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message 51: by Lily (new)

Lily (joy1) | 2631 comments Some thoughts about writing strong characters -- the question being which ones of Trollope's succeed and why.

This one is a rather raunchy, but amusing and useful, if perhaps over-wrought, treatise:

http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2014/...

So-soo :
http://www.writersdigest.com/writing-...

I searched for "what makes a good character in a story" and scanned several of the hits. Not satisfied with most of them, but also many were pretty good. If you have a favorite list of your own or an article on what makes a good character, share?


message 52: by Lily (new)

Lily (joy1) | 2631 comments Interestingly, no Norton Edition of a Trollope writing appears to have been issued?

http://books.wwnorton.com/books/subje...


message 53: by Haaze (new)

Haaze | 86 comments It is fantastic that The Readers Review is embarking on a major Trollope Project!!!! I wish I was paying more attention to Goodreads posts over the summer. Do you think you will go beyond the Barsetshire series and the Palliser novels into terra incognita in the distant future? I presume the group will cross that bridge when they get there? Regardless, thanks for bringing this reading project forward! Bravo!!


message 54: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
We are going on to the Palliser novels after we finish the Barsetshire novels, and perhaps a couple of other novels that aren't part of a series.


message 55: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments What do you all think about beginning Doctor Thorne on October 2? This week, we're discussing the end of Barchester Towers, and that will give us a week off before starting Doctor Thorne.


message 56: by Renee (new)

Renee M | 803 comments October sounds great to me.


message 57: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
Sounds good to me as well.


message 58: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments Yeay! I loved Doctor Thorne. So good.


message 59: by Frances, Moderator (new)

Frances (francesab) | 2286 comments Mod
Sounds good.


message 60: by Robin P, Moderator (last edited Sep 18, 2016 11:31AM) (new)

Robin P | 2650 comments Mod
That date is fine. I found Doctor Thorne a disappointment after Barchester Towers, as it doesn't have the satire. I remember it as being more sentimental. But maybe I will feel differently this time.


message 61: by Dianne (new)

Dianne | 98 comments I'm going to finally join you guys with this one :)


message 62: by Everyman (new)

Everyman | 3574 comments Robin wrote: "That date is fine. I found Doctor Thorne a disappointment after Barchester Towers, as it doesn't have the satire. I remember it as being more sentimental. But maybe I will feel differently this time."

It certainly has a very different tone. Shows that Trollope is not a one-trick pony!


message 63: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
Welcome, Dianne.


message 64: by Lynnm (last edited Nov 20, 2016 10:18AM) (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments The next novel in the series is Framley Parsonage. I just downloaded the book, and there are 48 chapters: 6 chapters each week so that will be 8 weeks to read/discuss the book.

Question: When should we start given the holidays next month? Do you want to start on December 4 or wait until the new year (January 1 is a Sunday)?

And I'll be able to participate more with this one. This semester was incredibly busy; I just had time to read the chapters and post the summaries, which made me feel badly. But the Fall semester is always busy, but Spring semester is far less busy.


message 65: by Dianne (new)

Dianne | 98 comments I'm happy to start in December if that works for everyone else.


message 66: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
I will go with whatever the group decides.


message 67: by Renee (new)

Renee M | 803 comments Also ovary with either.


message 68: by Frances, Moderator (new)

Frances (francesab) | 2286 comments Mod
I'd vote for the new year


message 69: by Frances, Moderator (new)

Frances (francesab) | 2286 comments Mod
Interesting autocorrect there Renee!


message 70: by Lori, Moderator (new)

Lori Goshert (lori_laleh) | 1790 comments Mod
I can start anytime


message 71: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments Frances wrote: "Interesting autocorrect there Renee!"

These autocorrects make me laugh - but also frustrating! :-)


message 72: by Hilary (new)

Hilary (agapoyesoun) | 181 comments Heehee, Frances and Renee!!


message 73: by Hilary (new)

Hilary (agapoyesoun) | 181 comments I loved Dr Thorne. I am overloaded with books, but I shall go with whatever you decide!


message 74: by Robin P, Moderator (new)

Robin P | 2650 comments Mod
I'm ok either way.


message 75: by Haaze (new)

Haaze | 86 comments Fantastic! After this reading experience with Dr. Thorne I'm very much looking forward to embracing Framley Parsonage!


message 76: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments It seems as if people are up for either start date so why don't we go with the December 4 start date?

I'll post the reading schedule tomorrow.

And for Frances (and I'm sure others who didn't post or didn't see my post yet) who wanted January, I will leave Christmas week off the schedule. That way people don't have to worry about the reading that week, and if they are behind, they have a chance to catch up.


message 77: by Frances, Moderator (new)

Frances (francesab) | 2286 comments Mod
Sounds good-looking forward to the next instalment!


message 78: by Renee (new)

Renee M | 803 comments My ovaries and I are just catching up. What? Your ovaries can't type?


message 79: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments The next novel in the series is called "The Small House at Allington," and it is the second to the last in the series.

I was thinking that we could start it on Sunday, February 19.

This gives us this week to finish "Framley Parsonage," and two weeks off.

Once I get the thumbs up and we've finished "Framley Parsonage," I will post a reading schedule.


message 80: by Renee (new)

Renee M | 803 comments Sounds good


message 81: by Dianne (new)

Dianne | 98 comments I like it! I need to catch up on Framley so the time buffer is very helpful.


message 82: by Hedi (new)

Hedi | 1079 comments I still have to catch up, too. Then this will be my goal date for Framley Parsonage so that I can start the next novel together with you. I really have to do something about my current news addiction that is still taking up most of my spare time. :-(


message 83: by Lori, Moderator (new)

Lori Goshert (lori_laleh) | 1790 comments Mod
fine with me!


message 84: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
Sounds good to me.


message 85: by Frances, Moderator (new)

Frances (francesab) | 2286 comments Mod
2 thumbs up!


message 86: by Robin P, Moderator (new)

Robin P | 2650 comments Mod
Fine with me. When I started reading this series some years ago, I got through Framley, so the other books will be totally new to me. I noticed that, just like many modern authors, Trollope's books get longer as the series goes on.


message 87: by Lynnm (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments Robin wrote: "Fine with me. When I started reading this series some years ago, I got through Framley, so the other books will be totally new to me. I noticed that, just like many modern authors, Trollope's books..."

The next book is much longer - somewhere in the 700+ pages range - more like a Dickens book than the Trollope books that we've previously read.


message 88: by Everyman (new)

Everyman | 3574 comments Frances wrote: "2 thumbs up!"

3 thumbs up


message 89: by Everyman (new)

Everyman | 3574 comments Framley Parsonage discussion formally ended today, according to the home page, though I'm sure we'll be discussing it awhile longer.

So I can plan my reading over the next weeks, has there been a decision yet on when we start The Small House at Allington, and what the reading schedule will be?


message 90: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
We are starting to read it on Feb. 19.


message 91: by Lynnm (last edited Feb 04, 2017 06:40PM) (new)

Lynnm | 3025 comments Everyman wrote: "Framley Parsonage discussion formally ended today, according to the home page, though I'm sure we'll be discussing it awhile longer.

So I can plan my reading over the next weeks, has there been a ..."


I'm going to put up the reading schedule tomorrow, and yes, we are going to begin on Sunday, 2/19.

This will give people who are a bit behind some time to catch up.


message 92: by Everyman (new)

Everyman | 3574 comments Excellent. Thanks.


message 93: by LiLi (new)

LiLi | 295 comments I'm interested in reading my long-collected Palliser novels. do you know when you'll be starting the series?


message 94: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
We are on the second last of the Barsetshire novels, and then we will start on the Pallisers.


message 95: by Haaze (new)

Haaze | 86 comments Rosemarie,
Are the Barsetshire novels relatively independent from each other or do they require that one reads them in a sequence?


message 96: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
The first two should be read in order, but the rest stand fairly well on their own. The book we are reading now has a new setting and new main characters, so you could easily begin with The Small House at Allington before going back to read the others.


message 97: by Haaze (new)

Haaze | 86 comments Thank you Rosemarie!


message 98: by James (new)

James Catt | 3 comments i love the warden. great book


message 99: by Haaze (new)

Haaze | 86 comments James wrote: "i love the warden. great book"

That's what I hear!


message 100: by Rosemarie, Moderator (new)

Rosemarie | 3304 comments Mod
I have really enjoyed all the books we have read so far. Some of the characters are starting to feel like family-even the annoying ones.


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