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I feel like I should dig out a few classics to get in this year but I may not try too hard. I did enjoy my 3 months of doing it last year. This year is turning into the "OH I read that 20 years ago! I should re-read that." And hopefully finish Wheel of Time & Malazan. LOL

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Haha, I was trying to explain that "trick" back then, when we were started Super Powereds, it doesn't seem as if I was doing a good job 😅

I've watched it too, but long ago and couldn't believe how good it was. I've read the book too, but wasn't nearly as good.

Sir Anni wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "I just learned this money saving trick for audible audiobooks, if you have Kindle Unlimited and an Audible subscription... and it feels like cheating...
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Totally missed it... I remember the talk about Impossible Times & something else being on KUR&L...
I figure, I can buy enough discount audiobooks over the next 18 months, for the KU subscription to pay for itself, now (not even counting the books I read for "free" with KU Read & Listen... already read 13+ Melissa F. Olson books, 6 Odyssey One books, The Palace Job, and maybe a couple others)
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Totally missed it... I remember the talk about Impossible Times & something else being on KUR&L...
I figure, I can buy enough discount audiobooks over the next 18 months, for the KU subscription to pay for itself, now (not even counting the books I read for "free" with KU Read & Listen... already read 13+ Melissa F. Olson books, 6 Odyssey One books, The Palace Job, and maybe a couple others)

However, I think the worse is yet to come. Fortunately, I can work from home and minimize exposure for my wife and myself.

I'm not so relaxed anymore. I've just read that all events in our libraries are cancelled. Our books are extended until 18th April. I've got a feeling that the libraries will eventually close too.
I work at the reception desk of a mental hospital and now there taking precautions, mostly for the patients: washing and disinfecting hands, coughing in tissues...If we've got fever, coughing and short of breath we need immediately to go home. It's now so fat that we don't need to go to the doctor, just give him a call, say you're sick and you get sick leave for 7 days. We've got now 600 sick people an 5 deaths. People are starting hamstering food also, but that's not necesary.
I work in bulk retail, like many know, and the hoarding and shortages are getting pretty crazy... we’ve had to start rationing water/paper towel/toilet paper purchases per customer to avoid running out too fast each day... we get a full trailer each night, basically... average daily sales have doubled... these are Christmas numbers...
Margret wrote: "How’s everyone holding up with the pandemic?"
I'm going back to work on Monday after two and a half weeks of staying at home. Hopefully, school won't be canceled again, but we are getting new updates all the time depending on how close the outbreaks are.
How's the situation where you are?
I'm going back to work on Monday after two and a half weeks of staying at home. Hopefully, school won't be canceled again, but we are getting new updates all the time depending on how close the outbreaks are.
How's the situation where you are?

Foodshopping has gone INSANE. I thought I was being smart Wednesday putting in an online to-go order for last night and the store was mobbed, they were an hour and a half or more behind in fulfilling online orders. Ended up giving me all my non-perishables free. Target, for some strange reason, was dead (right across the street and had no problem there. Went back today and they gave me the rest of my groceries. They were so apologetic they gave me about $220 in grocers for $33 (I had a $40 credit from them messing up my order last week/packing issue. So its insane, but I guess I can't complain too much!
I did have a major fantasy baseball industry event scheduled for Manhattan this weekend where we auction-draft our teams and it is simulcast on Sirius XM. They canceled the event and we're drafting online instead. Kinda wish they'd push the whole thing back till they know when the baseball season is going to start. So i have to somehow grab two computers from home and figure out how I'm going to work it with the kids all in the house (might ship them to the inlaws for a second ay in a row.

I personally haven't felt much of an impact on my life since I'm currently writing my thesis, so I'm at home most of the time anyway.
What I don't understand is people making thoughtless decisions out of panic, like stealing disinfectant and face masks in hospitals. That's where this stuff is actually needed and stealing it is the worst, selfish thing you can do! Not having tons of disinfectant at home is very likely not going to kill you (since just washing your hands properly is an option, too), but it might kill the actually sick people in the hospital.
A friend of my family is a doctor in our local hospital and he told us last week that they are so short on face masks that every team of doctors and nurses gets one mask at the beginning of each shift and then they have to share. Crazy, right? Even if there was no Corona, I would not want to use a mask that 3 colleagues already had over their noses...
And even with this new rule, they only have masks left for 3-4 weeks and apparently there's a shortage of new masks, too, because of all the hoarding, so the prices have gone up like crazy.
Bea wrote: "Schools will be closing on Monday here, too.
I personally haven't felt much of an impact on my life since I'm currently writing my thesis, so I'm at home most of the time anyway.
What I don't und..."
Masks are so hard to get here too. The government has regulated a two mask per week limit where you have to show ID and the days you can purchase depend on the last number of your birth year.
I personally haven't felt much of an impact on my life since I'm currently writing my thesis, so I'm at home most of the time anyway.
What I don't und..."
Masks are so hard to get here too. The government has regulated a two mask per week limit where you have to show ID and the days you can purchase depend on the last number of your birth year.

I personally haven't felt much of an impact on my life since I'm currently writing my thesis, so I'm at home most of the time anyway.
What I don't und..."
Bloody mental. Worrying number of people that have no common sense and can't think outside of looking after themselves.
It's been mostly ok here in the UK, though we've had the same craziness regarding loo roll, hand sanitizer and hand soap being sold out. Now, also food like pasta and rice is going fast.
Businesses and schools are still open but that might change soon, the cases are expected to peak in the next two weeks...

Our schools and universities were ordered to close down for two weeks but then an announcement came just recently (in the middle of the second week) that they're to be closed off till May! It's insane. Now the institutes have to take online classes, while ours doesn't even have a software...I had a presentation due today, but don't know about that anymore until they confirm how the online classes will commence
Then there's the work thing. I applied for an internship but the boss says most business activities have paused so now we don't even know when they'll get us new employees on board

My cousins had tickets for a sporting event today but they banned crowds yesterday so the matches would go on without any live audience. I don't know if there's been crazy food shopping here but people have been buying sanitizers and would WANT to buy masks but there are none to be seen lol. There's been a shortage
The province I live, Alberta has 23 confirmed all travel related and we are taking a very aggressive approach cancelling all public events etc. I’m hoping it’ll flatten the curve of illnesses so as not to overwhelm the hospitals like Italy is experiencing. We are still considered low risk
My biggest concern is that I am a respiratory therapist in ICU 😬 I’m frontline staff and while this illness seems to (thank god) spare kids I’m still worried about contracting and spreading it at work.
I also have a severe anxiety disorder with ocd like symptoms as many of you know. I had been doing very well and even tried to wean off meds a few weeks ago but with the current state of affairs it did not work out whatsoever. Things have been very tenuous lately for me but trying my best to limit my input and keep up healthy coping habits
My biggest concern is that I am a respiratory therapist in ICU 😬 I’m frontline staff and while this illness seems to (thank god) spare kids I’m still worried about contracting and spreading it at work.
I also have a severe anxiety disorder with ocd like symptoms as many of you know. I had been doing very well and even tried to wean off meds a few weeks ago but with the current state of affairs it did not work out whatsoever. Things have been very tenuous lately for me but trying my best to limit my input and keep up healthy coping habits

I can totally see how this mass panic could be very negative for existing anxiety issues. I hope you manage to keep up your healthy coping habits, Margret. Don't be too hard on yourself about weaning off your meds, there's plenty time once this blows over. We're all here for you if you need support or just to chat. :) ❤️

Ireland has closed schools and Scotland banned gatherings of 500 people or more, but nothing in England yet. Lots of sporting events and concerts cancelled though.
I work for a pharmaceutical wholesaler so work has been crazy this last week. We've sold a months worth of drugs in two weeks and having trouble replacing stock, especially ibuprofen and paracetamol.
We're still in the office, taking extra precautions with cleaning and sanitising, and we've stopped visitors coming to the building. We can work from home with laptops if need be so should be OK. As part of the NHS supply chain our warehouse and delivery drivers won't have a choice but to keep working though.
I think it sounds like it's going to start spreading quicker, and a lot of people will get it and it'll just be like a bad cold/flu. As long as we stay away from more vulnerable people should be OK in the end. I hope everyone is OK and takes care.
Foodshopping is in it's own spiral... 1st wave of hoarders doomsday stocking up on TP/Sanitizer/etc, has left the shelves bare for people who are just trying to do regular shopping... then it comes back in, and regular shoppers feel the need to stockpile, since they don't trust the hoarders to not cause them problems NEXT time...
I live in the MIdwest USA, and most of my coworkers seem to buy into the narrative that the coronavirus is blown out of proportion and no big deal... I hope they're right, but if they're not, the prospects are scary, from everything I read...
People are also getting dangerous... apparently someone was so desperate for water at a Sam's Club in Georgia, they tried to take from another customer's cart... the customer than grabbed a bottle of wine and attacked the thief... cops were called...
There was a similar mentality at work, today, when a paper truck showed up around noon... the entire trailer sold in 90 minutes... that's 26 pallets or so, paper towel pallets hold 32x12 packs, toiler paper pallets hold 48x45 packs... it was a mix of both...
Only silver lining, is that overtime is blanket approved...
I live in the MIdwest USA, and most of my coworkers seem to buy into the narrative that the coronavirus is blown out of proportion and no big deal... I hope they're right, but if they're not, the prospects are scary, from everything I read...
People are also getting dangerous... apparently someone was so desperate for water at a Sam's Club in Georgia, they tried to take from another customer's cart... the customer than grabbed a bottle of wine and attacked the thief... cops were called...
There was a similar mentality at work, today, when a paper truck showed up around noon... the entire trailer sold in 90 minutes... that's 26 pallets or so, paper towel pallets hold 32x12 packs, toiler paper pallets hold 48x45 packs... it was a mix of both...
Only silver lining, is that overtime is blanket approved...
Siobhan wrote: "I'm in the UK too, so what Beena said! So far we seem to have that British approach of going on as normal whilst everyone else is closing schools!
Ireland has closed schools and Scotland banned g..."
From the sound of it, the whole world might have coronavirus by June, and then you'll start building antibodies (if you're not part of the 2% death toll)... 2% seems small, but 2% of 7 billion is still 140 million... Good thing we keep hearing about more and more progress on treatments...
Ireland has closed schools and Scotland banned g..."
From the sound of it, the whole world might have coronavirus by June, and then you'll start building antibodies (if you're not part of the 2% death toll)... 2% seems small, but 2% of 7 billion is still 140 million... Good thing we keep hearing about more and more progress on treatments...

This ^^
You just summed it up in one. It creates panic, and now we all feel like we need to stock up because things won't be readily available.

Lmao, so British!
Foodshopping is in it's own spiral... 1st wave of hoarders doomsday stocking up on TP/Sanitizer/etc, has left the shelves bare for people who are just trying to do regular shopping... then it comes back in, and regular shoppers feel the need to stockpile, since they don't trust the hoarders to not cause them problems NEXT time...
People are so stupid... I've seen a few posts on facebook of elderly that don't have big budgets and are just trying to do their weekly shop, but can't get certain things :( It's not like they have unlimited energy to go running around shops, let alone a strong immune system...
People are also getting dangerous... apparently someone was so desperate for water at a Sam's Club in Georgia, they tried to take from another customer's cart... the customer than grabbed a bottle of wine and attacked the thief... cops were called...
Terrifying to see how fast any form of civilisation goes...

Although I think everyone should take sensible precautions (hand-washing, etc.), I do think the media is whipping up hysteria about it. Headlines like '11 people have now died!' should be balanced with '60,000 people have previously contracted this virus and recovered.'
Shaitarn wrote: "I thought the town where I live was pretty much unaffected until I went to do my weekly shop a few days ago and saw the shelves mostly stripped of toilet rolls (I genuinely needed toilet rolls; I o..."
The problem is how political everything is these days... the people in power in many places are trying to downplay fears, and the people who want their jobs next election are playing it up...
The downplaying works for some people, and makes others more paranoid, ready to hear the fearmongering (or vice versa)... yet another spiral...
The problem is how political everything is these days... the people in power in many places are trying to downplay fears, and the people who want their jobs next election are playing it up...
The downplaying works for some people, and makes others more paranoid, ready to hear the fearmongering (or vice versa)... yet another spiral...
If it were influenza people wouldn’t even care 😂 I worked during H1N1 pandemic and literally nothing closed down. We were packed to the brim with critically ill patients, our icu actually won a critical care award for our survival rates and management of it so I feel like we will know what to do as it’s very similar to influenza but the volume is the big concern

You're definitely all set then! Yeah so many people die of seasonal flu every year and noone bats an eyelid.

Exactly, and the newspapers are conveniently saying that 11 people died 'after' contracting coronavirus, they didn't die 'of' it - unfortunately these people were already seriously unwell.

Basically what Iain said. The panic in the States is ridiculous. I personally wasn't too concerned until I had a hard time buying basic necessities this week. It's starting to feel like living in a bad scifi movie.

I made that point to a few other people when I started doing research on corona and flu comparisons. In a lot of ways flu is worse for those immune compromised, esp if it turns into pneumonia. But that's not news!

Agreed. 'XX people now dead!' sells papers; 'Not as bad as normal flu!' doesn't.
Narilka wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Foodshopping is in it's own spiral... 1st wave of hoarders doomsday stocking up on TP/Sanitizer/etc, has left the shelves bare for people who are just trying to do regular sho..."
It all boils down to the state of the world, these days... less people feel like they can 100% ignore the news... so more people hear the scary things... and being unused to it, they react... rashly...
It all boils down to the state of the world, these days... less people feel like they can 100% ignore the news... so more people hear the scary things... and being unused to it, they react... rashly...
Shaitarn wrote: "Narilka wrote: "Margret wrote: "If it were influenza people wouldn’t even care 😂 I worked during H1N1 pandemic and literally nothing closed down. We were packed to the brim with critically ill pati..."
I read The Palace Job this week, and it was pretty big on sensational media... but it was funny, because the competing news outlets were run by bickering dragons and manticores (I think... it was another fantasy creature, anyway)...
I read The Palace Job this week, and it was pretty big on sensational media... but it was funny, because the competing news outlets were run by bickering dragons and manticores (I think... it was another fantasy creature, anyway)...


On a humourous note one news outlet here ran a tongue in cheek segment on leaf variety's that are safe to use as toilet paper replacements e.g. wild tobacco leaf = good, stinging nettle = bad! Very educational lol :-)
Sometimes a little bit of levity provides some much needed laughter :-)

I live in Jakarta. I think our government hasn't handled the virus as seriously as it should have, because there has been a lack of testing and transparancy with respect to where the infected areas are. I think testing is really important here, because the symptoms are very very similar to common flu. Therefore, people don't exactly know if they're coughing and have a fever if they have contracted something serious or just a common cold. This lack of testing and uncertainty have led to some people doing stupid stuff like panic buying at the grocery stores on the day when the president first announced the first case in Indonesia about a couple of weeks ago.
Unfortunately, testing procedures are not widely known in my country. I've read and watched some news that the government would only provide testing if the patient has shown symptoms of pneumonia, despite other lesser symptoms present. I think that's just too late. That means days when the virus could have spread to a lot of different people if the patient wasn't informed and tested properly.
Because of the lack of more aggressive testing, the number of confirmed cases has increased significantly the past few days. There was "only" around 20ish confirmed cases in the first week (1st case confirmed on March 2), but it has grown to 34-69-96 just in the past three days (3 deaths, 8 recovered). The exponential growth is expected, when one looks at the data from other countries. But, the key question right now is how to flatten the curve. The government needs serious actions and more aggressive testings to be implemented if they want the people to remain relatively calm.
I think this is a serious issue. I think we shouldn't think that it's no big deal. It's a pretty big deal that made China closed off an entire city. And I think it's definitely more serious than just a common cold. Statistics have indicated that the mortality rate is about 3-4%, which is much much higher than common cold. And not just the mortality rate, but the infection rate is also higher than common cold. But, of course, it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. But it is a pretty serious matter that requires serious reaction from everybody.
As for me personally, I dunno if I can say my life hasn't been affected. Unfortunately, a staff of mine just got back from a country that has confirmed Covid-19 cases, and she got a fever about a week after she got back. Then, she got better, but got another fever a few days ago. Her manager, who has had contacts with her came to my office for a meeting a few days ago, but did not inform me of my staff's condition until after the day of the meeting. Although, my manager didn't look sick at all. But, because we don't know of my staff's status (whether she had been tested or diagnosed properly or not), we're erring on the side of caution here. So, currently, just to be on the safe side, I'm not exactly self-quarantining myself, but I try not to go out and I wear mask as a precaution. Hopefully, it's just a common cold and nothing worse.
But, I do tell my staff the following guidelines wrt any sickness right now:
1. Check your temperature everyday, if you're feeling sick, coughing, have a fever, please do take the day off.
2. If you're still sick the day after, go to a doctor for a check up, then stay at home for 2 weeks.
3. Wash your hands often. We bought a bottle of hand sanitizer for the office. And the office building also provides hand sanitizers at the lobby foyer.
On a brighter note, at least I'm getting my reading done, always a plus in my book lol.

Personally, the only thing worrying me is the hiatus of some movies due to the virus. If this is also the case for tv shows, then I HATE this virus.
An aquintance showed me an ap of the global map of corona virus with the number of infected ppl. And while everywhere its in hundreds and thoudsands... drumroll... in russia it's 17. Ppl are saying the government pressures everyone into reporting lower numbers than there are in reality.
The funny thing about influenza/swine flu/H1N1 is people refuse to get the vaccine and say it is no big deal. I’ve had plenty of young healthy people I’ve taken care of die from complications of it. If the public took the flu seriously we would have a huge reduction in critical cases. Maybe we could handle the corona virus because we wouldn’t be already full of influenza patients

Same here with us, on your last point. We have it under 20 here too but I've heard rumours that it's in the hundreds and the government is hiding the actual numbers
Coronavirus shopping is getting crazier by the day... I went into work this morning, and half the freezer/cooler was just empty... I had 5-6 pallets to work, mostly from 9am to noon, and things were running out again shortly after stocking... we got a full pallet of 150x36 eggs, and they all sold just before I left... the same with all the 18 packs on the shelf... No milk until Monday delivery, etc etc etc...
People are at least getting more used to the shortages, and just dealing with what's available... I was expecting to be stopped and asked to grab specific things (slowing down the stocking), but that didn't really happy... people were just happy to see items appear on the shelves as they walked by...
Management has had to start rationing everything... people are just coming in and buying 10x cooked rotisserie chickens or 10x10lbs ground beef... now there's a limit of 2 on most cold/Fresh food items, baby supplies, cleaning supplies, paper products, water, etc...
Only thing that I think curbed the flow, today, was this bout of cold weather... it was freezing rain this morning, and chilly all day, with talks of snow...
People are at least getting more used to the shortages, and just dealing with what's available... I was expecting to be stopped and asked to grab specific things (slowing down the stocking), but that didn't really happy... people were just happy to see items appear on the shelves as they walked by...
Management has had to start rationing everything... people are just coming in and buying 10x cooked rotisserie chickens or 10x10lbs ground beef... now there's a limit of 2 on most cold/Fresh food items, baby supplies, cleaning supplies, paper products, water, etc...
Only thing that I think curbed the flow, today, was this bout of cold weather... it was freezing rain this morning, and chilly all day, with talks of snow...
Bea wrote: "Now our choir rehearsals have been cancelled, too..."
I think schools just got cancelled in Illinois...
I think schools just got cancelled in Illinois...

I work in Belgium, I do research there in health-psychology on healthy people, but they've cancelled those research activities due to the close-contact nature of that type of research (you have to touch the participants to put on electrodes and such). So, since I can do all my other work at home, it basically means I'm staying at home for 2 or 3 weeks, together with my bf, hoping I won't bash my bf's brains out by the end of it haha.

Schools like elementary and kindergarden are still closed untill Eastern holidays, but they give day care for people who work in health care, have problem to find someone to take care of their kids...So, my son of 7 years is going to school, because I work in a hospital.
Restaurants and bars are closed for 3 weeks, supermarkets, pharmacists and banks are open every day and other shops only in the week. Libraries are open only in the week.
Right now in the hospital where I work, there's complete chaos, because one of the department staf has corona and she's very sick. So, we had to call all the patients of the departments where the patients get their day therapy or other day threatements to cancel appointments.
I'm not easily scared, but now...I think it's just the beginning of it.
There are now 2 confirmed cases of Coronavirus in my town... but the hysteria of late last week has died down a bit, as people's bank accounts dwindle, and the supply of hoardable items disappears...
We had no water or paper products today, since we didn't get any deliveries last night... the closers also did my job for me, a bit, since the shelves were empty when the freezer/cooler delivery happened last night before the store closed...
We had no water or paper products today, since we didn't get any deliveries last night... the closers also did my job for me, a bit, since the shelves were empty when the freezer/cooler delivery happened last night before the store closed...
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