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It’s just so easy to get confused as to which ‘girl in love with biker’ thread you have a new suggestion for. But easier to find ‘girl in love with biker, neighbours in childhood and surprise pregnancy’.
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😣 mine are probably some of the ones that bug you! Lol, sorry."
I guess I should learn to get used as that is the trend mods appear to prefer in titles 🙂"
There are two reasons why I like people to pack as much detail as they can into headers -
1. Duplicate threads are a big and time-consuming issue - and when I'm checking to see if new posts are duplicates, the search result is a list of headers. If I can instantly see by looking at a person's 10 different threads exactly what the book is about, it's a huge time-saver in tracking down duplicates.
2. The search function enables searches of all content in the group, and also header content only. If you have a lot of detail in your header, searches can be done much more efficiently by limiting them to topic headers.
Lobstergirl wrote: "The "Help!" and "Looking for a book" phrases often will get deleted by a mod, if we still have the will to live after reading through all the headers with no plot details."LOL
I remember being so careful in my first post: to have enough information in the header to be recognizable, but not so much that people would TLDR it.
I don't like overlong headers either. Brief and descriptive is the ideal.
The rockabilly werewolf from Mars wrote: "I'm curious, which ones are the disturbing ones (I occasionally bump horror-related threads, so if there are any particular ones you find too disturbing, I'll bump them less often)."Here's a recent classic:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Yeah. They'll let anyone on Goodreads, it seems. No shame.
OH WHAT THE FRAK?!Someone got lost on their way to Hentai Foundry...
I agree that’s pretty full on for GR’s, and am so glad I missed it... but... G has a point. Romance doesn’t need to be reciprocated in any way. Murderers can see the romance in their attacks. Stalkers can see romance with a person they may never have meet or had a conversation with. Pedophiles and pedergasts (geez, I just googled that for spelling and was squinting at the screen in case something horrific showed up. Thankfully it was just dictionary, but I clicked out so fast, I’m still not sure I spelt in right!) see romance in the manipulation of a child. Abusers see romance in ‘correcting’ their partners (not talking bdsm relationship) or at least in the apologies and forgiveness that’s demanded between attacks.
The scariest thing I’ve ever heard was on tv - SVU maybe? At the end, the pedophile said to the detective the 50 years ago homosexuality was illegal too, so it was just a matter of time before the world accepted child abuse as acceptable. I was absolutely chilled to hear that sentence, and in a way, it’s based in truth. While I/we/gen pop will NEVER accept a relationship as ok that has such a power differential and gives the child (or animal IMO) no option but to work with what they are taught, taboo is only taboo until it’s not. Having a conversation with a friend from a different culture can be eye opening as to what’s normal.
I’ve never come across it in a book, but there’s a doco out there covering a mans romantic relationship with a captive dolphin in one of the parks. Can’t remember where (America?) and think the events were in the 70’s, but he’s come out in the last decade or so (once he knew he wouldn’t be charged) and described the ‘loving relationship he had with the dolphin who wanted him too’. I only saw some snippets, but he was convinced it was a mutual loving relationship... even tho he was sneaking back into the park after hours to ‘date’.
Nope. Abuse or creepiness is never romantic.
Not to you or me, but to the perps... their wires are crossed and make it so. It’s interesting to see how people get to different opinions and ideas. There are some things that I CAN (if it’s written right) love in a book that I would NEVER accept irl... like NEVER EVER EVER NEVER, not even close NEVER. And probably some things that I’d be fine with irl... but the way it’s written makes it wrong or unacceptable in that book. It would be boring if every character was held to our standards. No murders, no ‘wrong’ hair cuts or dress codes, no jobs we wouldn’t take, no opinions we wouldn’t agree with, no lifestyles that wouldn’t suit us. No relationships we wouldn’t accept ourselves. Boring. Safe, sane, legal & consenting. I don’t much care what people do as long as it’s got that covered, and fiction is fairly open for me. I’m unlikely to read a book about a loud and proud pedophile, but would probably read one about bringing one down and to some extent, without being graphic, I would probably like to see some of their POV, and why they think they’re in the right. But age, experience, language barriers, even culture and more can all make one or more of those points wobbly or broken. You can’t bring in a mail order bride (not that I’m a fan of it anyway) and tell her ‘this is how it will be’ and have her arrive to a completely different situation. You can’t ‘teach’ a child ‘this is normal’. You can’t pressure and manipulate partners into things they don’t want to do, but you can explore things as long as both parties freely agree and if one says wait or stop, that’s what happens. Kids and animals CAN NOT CONSENT... that’s a hardline imo. They simply can’t, even if they’ve been abused to consider it ok.
How easy is it for an older partner to say to a younger one (19/20 to 30/40 or any)... I thought you were more mature than that, or are you really this young? All of a sudden, whatever upset or worried the younger partner is invalid and pursuing it just reenforces what we all hate to admit at any point, especially young, you don’t know everything and experience can make you see a situation completely differently. How many times have you looked back at a relationship and thought, ‘wtf, how did I not see that?!?’ Even healthy ones can look different from a decade later.
Off topic kind of, but I’m just waiting for someone to take the US (and other) governments to trial over child sex trafficking. There are (to my knowledge) still some states and countries that will force a pregnant child to marry their abuser, making the new child ‘legitimate’ (what a f’ing joke) and giving the abuser full and total control over their new sex slave, who is now classified as wife instead of child victim. They have no where to go, no options for a better life, because the system that should have protected them has instead trafficked them to make the paperwork look better.
To be fair tho... I am a ‘victim’ of my year 5 teacher telling us when we were writing stories, ‘everyone has a side, you need to make sure you’re not ignoring the other characters opinions’. I’ve always been stuck thinking about the other people sides. Don’t always agree with them or see how they could be, but I know they have them and try and take them into account when needed.
I consider all perspectives too, which sometimes drives me nuts. But the point is, the one lusting after children or animals may think it's romantic, but he is wrong.
Was the topic above deleted? What a shame! I had just learned the Portuguese for "cunt."
That ones harder. Some of them are ‘regency’, ‘elizabethan’ or ‘Georgian’ etc... but not only do a lot of them not point that out specifically, but you might not remember that part of the detail. I figure odds are you either don’t read historical type books, so don’t need to bother looking, or you do read them and the rest of the header should give you a better idea of if it’s in your wheel house.
Of course, that assumes the op HAS added further details in the header rather than just ‘historical romance’ and left it at that.
Pet peeve, I wish people would stop putting "YA" in their post titles when the book in question is clearly not YA.So many times I click on a thread only to find out it's some sort of adult erotic romance and the "boy" or "girl" mentioned are in their 20s or even older.
Rainbowheart wrote: "So many times I click on a thread only to find out it's some sort of adult erotic romance and the "boy" or "girl" mentioned are in their 20s or even older."I hate when a thread describes the protagonist as a "young girl" and she turns out to be in her twenties. I'd prefer "woman," and I'm resigned to "girl" (sigh), but what's wrong with "young woman"? Or, if you must, just "girl"?
How is someone in their twenties ever a "young" girl? She's a pretty old girl in my mind.
OK, I realize it's not thread title issue. Rant over.
Thank you. Yes! Also, it does make the post clearer.
I agree with SamSpayedPI - we wouldn't describe a male of the same age as a "young boy", or even as a "boy".
Rosa wrote: "I might describe him as a boy."Heh. Depends on his maturity level. :)
But, back to topic: Some YA is written about adults, and doesn't include (too) adult of situations/experiences. Lower vocabulary, lower intricacy, moral boundaries can all be indicators of YA. Purported age of characters is not the sole indicator of whether something is appropriate for YA.
Haha, that's a good one.Although there is some pretty messed-up YA out there (not sure it's technically YA) in the form of authors like V.C. Andrews.
But yeah, I hope never to click on another "Looking for YA romance" thread and see the OP talk about some sort of weird motorcycle BDSM club erotica with harems of women getting sexually tortured.
Like, dude, I wouldn't have clicked if I knew that's what it was going to be about!!!
Does anyone know what the character limit on thread titles/headers is? And if so, can we post it in the Group Rules?It seems pretty important; we keep telling people to put in more details, and then when they do they get a weird error message (not related to number of characters in title).
If we can post "Threads with vague headers will be closed. However, headers may not exceed X characters," people would have a sort of a goal to shoot for.
SamSpayedPI wrote: "Does anyone know what the character limit on thread titles/headers is?..."I just tried very long title and I am seeing: "Title is too long (maximum is 256 characters)" which seems right, recent loooong title I found is 255 characters.
Oh good! It used to give some squirrelly error message that didn't really reveal what you did wrong.
What can I do to follow the rules when I'm not sure about the genre of the book I'm looking for? :c
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Thanks for asking, Ro. In the header/ topic title (top of the page), do your best to guess & describe your book's genre. You can use "?" when you're uncertain. Just a few examples of "uncertain" genres:
- Adult Fantasy? some romance.
- YA Realistic Fiction? coming of age, angsty.
- Children or Middle Grade novel, funny.
- Adult Historical (maybe Medieval) novel.
- Adult Mystery/ Crime/ Thriller.
- etc.
Later, we can edit the genre in your header and add a more precise description as we learn more about your book.
Kris wrote: "Ro wrote: "What can I do to follow the rules when I'm not sure about the genre of the book I'm looking for? :c"Thanks for asking, Ro. In the header/ topic title (top of the page), do your best to..."
Thanks, I already posted the description :)
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😣 mine are probably some of the ones that bug you! Lol, sorry."
I guess I should learn to get used as that is the trend mods appear to prefer in titles 🙂