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Bill | 1596 comments Part 3

Please keep all discussion and speculation to the events of Part 3 (Chapters 12-18).

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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Things finally picking up here. Chapter 15 especially. I should probably grab my paperback and copy out all the things Mat learns.

He's upset they didn't answer him, but he learned more than he realizes. Much of it we won't understand until much later. I love that stuff. We don't know what he intended to ask beyond the first question, since he was easily diverted.

I really want to know what Rand and Moraine learned. I suspect at least Moraine wasn't derailed from her questions like Mat. Part of that was probably about Thom going with Nyneave and Elayne. She seemed so certain.

I'm starting to get tired of Perrin and Faile a lot sooner than I did the first time. I'm enjoying his story, but not the bickering.


Bill | 1596 comments Mat - Should I go home to help my people?
Answer - You must go to Rhuidean.

So these are Mat's questions and answers with all the other text cut out.

Mat - Why should I?
Answer - If you do not go to Rhuidean you will die.

Mat - Why will I die if I do not go to Rhuidean?
Answer - you will have sidestepped the thread of fate, left your fate to drift on the winds of time, and you will be killed by those who do not want that fate fulfilled.

Mat - What fate?
Answer - To marry the Daughter of the Nine Moons
- To die and live again, and live once more a part of what was.
- To give up half the light of the world to save the world.


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Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Nice. Thanks Bill.

I know 2/3 of the final prophecies. I might know the third..but I'm a little murky on it.


Sumant | 522 comments Thanks Bill, I actually missed that part as I fell asleep on bus while listening to audio.

We come to know that the trolloc attack in stone was to kill black Ajah sisters who were captives. Also any idea who was the sister who killed Sarah Coventry when trying to get information from her.

So Rand & Mat With Morarine are heading to Rhuidean.

Nyaneve and Elayne are traveling to Tanchico with Thom.

Perrin and Faile are going to two rivers as the white cloaks are marching over there.


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