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Karel wrote: "Hi, so, I was wondering if the Reading Schedule posts are going to be published a little earlier. I have this beautiful ilustrated spanish copy of the book but I have to returned to the library in ..."Can you renew the book? Otherwise you can probably find the Spanish edition online.
Everyman wrote: "Fascinating differences in approach, as you say. I wondered at some of them (only got about a third of the way through), for example the one titled "Ratty fishing on the river" which was a young man in a tan suit and red tie sitting on a dock. Was that from a movie version, I wonder?"
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Re: Bransom. Did they have colored pencils in 1913?
Rochelle wrote: "Karel wrote: "Can you renew the book? Otherwise you can probably find the Spanish edition online...."I already renew it, but yesterday I found an english copy in play books, so I would use that one for final comments =) I´m in Mexico and this book is not a classic read for children at all, actually, to find a printed spanish copy is pretty rare, you have to order it.
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‘One does not argue about The Wind in the Willows. The young man gives it to the girl with whom he is in love, and..."
I love that Tracey, particularly coming from AA Milne. I feel certain similarities between he worlds of Winnie the Pooh and of WITW, although Pooh and his friends strike me as representing types of children, and Grahames creatures, though equally innocent, seem more adult.
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Hello Karel-sometimes in the past we have posted all the threads close to the beginning of the read, but I've often thought that this didn't work so well-it felt more like everyone giving their opinion individually, rather than having a developing conversation. So I would agree with Rosemarie's advice-take notes of your own thoughts and then join the discussion when it arrives.
Frances wrote: "Hello Karel-sometimes in the past we have posted all the threads close to the beginning of the read, but I've often thought that this didn't work so well-it felt more like everyone giving their opinion individually, rather than having a developing conversation.."Very much agree. Well said.
Rochelle wrote: "Did they have colored pencils in 1913?.."Apparently yes, but as a fairly new medium (so might have attracted attention as something different and a bit exotic?)
From Wikipedia, fwiw:
The history of the colored pencil is not entirely clear. The use of wax-based mediums in crayons is well-documented, however, and can be traced back to the Greek Golden Age, and was later documented by Roman scholar, Pliny the Elder.[7] Wax-based materials have appealed to artists for centuries due to their resistance to decay, the vividness and brilliance of their colors, and their unique rendering qualities.[7] Although colored pencils had been used for “checking and marking” for decades prior, it was not until the early 20th century that artist-quality colored pencils were produced. Manufacturers that began producing artist-grade colored pencils included Faber-Castell in 1908 and Caran d’Ache in 1924,
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Re: illustrations. There have been some beautiful illustrations shown in the sites recommended by various members.
Have any of you had the experience of illustrations that do not match the story. The illustrator of the copy that I am reading is Robert Ingpen, who has created a charming, cosy mood overall.
Tracey wrote: "I found this and thought it was a wonderful comment from one author about another:‘One does not argue about The Wind in the Willows. The young man gives it to the girl with whom he is in love, and..."
AA Milne is great.
Everyman wrote: "Rochelle wrote: "URL, please? ."https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/im...
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There was a theater work called "Toad of Toad Hall" some years back, which has been revived a few times. Humans played all the characters because they couldn't get a rat with enough acting experience.
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I saw it, and I remember nothing, so it's on my list. I think after we finish the book, we can all watch it on Youtube. This one seems to be complete at 48 minutes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBGRn...
Tracey wrote: "I found this and thought it was a wonderful comment from one author about another:‘One does not argue about The Wind in the Willows. The young man gives it to the girl with whom he is in love, and..."
Wonderful! I would say the same of Pooh.
@111 Rosemarie wrote: "Have any of you had the experience of illustrations that do not match the story. The illustrator of the copy that I am reading is Robert Ingpen, who has created a charming, cosy mood overall...."Rosemarie -- from my annotated copy: "In a fan letter dated December 17, 1931, Margaret Stewart writes to Grahame to complain about the new Shepard edition: 'Since my earliest childhood I have wondered why artists do not read the books they illustrate,' to which a letter in Elspeth's handwriting replies, 'Yes--it is exasperating. These artists are very tiresome fellows--and they all do it!' (MS. Eng. misc. d. 532, pp. 186-88)", p5, W.W. Norton, Pub., 2009.
A recent edition with illustrations by Wyndham Payne shows, for "The River Bank," Mole reclining under a tree watching birds busily building a nest in a birdhouse -- of which no mention is here in the text and Mole is running "hither and thither...busily though the meadows." lbid.
In 1909, Theodore Roosevelt, then US president, wrote to Grahame to tell him that he had “read it [The Wind in the Willows] and reread it, and have come to accept the characters as old friends.” (See The Wind in the Willows, Wikipedia)[iv]
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