Authors with Dates

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Looking for a project?

Public domain authors have been imported with dates included with their names. We've probably all been seeing them. If you're interested, you could just put any public domain date in the search box, tick the author radio button, and come up with a list.

Example: 1823
Note there are 23 pages of results!

Some research may be required. Yesterday I saw "French Alice 1850 - 1934" who I suspected was really Alice French. But that turned up the fact that she published under the pseudonym Octave Thanet.

Still, I might always think of this as my French Alice project.

[Emy]

Good luck! I'm still working through all the BnF/Hachette books which were imported with reversed name order...

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Looking for a project?"

We should have a folder for these.

Et voila.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Oh, excellent idea, Rivka! Thanks for moving this.

[Renske]

And with this kind of authors it is often extra useful to check the similar names function. I did several authors and found for each at least 4/5 extra profiles.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

And it is often the case with those similar names to find which is the correct publishing name.

[Koenraad]

And they can be quite confusing sometimes.
E.g.: John F B 1853 Stevens stands for John F. Stevens, born in 1853 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fr...), not for John F.B. Stevens
- and, similar to this: John J D 1899 Lalor stands for John J. Lalor, died in 1899 (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jo...), not for John J.D. Lalor .
And then - sigh - there is those similar to Thomas B 1785 Woolnoth (Thomas Woolnoth, born in 1785 - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...) and John D 1722 Essay on the Diff Quincy (John Quincy, died in 1722 - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Qu...).

The profiles mentioned here belong to authors that can be found in Wikipedia, but that's not the case for the majority of them...

[Hannah]

I worked on 1914 on Friday for two hours. I found duplicate listings for Walter Scott, Andrew Lang, and other well-known authors as well as some I'd never heard of and had to search to find the correct listing for. Usually the dates in the author field are for birth or death dates, but I couldn't figure out how Walter Scott popped up!

[Hannah]

Oh...and using Google to look at cover images did help me figure out some of what the authors originally published as. Sometimes Project Gutenburg has cover images but many of their author names are not as published, so I have to be careful going there.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Hannah wrote: "I worked on 1914 on Friday for two hours. I found duplicate listings for Walter Scott, Andrew Lang, and other well-known authors as well as some I'd never heard of and had to search to find the cor..."

I wonder if it was a different Walter Scott!

Thanks for spending some time on this. It's one of those projects that is a time sink if you let it.

[Hannah]

Some days at the office I have no projects to do and a great fast desktop computer. This is one of the projects I used it for!! And no, the listing was "Sir Walter Scott 1914" and the title was a well-known one. Weird.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Looks like a number of his works were republished in 1914 and 1920. Maybe those dates were significant relative to copyright expiring?

[Redangel333]

As this project was mentioned in another thread I worked on 1823 and I think it is down to only a few ones which are not my cup of tea as they seem to involve a closer look or more research. Is there any preferred date to work on next? or is it just randomly picking numbers?

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Redangel333 wrote: "As this project was mentioned in another thread I worked on 1823 and I think it is down to only a few ones which are not my cup of tea as they seem to involve a closer look or more research. Is the..."

Thanks for doing those! This project is wide open. Feel free to choose a date and go with it!

[Redangel333]

Just for information I chose 1866 and will be doing one or two authors once in a while.
I will skip organizations like gouvenors and university and states as they are not my cup of tea and will only take care of persons names.

[Redangel333]

Maybe someone from this thread who worked on similar problems could be of help. I stumbled across a few books where I am lost. I do not want to just delete the numbers, as we already identified that sometimes the letters before or after do have a meaning like born or the names are in mixed order.
The books are hebrew I guess and these are the books that I am unable to solve:
Maazor Vitri
Maberet Menaem; 01

There is another one which would probably need someone speaking greece I guess as I am not sure if that is a real author or publisher 200 συγγραφείς

[Redangel333]

Le Livre de L'Impot Foncier:
I am struggeling with arabic authors as I have no experience with them If someone could help with this book it would be great.

[Redangel333]

Struggeling with Harvard University Class Books. I see a lot of them and I am not sure what to do with them. Examples below:
Harvard University Class of 1854
Harvard University Class of 1880
Harvard University Class of 1866

Do they need to be combined with
Harvard University Press ?

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

No, don't merge those. They may be fine as they are.

[Redangel333]

I leave them as they are then. That makes two forms of names with numbers in them that I will leave out, as I already found that there are a lot of war diaries, and that was adressed in another thread already: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Le Livre de L'Impot Foncier:
I am struggeling with arabic authors as I have no experience with them If someone could help with this book it would be great."

solved
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

[Redangel333]

Ismail wrote: "Redangel333 wrote: "Le Livre de L'Impot Foncier:
I am struggeling with arabic authors as I have no experience with them If someone could help with this book it would be great."

sol..."

Thanks a lot!

[Ismail]

You are welcome
If there are any other issues with Arabic authors I'll do my best to help

[Redangel333]

Not sure if all of these names are arabic as well, I could not solve them, some might require some research:
1003-1088 Nir-I Khusraw
Isml Ibn Ammd D 1003? Jawhar
969-1008 Badi Al-Zaman Al-Hamadhani969-1008 Rasil Bad Al-Zamn Al-Hamadhn
944 Or 5-1030 Mu'ayyad Billah Ahmad Ibn
King of Seville 1039-1095 Mutamid
Kitb Al-Maqmt Al-Adabyah
Kitb Ghar'ib Al-Gharb
1054-1122 Hariri

additionally there is another Hebrew name to solve, hope someone could take this one:
1040-1105 Rashi

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Not sure if all of these names are arabic as well, I could not solve them, some might require some research:
1003-1088 Nir-I Khusraw
[author:Isml Ibn Ammd D 1003? Jawhar|15840697..."

I'll check them

[Ismail]

The first one is a Persian author I'll try with him later

These authors are done:
Ismail Ibn Hammad Al-Jawhari
Muhammad Ibn Abi Bakr Arrazi
Badi' Az-Zaman Al-Hamadhani
Al-Mu'ayyad Billah Ahmad Ibn Al-Husain

and their books were combined with the Arabic editions

Sorry I can't continue now, I'll continue later

[Ismail]

All the remaining authors were done, including the Persian an the Hebrew:

Nasir-i Khusraw
Taqi Ad-Din Ibn Hujjah Al-Hamawi
Al-Mu'tamid Ibn Abbad
Al-Hariri
Muhammad Kurd Ali
Rashi

[Redangel333]

Great work!
I have found some more that I could not work out:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

In addition I came across an author Ghazzali which I could not find a profile to merge on as I was unsure which one would be the correct one. I found two variants because they have numbers: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
I was not sure if they should be combined with https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... or with https://www.goodreads.com/author/show... or maybe there is another profile to be combined with?

[Redangel333]

these are some additional Arabic ones I could not solve:
'Ali Ibn Ahmad 994-1064 Ibn Hazm
Muammad Ibn Abd Al-Karm 1086 ShahrastnAl Ibn Amad 994-1064 Ibn Azm
Mamd Ibn Umar 1075-1144 Zamakhshar
فخر الدین الطریحی النجفی المتوفی سنة 1085 هجری
Ibn Ezra Abraham Ben Me(c)-R 1092-1167
Abraham Ben Meir 1092-1167 Ibn Ezra

and an Asian one which I can not solve:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

When these ones and the ones I mentioned under #16 and #28 are solved, then the years 1000 till 1100 should be solved!

[Ismail]

Very great
Yes there are two Ghazzali one of them is in the 20th century,
Anyway I'll try to do my best and check asap

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Great work!
I have found some more that I could not work out:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3......"

These are done:
Jan Muhammad Qudsi
Abul 'Ala' Al-Ma'arri
Yusuf Ibn Tahir Al-Khaweie
Ibrahim Ibn Abi Al-Fath Ibn Khafajah
Hibat Allah Ibn Ali Ibn Al-Shajari
Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali
Ahmad Ghazali

[Ismail]

These are the remaining:

Ibn Hazm Al-Andalusi

Abu Al-Fath Al-Shahrestani

Mahmoud Ibn Umar Az-Zamakhshari (I didn't find an English profile for this one. I found an Arabic)

فخر الدين الطريحي النجفي (No English profile but there is an Arabic one)

Abraham Ben Meir Ibn Ezra (No Arabic Profile)

For the Chinese one this is the only and closest one to him:
Li Qingzhao
The years of birth and death are close but not the same
and as you know the name of his book is not clear so we can compare between the books. So that I didn't merge them

[Redangel333]

Thanks for the ones you were able to solve. I checked where other issues like these were posted, and posted separate threads there:
Chinese one: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

remaining hebrew issues:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

I forgot to mention it, while doing 1000-1100 I came across a bug in author names and posted the issue in the bugs section: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Just wanted to mention it in case anyone comes across these strange looking books while working on other years.

Just for mentioning it, while doing 1000-1100 I did not correct authors with numbers that were no dates. There is an awful lot of authors in 1000 and 1001 that seem wrong, but since they are not connected to a year, I understand them as a separate issue. They might as well be correct, just wanted to mention that I did not dig deeper on those.
Examples:
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

[Redangel333]

Bsh 1823 or 4-1893 Al Mubrak again an arabic one where I am a bit lost.

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Bsh 1823 or 4-1893 Al Mubrak again an arabic one where I am a bit lost."

Ali Basha Mubarak
I merged him with Ali Mubarak

[Redangel333]

A more general question, which authors with dates should be adressed in this thread? I came across some author who have the current years, like 2017, 2018 and so on in their names. Should they be adressed here as well? It is mostly years and an awful lot of Journals and stuff. Or shall I open a seperate thread in projects?

[Redangel333]

In addition I came across some I could not solve again:
Fl 1110-1161 Nizami 'Aruzi
Fl 1110-1161 Nim 'Arz
Abd Al-Karm Ibn Muammad 1113-1166 Samn
Izz Al-Dn 1160-1233 Al-Lu Ibn Al-Athr

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Redangel333 wrote: "A more general question, which authors with dates should be adressed in this thread? I came across some author who have the current years, like 2017, 2018 and so on in their names. Should they be a..."

I believe authors who are people should not have dates. There may be others who appropriately have dates such as London Exhibition 1851.

[Redangel333]

Thanks a lot, solved 1&2. For 3 the link does not open on my computer, I get a security warning.

For 4 I am not aware if there is alreay a profile in the database, if not I am struggeling identifying the last name part of the name, therefore I leave that one for someone more experienced with arabic names.

[Redangel333]

Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Redangel333 wrote: "A more general question, which authors with dates should be adressed in this thread? I came across some author who have the current years, like 2017, 2018 and so on in their nam..."

Slimming Diary 2017
Slimming Journal 2017 are these keeping the year as well?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Those are all non-book items. NAB'd the lot.

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Thanks a lot, solved 1&2. For 3 the link does not open on my computer, I get a security warning.

For 4 I am not aware if there is alreay a profile in the database, if not I am struggeling identif..."

Abd Al-Karim Ibn Muhammad As-Sama'ani
'Izz al-Din Ibn al-Athir
Jalaluddin As-Suyuti

[Redangel333]

rivka wrote: "Those are all non-book items. NAB'd the lot."

Thanks a lot, I will post the rest that I find then in the NAB thread.

[Redangel333]

Ismail wrote: "Redangel333 wrote: "Thanks a lot, solved 1&2. For 3 the link does not open on my computer, I get a security warning.

For 4 I am not aware if there is alreay a profile in the database, if not I am..."

Thanks for helping out!

[Ismail]

Any time

[Redangel333]

Moved on in the years from 1100 upwards and here are the finds that I can not solve:
وطواط، رشيد الدين محمد بن محمد، ح. 1114-ح. 1182. شواربي، إبراهيم أمين.
Al-Himyari D 1117 Nashwn Ibn Sa'id
1882- 'Azim Al-Din Ahmad
Al-Usayn Ibn Masd D 1117? Ma'l Baghaw
'Al Ibn Muammad 1279 O Khzin Al-Baghdd
Abd Allh Ibn Amad D 1310 Nasaf

and this one looks suspicially like a title ending up as an author, but I cannot prove it:
《家居细节解读1128例：吊顶 楼梯》编委会

[Ismail]

Redangel333 wrote: "Moved on in the years from 1100 upwards and here are the finds that I can not solve:
وطواط، رشيد الدين محمد بن محمد، ح. 1114-ح. 1182. شواربي، إبراهيم أمين.
[author:Al-Himyari D 11..."

I'll check
(the first link contains two authors)

[Ismail]

وطواط رشيد الدين العمري
إبراهيم أمين الشواربي
Nashwan Ibn Sa'id Al-Hemyari
'Azim Ad-Din Ahmad
Al-Husayn Ibn Mas'ud Al-Baghwi
Abdullah Ibn Ahmad An-Nasafi
'Ali Ibn Muhammad Al-Khazin

[Redangel333]

Thanks again! I did a couple of years today and these three are the remaining ones:
Al Dadah D 1598 Shaykh Al-Turbah
1445-1505 Wasil Ila Marifat Al-Aw Suy
Jall Al-Dn Muammad Ibn Amad 1389 Maall

The year 1144 is strange, as I get a lot of matched on chinese signs:
https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...
Will continue tomorrow with the years upwards.

[Ismail]

These are done:

Ala'uddin Ali Dadah Shaykh Al-Turbah

Jalaluddin As-Suyuti

Jalaludin Al-Mahalli