you from Holiday? I was glad to see Roarke reading Eve's present but not sure what other loose ends were left. "I had questions regarding the last case. I ..."
Thanks for answering, that was one thing that did bother me too. I would have thought Eve would be more sympathetic to Peabody's feelings, especially with her own history of being sexually assaulted. It seemed more like an afterthought which wasn't right.
      For some of other reason I didn't get my notifications on this thread !!!! For me midnight was suppose to be the epilogue of holiday. But like with all things Eve/Robb ,couldn't just be straight forward and written at the end of holiday.
I found it interesting that Robb used an old case. For me I was reading it more for the personal growth of Eve with Dr Mira , and her building of new memories with Roarke, that the case itself was secondary. I knew she'd catch him so how didn't bother me. I also found it interesting that after the last case with Peabody now we have this case with Dr Mira in a similar situation. Is this building up to something?
I love how Roarke makes time for their own seasonal celebrations. Nothing new on him taking care of her but that he refused that cases take over there lives to such an extent that they don't grow and build on their own memories ,traditions and coupledom. Just a big Aahhh <3
I can see were some of you would like a more in depth interaction between Peabody and Eve but for me that wouldn't be true of Eve. At the best of times she doesn't handle personal feelings well never mind have a chat about it. And to some extent she still hasn't got a handle of her own trauma. She still has nightmares/ flashbacks. Which for me says she's still in need of some help.
Talking about Peabody. That sheriff badge? Brilliant. I even love that Summerset and Eve had this moratorium on Christmas Day.
      Michelle wrote: "For me midnight was suppose to be the epilogue of holiday."I actually didn't feel this way mainly because the connection to Holiday is very limited (only in terms of some minor character development).
Perhaps it is because I am a plot and not a character driven reader that the tension and suspense were weaker for me in this installment.
        
      Michelle wrote: "For some of other reason I didn't get my notifications on this thread !!!! 
For me midnight was suppose to be the epilogue of holiday. But like with all things Eve/Robb ,couldn't just be straight ..."
Ditto, Michelle. And I wondered where you were! Glad you made it back into this thread. You make some great points. And as most of the time, we're on the same page.
  
  
  For me midnight was suppose to be the epilogue of holiday. But like with all things Eve/Robb ,couldn't just be straight ..."
Ditto, Michelle. And I wondered where you were! Glad you made it back into this thread. You make some great points. And as most of the time, we're on the same page.
      Michelle wrote: "For some of other reason I didn't get my notifications on this thread !!!! For me midnight was suppose to be the epilogue of holiday. But like with all things Eve/Robb ,couldn't just be straight ..."
Michelle, I agree with all you've said about MID. For me, at least in this point in the series, it wouldn't have been true of Eve to have had more interaction with Peabody regarding what happened to her. You're correct. At the best of times she doesn't handle personal feelings well. She certainly cares, and she showed that but she isn't ready to do what we think would have been right or appropriate. Her growth in this area is slow and steady through the series.
        
      Eve is only beginning to get comfortable with accepting & showing personal feelings. She has them - she just doesn't yet know what to do with them. It's awkward for her - which is very true to her character at this point in the series.
    
  
  
  
      I saw Roarke and Eve working closer together and accepting the other's strengths here. Also, it was gritty and realistic that the good are often harmed. Not sure that's a LIKE, but it seems more realistic and telling it like it is in law enforcement.
IMO, even in this novella, David Palmer is well written as certifiable and a wicked man.
        
      I agree, Charlene. I think there's a lot of "punch" is this short novella. and that Robb did a fantastic job portraying Palmer's character with all his flaws to the reader in the short amount of pages she had. She also did a great job moving some character relationships forward & making characters face & own some truths. All in less than 100 pages! Wow! lol
    
  
  
  
      RangerGirl wrote: "Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "I so agree. That scene was written perfectly.Share any favorite quotes from MID."
Roarke - "Funny, you don't look like Gary Cooper".
Eve - "Who?""
LOVE this one!! Good quote! :-)
      Lauren wrote: "Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "How do you feel about this case & the way it evolves around an escaped killer, David Palmer, that Eve has previously put in prison? Was it sufficiently developed..."Lauren -- I was thinking about that this morning as well. I just finished it with 43 minutes to spare on my Edownload and even though I was glad to have finished it, I thought it was anti-climatic as well.
Usually, Eve is challenged more by her "opponent". And for the dance Palmer did throughout the book, the end came without much of a fight.
      Is it me, or was it that MID just wasn't up to par for me to find it MEMORABLE enough to remember or find FASCINATING enough to remember it.The only thing I remember is that Roarke live his gift from Eve, and that Peabody was okay.
Other than than that, this book didn't have the USUAL bite that J.D. puts into them.
        
      I guess it's just me but I thought this novella accomplished a lot - given the number of pages. I do agree that the ending came easier than normal in the full length books, but I think it served the purpose of showcasing Eve & Mira's deeper emotions & love for one another as they worked together to fool Palmer without either of them being killed. I also think it let the reader see the way Eve uses her mind to "win out" over evil - to out-think & out-maneuver Palmer is a huge deal.
    
  
  
  
        
      That was my takeaway, too. At first I thought I was going to be shortchanged by not having the full story of her original encounter with Palmer but this book covered a lot of ground. The main objective (IMO) was to highlight her deepened relationship with Mira (to Eve) and that delivered wonderfully. Plus, I liked that it also finished up the holiday.
    
  
  
  
      Sandra ~ ♥ Cross My Heart ♥ wrote: "I guess it's just me but I thought this novella accomplished a lot - given the number of pages. I do agree that the ending came easier than normal in the full length books, but I think it served th..."I thought it did also. I remembered this case, but had forgotten it was handled in a novella instead of a full length book. It surprised me when I realized that. It had a lot packed in there - Peabody's recovery and her relationship with Eve, Roarke getting ever more involved especially when the case was particularly dangerous for Eve, Mira and Eve's relationship and Mira being taken, Eve's handling of the situation (I'm always impressed by how she thinks on her feet and engages the perps and turns the situations to her advantage).
I really enjoyed Midnight in Death.
        
      I agree. You can see/feel the friends forming a circle around Eve - she is coming to realize she is not alone anymore. As always, character relationship development is a biggie with me. And, for me, it was nice to see a case wrapped up with the villain foiled in this manner. Also, as Jonetta mentioned, I enjoyed the completion of the holiday part of things also. This novella is a nice bridge between Holiday & Conspiracy.
    
  
  
  
      Jonetta wrote: "That was my takeaway, too. At first I thought I was going to be shortchanged by not having the full story of her original encounter with Palmer but this book covered a lot of ground. The main objec..."I simply adore Eve's relationship with Mira in every book!
      Jonetta wrote: "That was my takeaway, too. At first I thought I was going to be shortchanged by not having the full story of her original encounter with Palmer but this book covered a lot of ground. The main objec..."Jonetta and Sandra, I agree with both of you. I think a lot was accomplished in this novella, and for the reasons you both have stated. I especially like that Mira, as a character, won't be satisfied to simply be a colleague that Eve has worked closely with for over a decade. It's not enough for either of them that they care about one another on that co-worker level only.
        
      Well said, Jeanine. I agree that during that "cage" scene both Eve & Mira silently acknowledged that they are more than simply co-workers. Their silent communication made it a powerful scene.
    
  
  
  
      I'm so glad you guys recommended reading the novellas in this series. I quit reading novellas/short stories in series because they're almost always disappointing due to lack of character development. But this one was very satisfying. Not only did we get what I think of as a full story (a case with a bad guy to catch), there were a lot of great moments with the characters - Eve's admission of her love for Dr. Mira, Peabody giving Eve an old sheriff's badge for Christmas (very thoughtful), and Roarke & Eve's determination to start their own holiday traditions like a "normal" family.
        
      Belles wrote: "I'm so glad you guys recommended reading the novellas in this series. I quit reading novellas/short stories in series because they're almost always disappointing due to lack of character developmen..."
Glad you read it, Belles! I loved this one too (especially the sheriff's badge! lol) These novellas are worth it - they do continue character development and are worth the time.
  
  
  Glad you read it, Belles! I loved this one too (especially the sheriff's badge! lol) These novellas are worth it - they do continue character development and are worth the time.
      I remember when I first discovered the novellas existed. It was like puzzle pieces had been missing and there they were!
    




