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Assassin's Apprentice - Chapter 21-Epilogue
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Well in that case, Fitz is the real bastard ^^
Bad joke i'm sorry...



Samantha wrote: "Katie wrote: "I felt really unsatisfied at the end. This entire book felt more like an introduction to the world or a training montage for Fitz with a little plot at the end. I have a lot of questi..."
Yes, I was reading some reviews by Kaitlin from KittyG (BookTube) and she says the same thing: Assassin's Quest was very good, Royal Assassin just ok...but then the Liveship Trader and Tawny Man series really take the cake. I'm trying to hang on until we get to those books because I want to experience the WOW factor that some others rave about. I want a "Name of the Wind" moment with Hobb.
I'm glad you did this read-a-long because the discussion is making it so interesting. I love seeing everyone else's perspective. It's helping identify things I may have missed if reading these on my own.
Yes, I was reading some reviews by Kaitlin from KittyG (BookTube) and she says the same thing: Assassin's Quest was very good, Royal Assassin just ok...but then the Liveship Trader and Tawny Man series really take the cake. I'm trying to hang on until we get to those books because I want to experience the WOW factor that some others rave about. I want a "Name of the Wind" moment with Hobb.
I'm glad you did this read-a-long because the discussion is making it so interesting. I love seeing everyone else's perspective. It's helping identify things I may have missed if reading these on my own.
LilistarReads wrote: "Dang that conclusion, does that mean that Fitz was unknowingly getting strength from Burrich the whole time? Also enjoyed Burrich's slight admission that he has the Wit.
I hope that in the second..."
Yes!!! I really wanted to know much more about the redship raiders! What is that magic system that creates the forged? How are they going to stop them? What part will Fitz play in that?
Though this wasn't my favorite read - I am intrigued enough to go on and see what else will transpire with this kingdom. What I REALLY can't wait for is the Liveship Trader and Tawny Man books. However, I understand we need the background info in this trilogy before we can get to those.
I hope that in the second..."
Yes!!! I really wanted to know much more about the redship raiders! What is that magic system that creates the forged? How are they going to stop them? What part will Fitz play in that?
Though this wasn't my favorite read - I am intrigued enough to go on and see what else will transpire with this kingdom. What I REALLY can't wait for is the Liveship Trader and Tawny Man books. However, I understand we need the background info in this trilogy before we can get to those.

I really liked how Fitz got to learn a little more about the skill in this last part of the book. I hope he gets a real good teacher in the next books, so he can master it better.
Looking forward to the next book.


It may be possible that Galen's initial hatred of Chivalry was yet retained deep within his subconscious mind and not actually eradicated by the skilling; but had to find an outlet once the skilling made it impossible to focus the hatred on its original object, Chivalry; and it is certainly possible and highly likely this alternative target was Fitz( who is of course blood relations with Chivalry - the next best thing to hating Chivalry).
Ironically, this particular skilling ability was eventually practiced by Galen himself to induce the other members of the coterie to develop an irrational hatred of Fitz as well.


When Regal drunkenly reveals to the mountain royalty that Fitz is in effect an assassin ( a clandestine role that is never supposed to be made public because it permanently exposes the assassin and thus makes him useless for further spy work), it should have alerted King Eyod that the Farseers had sinister motives and so would place Eyod, Rurisk, their entire family and their kingdom at risk if they proceeded with the marriage. That should have been an absolute deal breaker right there.
Incredibly they go ahead with the ceremony, even after Prince Rurisk is poisoned! It seems preposterous that Eyod and his family would have so little common sense as to not realize that someone in the Farseers camp was responsible for the attempt on Rurisk's life and that that would be enough cause to send them all packing, and to cancel the wedding.
As it stands in the epilogue, you have a ridiculous situation where the reader is asked to believe that Kettricken, Verity and Fitz are so obtuse that they think they can reside civilly at the same castle with Regal, knowing that he tried to kill Verity and Fitz, and did kill Kettricken's brother.
This is a hard ending to swallow (to say nothing of the terrible,and possibly permanent physical and neurological shape that Fitz is left in at the end of the book). Apparently the author decided to leave this hot mess for the next volume to give her time to work out a better resolution( which, fortunately, she is able to do fairly early in "Royal Assassin").
P.S. I realize upon rereading this that i didn't convey how terrifically exciting I thought the action climax sequence was!

I think it was a good first book in a fantasy series. Everything was set up, we have some storylines that came to a conclison and others that were left open.
I hate the king and I don't understand why, if he likes Regal so much he never told him about Chade. Verity obviously knows about Chade, although, maybe he doesn't know about Lady Thyme.
I kind of think Kettricken is annoying. She's so impulsive and naive and that's never a good combination.
I was really sad to see Rurisk die, he was such a great character.
Is there anybody else who is really intrigued by that epilogue?

I think it was a good first book in a fantasy series. Everything was set up, we have some storylines that came to a conclison and others that were left open.
I hate the k..." I didn't just think Kettricken was annoying at the end of the book, I thought she was dangerous (she did attack Fitz twice in the late chapters )! However, I think the author from early on in the next book finds a way get Kettricken to mature quickly, and she starts to become the strong female presence the series needed.

I really enjoyed the book. While I really don't think all too much happened plot-wise it was really interesting to see Fitz grow as a character. I hope that it will be a great basis for future books!
I liked the wrap-up, but there are still quite some questions open, so I am excited to continue on.
I don't really know what to make of Kettricken.. her decisions really felt off and it seems so weird that there are no consequences for Regal for what he has done (yet?).

I always get so emotional during animal deaths, but it was nice to see Nosy again and to know he played such an important part in Fitz's life, even after their bond was broken. I want to see him really explore his Wit and it would be nice if he could have an animal companion last more than a few chapters.
I like Kettricken and I hope we get to see more of her and Verity.
I really want Fitz and Burrich to get over their weird relationship barriers and from the sounds of it, they're headed in that direction.
I agree with everyone else that there wasn't much resolution with the major threats in this book. The Red Ship Raiders were just this ominous threat looming in the background, even though a good chunk of the book was dedicated to the threats they provided and explaining the Forgings.
I suppose the best thing to do is trust Robin Hobb and her ability to tell a good story and wait and see what happens next.


I still want to know why Burrich has such a strong distaste for the Wit. Hopefully that will come out in book 2.
I agree with everyone here that Regal is the worst! I'm not surprised mind you, that he tried to take out Fitz. It seems that's where the book was leading all along though... with all of the different trainings Fitz went through, it didn't read as fluidly as other stories for me. I felt his tale was rather disjointed and wouldn't have been surprised if there weren't much of an ending. I'm glad for the bit of suspense at the end though...
Rurisk and Kettricken were interesting characters... I rather liked Rurisk more so I'm a bit sad that he's gone. I wanted to know more about his background with Chivalry. (Somebody mentioned this in another thread...was Fitz's mother one of the mountain people?! Oh and did Rurisk have the Wit...? It seemed like there was strong bond between him and Nosy... though that may have just been a normal person to animal bond...) And Jonqui... I hope we get more of her in subsequent novels.
The Red-Ship Raiders does leave off quite suddenly... especially after all of Verity & Fitz's actions... but, I am assume that is really the main thread of this trilogy and it will be carried on later? I'd really love to know more about the Forging.





https://youtu.be/U4PowBVU7o4
It is kinda long so you don't have to watch it, so I will just say here: OMG THE ENDING!!! Seriously! It was so slow at the beginning and even though I did enjoy it, I still wanted more action! The ending overwhelmed me. And I am so curious about the Fool now. Maybe he is fairy folk? :) NO SPOILERS
I started Royal Assassin yesterday. Tell me I'm not the only one so behind. XDD

I didn't think I would form strong emotional attachments to characters so quickly but I adore them. [or hate them ;)]
I do feel like this book was a strong introduction to this world and I cannot wait to dive into it deeper. I don't want to speed read through these books because I don't want to miss anything. Hopefully I can catch up to everyone eventually!!

I didn't think I would form strong emotional attachment..."
I'm happy you enjoyed Assassin's Apprentice so much, Jacqui! That climactic sequence at the end was fantastic! And most people like Royal Assassin even more. Will Fitz's bad luck with pets finally end? Maybe third time's the charm :)
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