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Many people fear his coming, but both the Aiel and now the Seafolk seem to have been waiting for it.
The interaction between the girls and the Sea mistress and her wind finder is curious, especially her deferring to the wave mistress over their final decision about granting passage.
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Rand teleports himself, Mat, Moraine, Lan, Egwenye and the Aiel to Rhuidian.
Rand, Mat, Avasarala and Moraine are all given permission to enter. Avasarala can channel and is to become a wise one.
Mat promises Rand he won't enter the rings, but in classic Mat fashion does so anyways. The place is much like the first, although the creatures are different.
Mat hopes to answer questions based on what he learned the last time. Asking about the daughter of the nine moons, and losing half the light of the world, but they seem to ignore him.
However, they seem to key in on things: filling the gaps in his memory, protectiin from Aes Sedai, and a way out I think. However, he didn't know he was bargaining or how it worked and so it appears he's being hung. And that's where it cuts off. And the next chapter isn't about him.
Damn you Robert Jordan!
This book is a lot better than I remember, save for the painfully slow first 20% or so. That will cost it at least 1 star, possibly 1.5.
I wish I could say I ended this section here on purpose but it just worked out that way. I was thinking the same thing about the different cultures. It was one of my favorite things about Malazan as well. It just adds another layer of depth to the world.
So it looks like there are two cultures the Seafolk and Aiel who purposely don't send their channel able children to the Aes Sedai but instead train them themselves. When the Aes Sedai talked about their dwindling numbers I thought it was one of those situations where magic was fading from the world but looks like it might be because they don't have anyone searching in the right places.
It also looks like Egwene and Elayne are going to be the first outsiders to learn skills from the cultures that the Aes Sedai may be lacking in.
I loved how Rand handled the Tierans. First backing Lord Sunamon into a corner with the Mayene treaty and basically setting him up to hang if he fails. Secondly forcing the rest of the nobles into a situation where they will be too distracted fighting each other to plot against him.
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Plus, I doubt that the Aiel or Seafolk holding back their channelers is a new thing. Obviously though we've seen that there are undiscovered channelers out in the fringes that may be there too.
The way Jordan shifts the story from being boring and slow to giving us insight into the Aiel culture and the sea folk culture makes these books such a wonderful read.Elayne and Nyaneve interacting with the sea folk was classic, as it was funny to see how much Nyaneve is ruled by her emotions.
Also Rhuidean has a shroud of mystery surrounding it because no Aiel wants to talk about it to the outlanders.
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Elayne and Nyaneve interacti..."
To bad it's boring and slow first though..
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