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message 1: by Chris (new)

Chris Fritschi a writer uses the word 'suddenly'? Some feel it takes away from the moment. Others feel it's the perfect transition.

How do you feel about 'suddenly'?


Olivia "So many books--so little time."" | 678 comments I never gave it any thought until you asked--it's OK with me.


message 3: by Marion (new)

Marion Mlodynia | 568 comments Gee, I never really thought about it. Interesting though


message 4: by Chris (new)

Chris Fritschi Among writers there seems to be an anti-suddenly movement. As both a reader and writer, I've never considered it an issue. Then again, I use the word sparingly.

As readers, we have such a wide taste in what we find good writing.


message 5: by Icewineanne (new)

Icewineanne | 725 comments Not something that has ever bothered me :-)


message 6: by Debbie (new)

Debbie Oxier (debbieoxier) | 4943 comments Doesn't bother me


message 7: by J.B. (new)

J.B. (goodreadscomjbmorrisauthor) | 244 comments My thoughts
Suddenly is a response to an action.
I prefer writing the action and let the reader decide it happened "suddenly."


message 8: by Pamela (new)

Pamela Mclaren | 193 comments J.B. wrote: "My thoughts
Suddenly is a response to an action.
I prefer writing the action and let the reader decide it happened "suddenly.""


I agree, JB. In other forms of writing it may work well but when telling a story, the author should write the action in such a way that the reader thinks "this happened suddenly." I do have to admit that I haven't really ever thought about it before. I've seen lots of writers use the word ... i.e., "he suddenly came out of the woods ..." type of thing. But it would probably always be better that "he bolted, he charged, he lunged" ... it implies suddenly and feels stronger.


message 9: by Marion (new)

Marion Mlodynia | 568 comments Pamela wrote: "J.B. wrote: "My thoughts
Suddenly is a response to an action.
I prefer writing the action and let the reader decide it happened "suddenly.""

I agree, JB. In other forms of writing it may work well..."


I totally agree


message 10: by Tom (new)

Tom | 922 comments Pamela wrote: "J.B. wrote: "My thoughts
Suddenly is a response to an action.
I prefer writing the action and let the reader decide it happened "suddenly.""

I agree, JB. In other forms of writing it may work well..."


I agree for the most part. "Suddenly" can be and often is used as a crutch. But then again, there are times (infrequent as they may be) when it is just the appropriate adverb to use. It would bother me just as much to see a writer uncomfortably wedge some other word into a sentence where "suddenly" is the natural fit.


message 11: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments Like any word, 'suddenly' has it's place in writing. It's only when it's over-used that it becomes annoying.


message 12: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) | 29 comments Or the word "literally" especially when it isn't literal.


message 13: by Emily (new)

Emily Thrash (thrash42) | 3 comments Other problems with suddenly:

1. if the action really is "sudden" then it's probably unearned. Suspense is more satisfying than true surprise.
2. If It really is a surprise, it should be a surprise on its own merit. If the writer feels the need to include "suddenly" its a sign of insecurity, forcing the surprise.

"The door banged open" indicates surprise.
"Suddenly, the door banged open." Indicates the author really hopes this is a surprise.


message 14: by Nadirah (new)

Nadirah Khalifah | 3 comments I agree. The word suddenly takes away from the rule "show the reader instead of telling"


message 15: by Marion (new)

Marion Mlodynia | 568 comments I never gave it a thought


message 16: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) | 29 comments .... when the detective is damaged and a drunk and yet manages to solve the crime.


message 17: by Mike (new)

Mike | 19 comments Not as much as the miss-use of the word 'literally' that drives me figuratively insane.


message 18: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments More than a specific word overused or misused, I hate continuity errors. One morning a character's car is in the shop for major repairs, that afternoon he's driving it. A secondary or minor character is named Annie when introduced to the reader, the next chapter she's Emma. A character puts a mug of tea on the table yet drinks from a cup. Drives me crazy.


message 19: by Denise (new)

Denise Dupree (denisemdupree) | 1 comments I guess I don't hate it because I can honestly say I've never noticed it. But I do hate when authors try to use synonyms or word substitutes. For me, it causes a break in the flow of writing. I'm a "he said" over "he hissed" kind of girl lol.


message 20: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments Technically, you can't "hiss" words, or "laugh" words. That is an action (a sentence, not an attribution). You get the idea. And, you're right. Obvious use of synonyms is distracting, perplexing, diverting, flustering, disturbing….etc, etc.


message 21: by Marion (new)

Marion Mlodynia | 568 comments I hate it when I find misspellings in the book. WTH?


message 22: by SherryRose (new)

SherryRose | 162 comments I read a book that said, "suddenly, without warning, he removed his hat." There were no monsters under his hat. He just took it off lol.

I hate it when writers use the same outline for every book.


message 23: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments Good one….or should I say "bad one." Repetition, too. Suddenly is generally without warning.


message 24: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments Denise wrote: "I guess I don't hate it because I can honestly say I've never noticed it. But I do hate when authors try to use synonyms or word substitutes. For me, it causes a break in the flow of writing. I'm a..."

In general, I agree. Words like 'intoned,' 'chimed in,' and 'stated' make me think the writing is very outdated or the writer is a thesaurus addict.

On the other hand, while I try to stick with 'said' in my own writing, there are times when synonyms like 'shouted, 'whispered, ' or 'bellowed' are the only way to convey how the person is speaking.


message 25: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments In your writing. Instead of giving the attribution (he said). End the dialogue and give an action. Instead of... "Dialogue," Jim said as he clenched his fists and left the room….try this..."Dialogue." Jim clenched his fists and left the room.


message 26: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments I do that sometimes, too, and it can be an effective way to indicate how the line was spoken. But sometimes "Dialog," she whispered. is the best way to do it.

In my current WIP, I have a man come up to my MC and sees he's been shot. Here's the next line:
He tugs my shirt up. “Shit! Madge!” he barks. “Bring the first aid kit! And a flashlight!”


message 27: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments Uh…a character "barks" orders. Maybe…."Shit, Madge! Bring the the first aid kit!" he barks. "And a flashlight!"


message 28: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2376 comments Barks as in shouts sharply and loudly.


message 29: by Icewineanne (new)

Icewineanne | 725 comments No offense but not a fan of "barks"....


message 30: by SherryRose (new)

SherryRose | 162 comments Some people bark commands. It works for me.


message 31: by Mike (new)

Mike | 19 comments One of the books I recently read irritated me by constantly switching between the first and third person.


message 32: by SherryRose (new)

SherryRose | 162 comments Mike wrote: "One of the books I recently read irritated me by constantly switching between the first and third person."

Inconsistent and confusing!


message 33: by Emilee (new)

Emilee Ashline (eashline92) | 16 comments Yes and I also hate how some books are just so predictable


message 34: by Betsy (last edited Aug 28, 2016 06:56PM) (new)

Betsy | 11554 comments I am not fond of books that are written in first person although I know some very good books that are. The other thing I don't particularly like are books, especially mysteries, written in present tense.


message 35: by Emilee (new)

Emilee Ashline (eashline92) | 16 comments I hate it when I am interrupted during reading Just as I am getting to a good part


message 36: by Mike (new)

Mike | 19 comments Sherry wrote: "Mike wrote: "One of the books I recently read irritated me by constantly switching between the first and third person."

Inconsistent and confusing!"


I can understand why it was done, the first person was for the main character and the third for all the others but it would have been better written entirely in the third person. Well that's my opinion about it anyhow.


message 37: by M.A.R. (new)

M.A.R. Unger | 127 comments Let's clarify…if written in first person, the "I" character can't know what another character is thinking or feeling. The first person can only look at reactions and listen to dialogue. If the writer switches back and forth, it's time to close the book and pick up another.

My peeve? Lack of continuity as in the age of the character. Missy is 6 yrs old at the start. A few months go by and she's 8? Really?


message 38: by Marie (new)

Marie The word "suddenly" does not bother me.


message 39: by James (new)

James Peyton | 20 comments It seems to me that using the word "suddenly" falls into the unloved category of telling rather than showing.


message 40: by Kristen (new)

Kristen Twardowski (kristen_twardowski) | 1 comments I think it depends. The word can certainly serve a purpose - and I hate it when authors tie themselves in knots to avoid a particular word or phrase - but it can usually be replaced with a better term. Honestly though, as long as "suddenly" doesn't devolve into one of an author's writing tics, I don't mind it.


ReadAlongWithSue recovering from a stroke★⋆. ࿐࿔ Far too much unneeded narration and not enough dialogue


message 42: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 11554 comments Far too much dialogue and not enough narration can be almost as bad. There should be a happy medium. I guess that's why I tend to stick to non-fiction with mysteries added into the reading mix.


message 43: by Michael (new)

Michael Rubin | 4 comments Lack of continuity or loose strings that are never tied up. Lack of continuity is usually a problem of poor editing, but the laying out of important clues (whether these are red herrings or not) and then not indicating by the end of the novel how these tie into the events/theme/solution are disturbing to readers. I like it when an author has a satisfying twist at the end that also brings all the loose strings together.


message 44: by Mike (last edited Nov 10, 2017 12:50PM) (new)

Mike | 19 comments The incorrect use of literally drives me figuratively insane.


message 45: by Laura (new)

Laura M.A.R. wrote: "More than a specific word overused or misused, I hate continuity errors. One morning a character's car is in the shop for major repairs, that afternoon he's driving it. A secondary or minor charact..."

That bothers me, too. I read a novel where the character's age changed about three times (when it shouldn't have changed at all) and it broke the narrative unity and believability for me.


message 46: by lorii (Loriidae) (last edited Feb 12, 2018 03:59PM) (new)

lorii (Loriidae) I am annoyed by the killer / villain / mole being revealed to me, the reader before the main characters have worked it out. I like to experience the logical progression of discovery along with them.


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