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ACOWAR ~ Plot Predictions
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Diane
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Dec 24, 2016 08:13AM
I don't think that Ianthe is the tool's mate, but I definitely think that something happened between them that night.
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Can I just say, TAMLIN HAS TO DIE. Just thought I'd let everyone know that
I would not want Tamlin to die. He deserves redemption because he has been through a lot but needs to deal with it in better ways and not be a tool.
I kind of agree. We have to remember that he was suffering too, and although that does not condone his actions, it gives reasons for it.
Besides, SJM said he would be getting redemption.
I agree with that what Tamlin did is bad really bad and we can't even think that his reasons make it okay but he suffer and it would be so interesting to see him learn from his mistakes and have some kind of redemption and I don't think he ever wanted to hurt Feyre even if he did at the end in his own weird way he love her
Um, guys, can I ask a question? It's not related to Acowar but I'd like to know one thing. I have to choose between the Wicked Lovely series and Talons by Julie Kagawa. Which one should I buy?
Um, guys, can I ask an unrelated question? I have to choose between the Wicked Lovely series and Talons by Julie Kagawa. Which one should I buy?
Sorry for repeating the same comment.
SJM is gonna have a Tamlin ark where he redeems himself so....
WARNING: ACOTAR AND ACOMAF SPOILERS!!!!!When I found out that the title is A Court Of Wings And Ruin, My initial thought on the 'ruin' aspect was 1.) My soul and 2.) The Spring Court. #Sorrynotsorry.
As for 'wings,' either our girl feyre is going to sprout some out-of-this-world glowing wings, not just shapeshift but legitamate Illyrian wings OR some really epic Illyrian action is about to go down, because what distinguishes Illyrians more than wings?
So, mashing those two conspiracies together, Here's what I'm guessing in a nutshell: Feyre gets lured into some trap by Tam the Tool and he locks her up (maybe that's a little farfectched but I'm brainstorming here) and terror is about reign on Prythian and we have all these action filled scenes of Illyrians flying to the spring court to 1.) Free feyre. and 2.) Isn't the spring court like RIGHT on the border of the wall? Well, they are gonna do some stuff there and like make some base or do SOMETHING with the wall.
Wow, I just REALLY got into that. I'm SO excited for ACOWAR now and yes, there definitely will be a war of some sort because the queen herself (sarah) said the WAR in the acronym was intentional so....I think we should be scared.
Honestly I see NO REDEMPTION for Tamlin. I think he's just really screwed up from 49 years of Amarantha and he is just in a bad state of mind that there's no getting out of. That doesn't make it okay but I feel like he is going to sacrafice himself. He isn't a full blown villain but he screwed up like there is no going back.
I think if Tamlin can get into his head that Feyre doesn't want to be with him anymore, and he gets rid of Ianthe then he is on the road to redemption, BC that's really the only reason we don't like him right? He listened to Ianthe and locked Feyre up and ignored her needs. If we eliminate those factions then he goes back to being the adorable and sweet high lord we loved in the beginning of ACOTAR and hopefully he finds his REAL mate and finds happiness without Feyre
Blythe wrote: "I think if Tamlin can get into his head that Feyre doesn't want to be with him anymore, and he gets rid of Ianthe then he is on the road to redemption, BC that's really the only reason we don't lik..."True, but now that we've seen his true colours most people's vision of him is completely distorted (including mine) so either way in my mind he'll never go back to being that high lord. I agree though, good point.
What happens if Rhys's sister WAS Tamlin's mate?? That's my theory it's a long shot but I've found some *possible forshadowing*
Chloe Marie= WAIT Rhys has a sister?!?? I mean one that is still alive that is I thought she died with her mother!(If people can get over their own vision and see him as an actual person instead of the enemy then I think people will start to like him again
Blythe wrote: "Chloe Marie= WAIT Rhys has a sister?!?? I mean one that is still alive that is I thought she died with her mother!(If people can get over their own vision and see him as an actual person instead ..."
I think she did die with her mother.. but they may have been mates before she died. (from what I've read from other people's theories.)
......a thought occurs. Maybe that's why Tamlin is so butthurt over Rhys and Feyre being mates? Maybe he knows that the mating bond was not destroyed by the king of hybern. Maybe he's just messing with Rhys because Tamlin's mate is no longer alive? Kinda like "If I can't be happy, no one can" kinda thing? Or is that a little too out there?
If they had been mates before she died then how and when did they meet? I mean (SPOILER!!) their families ended up killing each other off and they were never friends before that. How did Tamlin KNOW that Rhys' sister was his mate? And if he didn't know her then how does he harbor the "If I can't be happy then no one can" thought? Since there isnt any facts to prove that Tamlin had met and knew Rehys' sister then he couldn't act that way at all.
Wasn't it said that Tamlin and Rhysand used to be friends? So, in that time, Tamlin could've met Rhys's sister.
This is a really interesting theory but it seems a just a little farfetched. Comsidering how territorial Fae males are (especially Tamlin) I don't think the dynamics between Rhys and Tamlin would have been the way they are.They were friends and if Tamlin really did love Rhys' sister (why doesn't she have a name??? Damn you Sarah!) he would have probably hurt his brothers himself. He might be sexist and full of himself sometimes but I'm willing to bet just on how possessive he was about Feyre that he wouldn't have stayed quiet if his family murdered the woman he loved. So either they weren't mates or they were but he didn't love her?? Third possibility being that he is a giantest of giant dolts and can't ever do anything right.. Anything's possible : D
I agree with you Rita, it doesn't make any sense that Rhys and Tamlin would act the way they do if Rhys' sister had been Tamlin's mate.
I don't think he is sadistic enough for that to happen and Feyre has been in his room, in the first book she says something like. "Tamlin and I sometimes slept in my room or in his"
Yeah I mean they could of been mates before she was killed by Tamlin's family but there is a line somewhere in ACOTAR that says Lucien and TAMLIN used to go to other courts and meet other women, women their parents might not approve of. I think it's a pretty plausible theory
Queen Of The Books wrote: "I'm just afraid that tamlin might have rhys mother's and sister's wings on display somewhere in his room (seeing feyre has never been inside his room)"That could be true seeing as there are rooms Feyre hasn't even visited
Blythe wrote: "I agree with you Rita, it doesn't make any sense that Rhys and Tamlin would act the way they do if Rhys' sister had been Tamlin's mate."Doesn't Rhys think Tamlin sent his brothers after his family? We really don't know everything behind his and Tamlin's backstory
If you remembered Tamlin was still a 'child' when his family killed Rhys' and Rhys killed Tamlin's family. It also seems far fetched for SJM to make both Lucien and Tamlin loose their mates by someone in their family killing them, plus Tamlin said that he was stronger than his family so why would he let his family kill his mate when he could easily save her, also when Lucien tells Feyre that his mate had been killed by his father and brothers he never spoke of anything similar happening to Tamlin.
Guys, this is unrelated to the current topic, but when my family saw "Santa" this year, I was forced to go tell him what I wanted. (I'm 14, think I've outgrown that, but apparently not) So I asked him for all my favorite fictional characters to live. So here's hoping.
So Sarah posted on her Instagram that ACOWAR is currently the same length as EoS. O.O
so I have finished the tog series up to 5 ... and I have forgotten some details to acomaf... we are very caught up in feyre being at the spring court now. ect... but doesnt the king of hybern have the cauldron??? he can do bad things with that right??? omg I can't remember SO much.
Diane, "currently"... which means it can get longer.. and longer.. AND LONGER... *cackles maniacally*
Well yeah it could get longer or shorter that's what Sarah said but I am soooo hoping for longer!!
So acowar is going to be really long and painful :( all the theories are really interesting I can't wait to read the book
yeah it is gonna hurt. but i don't think she will kill Rhys or feyre... so... its okay.
Their will to live is too strong. Like when Feyre almost died but decided she wanted to live..
so I'm hoping if she does kill them they will somehow be revived
But we nevvverrr know like the spinoff ACOTAR trilogy will feature whoever survives this book but I think some of the inner circle will die, and I believe Tamlin to still be alive by the end
I know.. it hurts my heart... anyone I can think of dying just sucks
maybe he has a CHANCE.. but blows it.. or maybe he dies for feyre.. sacrifices himself for one of the inner circle.. FOR LUCIEN! OMG. Or one of feyres sisters?
I don't think it'll be sacrifice, but I really can't think of a way for him to redeem himself at the moment. We will only know when the moment arises *sighs*I am definitely preordering this . . .
OH FOR SURE! Maybe he will kill the king? idk I can't think of any way for that crapbag to redeem himself...
Well I think Feyre or Rhysand will die idk. I remember te star fall scene on acomaf when Rhys was talking about the stars and why are they traveling and Rhys belongs to the night and everyone could see him in Velaris so I think he will die but it's just my theory. I remember when I started reading acotar that I always thought that Feyre was going to die for the human world and her family but I'm not sure. About Tamlin I think he will die maybe trying to save Feyre but at the same time I think he will survive
The book ended in Spring so Calanmai is just around the corner. That will be awkward!!
It already took place during the cabin scene tho
I know Amren mentioned Nynsar (I think that's what it's called) had passed but I hadn't picked up on Calanmai. How did I miss that!
okay i know sarah isnt this cruel and i think she said that feysand was like a forever thing(i cant remember if she actually said this) but what if feyre rlly was under mind control? i dont think i could deal with that. i mean tamlin was so insistent, and maybe rhys rlly did mind control her.... and it would only seem like she loved him since it was from her perspective that was being controlled. this theory has many holes and honestly i dont believe it myself, and im the one who made it, but its just something to think about..... srry if i have traumatized you....
^nopenopenopenopenopenopeDon't listen to Tamlin the Tool. Feysand is forever. THEY ARE MATES. I don't think the mating bond can be faked. :)
dani :) wrote: "okay i know sarah isnt this cruel and i think she said that feysand was like a forever thing(i cant remember if she actually said this) but what if feyre rlly was under mind control? i dont think i..."No.
Sarah has CONFIRMED that FEYSAND is endgame
