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Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be 252. . . .)
Codex wrote: "Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be 252. . . .)"
I have a copy here, and the last numbered page is 218. There is one more leaf after that, unnumbered, featuring ads for other books. 252 for a different edition, maybe? The one I have is the 1976 Berkley Medallion paperback edition, as per the link above.
Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be 252. . . .)"
I have a copy here, and the last n..."
Ah. I was matching the ISBN. . . . Now I see WorldCat agrees, going by the 1976 “Berkley Medallion” edition—but WorlCat does not show an ISBN for that edition at all. Can you please confirm that the ISBN (on GR) is in fact correct? I’ll amend the page count based on your book-in-hand info.
Codex wrote: "Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be 252. . . .)"
I have a copy her..."
The Berkley edition lists an SBN of 425-03040-7; not sure where the bracketed isbn number listed comes from, but it does not appear on this edition. The Library of Congress catalogue number is 74-16610.
Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be 252. . . .)"
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OK, that’s only nine (9) digits, and is probably due to the early period when ISBNs were still being introduced. Nevertheless, I see that the GR book entry shows the same nine digits with a prefixed zero (0) as the 10-digit ISBN—and the 13-digit ISBN converts correctly from that; so I’m going to leave it as it is. At least you’ve confirmed the closely corresponding SBN from the book itself. Thanks!
Codex wrote: "Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Dominick wrote: "Codex wrote: "Page count 218 appears to source from Amazon—or can you confirm this from a copy you have in hand?(Worldcat says page count should be ..."
Great, thanks!
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As per Goodreads guidelines, that would still be listed with an original publication date of 1971.
rivka wrote: "Dominick wrote: "The book is a fix-up of material first published in 1968, 1970, and 1971, but it was not published in this format until 1975."As per Goodreads guidelines, that would still be lis..."
That seems odd to me. The contents did not exist as a book until they were revised and combined from three separately-published stories. By that logic, Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz should be listed as published in 1957, the year the final original story was published, not 1959, and the same for probably hundreds of other SF novels.
Dominick wrote: "By that logic, Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz should be listed as published in 1957, the year the final original story was published, not 1959"As I understand A Canticle for Leibowitz is a novel based on (not comprised of) three short stories, which is different from a collection or anthology. A collection or anthology that includes no new material should get the original pub date of the last story that was published separately.
If Missing Man is in the same situation as A Canticle for Leibowitz, I agree with you.
lethe wrote: "Dominick wrote: "By that logic, Miller's A Canticle for Leibowitz should be listed as published in 1957, the year the final original story was published, not 1959"As I understand A Canticle for L..."
I am no expert on Maclean, but from what I can glean, the 1971 piece was a novella. Again, from what I can glean, the novel version expands that earlier version, as well as the two other stories folded into it. A note on the copyright page reads, "Several sections, all substantially revised herein, are reprinted from Analog. Copyright 1968, 1970, 1971. . . ." Admittedly, "reprinted" seems at odds with "substantially revised," but the sound of this is that the book includes major differences from the earlier material, including entirely new sections. I really don't know what the bar is for determining whether a fix-up should count as having a new publication date from the last of the original stories, and I have not read the stories in question myself so cannot comment on how substantially revised the "substantially revised" sections are. But Worldcat gives the earliest publication date for the novel as 1975, the International Science Fiction Database gives the publication date as 1975 (identifying it as a fix-up of the three earlier stories), and every other reference I have found to the novel gives its publication date as 1975 (not that I have devoted hours to searching).
Dominick wrote: "But Worldcat gives the earliest publication date for the novel as 1975, the International Science Fiction Database gives the publication date as 1975 (identifying it as a fix-up of the three earlier stories), and every other reference I have found to the novel gives its publication date as 1975 (not that I have devoted hours to searching). "Yes, but that is because of GR's idiosyncratic way of determining the original pub date (same with the page count). Library catalogues and other databases just take the original pub date of the book in hand, they don't care about the date the stories (or whatever) were published originally.
I think in this case the original pub date should be changed to 1975, but I'd like to hear from rivka first.
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Missing is the page count, which is listed as 0 but should be 218.
Incorrect is the publication date information, which states that the book was originally published in 1971. The book is a fix-up of material first published in 1968, 1970, and 1971, but it was not published in this format until 1975.