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Gerda What astonishes me most is the fact that no reader who claims Gideon as best book-boyfriend ever comments the fact that he committed a murder and got away with it because he had the means to supply a crime scene without video footage and friends in the right places to put the blame on someone else. There was no repentance or atonement or sentence.
I was curious to learn when and how SD would solve that problem but she didn’t tackle it at all. In my eyes he is a muderer however noble his intention to save Eva might be, it was a crime. HEA with a murderer in a romance is wholly unacceptable for me.
Are you ok with unpunished homicide in a romance novel series ?


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Sonya Heaney Pretty much every paranormal romance and urban fantasy hero is a murderer... Including the YA heroes.


Ilana i think that your assessment of how he didn't feel remorse at all isn't correct, i think that he wasn't nearly as repentant as you'd like but he did have some feelings of doing something that wasn't right but for protection.

I think that his justification was that Nathan was going to go after Eva, and he had enough of a chance to try to kill her that he was going to make the attempt so Gideon was being proactive. I think the other piece though that you're glossing over is that not only did Gideon kill Nathan, but clancy then went and killed someone else to make the trail cold. and you're then not putting any issues on what Clancy did - all with the same rationale of protecting Eva in self defense and she was going to be a victim.

not at all am i saying that it's right or justified, just a different perspective.


Gerda Ilana wrote: "i think that your assessment of how he didn't feel remorse at all isn't correct, i think that he wasn't nearly as repentant as you'd like but he did have some feelings of doing something that wasn'..."

Clancy didn't kill anybody, his brother at the NYPD put Nathan's bracelet as piece of evidence to the file of some victim of the mob, so the police would draw the wrong conclusion.
In my opinion a high praised author as Sylvia Day should be able to come up with a sophisticated way to get rid of a thread for the heroine and I had hope until the end there would be a twist to prove Gideon's innocence.


Luna Woo I'm not saying it isn't twisted IRL, but it is seriously hot that someone loves you enough to kill for you. Just sayin...

Gudrun wrote: "What astonishes me most is the fact that no reader who claims Gideon as best book-boyfriend ever comments the fact that he committed a murder and got away with it because he had the means to supply..."


Karen Gudrun wrote: "What astonishes me most is the fact that no reader who claims Gideon as best book-boyfriend ever comments the fact that he committed a murder and got away with it because he had the means to supply..."

I have no problem with it. Gideon killed Nathan to protect Eva. Right or wrong the motive was justified. I don't need my hero's to be perfect upstanding citizens. I'm okay with unpunished homicide in a romance when that homicide was to protect someone who was brutally abused.


Debbie M Its fiction.........the murder did/does haunt Gideon. But its just the way the storyline went - people have gotten away with much worse in some stories and in real life..........


Celina Nathan deserved it!!! After he raped Eva so many times to an extent that she had a miscarriage at 14!!


AmyLouAldaMay Just to throw my own two cents in... I'm with Karen and Celina here... it was absolutely justified, and I could curl up into Gideon's side for the rest of my life and hereafter, and sleep perfectly sound. It makes not two shits difference to me. Especially since I've seen how much self-control he has in every other aspect, and how much love he has for Eva. Nope... murderer he may be, but I sleep just fine at night.


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Stephanie ON a side note you shouldn't give away spoilers in the Subject line where ppl who haven't got that far in the series can see it!!!


Celina Sorry Stephanie about the spoiler!!!


Czasper : I totally agree with Debbie. It's how the story goes.


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Jennifer Hahahahahahaha! Who reads romance novels from a moral high ground?! Yes, I'm ok with a hero that murders. I'm ok with a hero that embezzles. I'm ok with a fictional character pretty much doing anything. It's entertainment, y'all.


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Lisa Gideon did for Eva what no one did for him.. #1 he believed her, she was a victim of abuse and not responsible for what was done to her. This was something that never come to pass for him until Eva came into his life. #2 Gideon had to deal with the abuse that was inflicted on him by himself..his mother didn't want to face the truth and because of that Gideon was seen as a problem child not a child with a problem and so he lived his life defensively. Yes, Gideon committed murder but he murdered a criminal a criminal that took his beloveds innocence and was working on taking her life. I thought Gideon murdering the Ass-hat was a good twist and how the evidence ended up on another criminal was worked into the story well. No one innocent was blamed or was hurt and I thought that is what made Gideon a hero... In a book Romance anything goes when it comes to saving the one you love.


message 15: by DW4 (new) - rated it 5 stars

DW4 You got it Lisa - the only thing I'd query is that Eva was the first to believe Gideon - I got the impression from his inter-action with Angus that Angus knew what had happened so believed him? Their exact relationship and what Angus did is not explained and its just hints that Angus rescued him, a bit like the hints I think were there that Gideon saw his dad after he had shot himself (Gideon did not want Eva to see her mother after the shooting which to me was a hint that he had experience of what she was likely to see and this would be what he had spent the first few sessions discussing with Dr Peterson.


message 16: by alexa (last edited Aug 25, 2017 12:42AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

alexa Gudrun wrote: "What astonishes me most is the fact that no reader who claims Gideon as best book-boyfriend ever comments the fact that he committed a murder and got away with it because he had the means to supply..."

Yeah, I'm sorry, but when the victim of the murder is a brutal rapist and pedophile, I don't really feel bad or like it wasn't justified so I am definitely okay with that. Sure, it's scary that people have the means to get away with shit like this, but in this case, I'm glad. Every rapist should die. I think you should work on your black and white view of the world.


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Bonnie Henry I feel like is was premeditated self defense. The police stated that her brother was going to kill her eventually.


Lourdes A murderer is not hot and its not romantic. Big no no. Christian Grey continues to be my favorite.


Imane well I feel perfectly ok about Gideron killing that piece of s**t that is Nathan.
First he raped her continually for 4 years until she had miscarriage to be discoverd, then he stalked her ( had thing of her from her trash as the agent said) , he went to where she works, she even showed Gideon the photos and videos (maybe to make him leave Eva) , assaulted Cary and was sure as hell going to kill her at the end because of his obsession with her.
So a Gideon knew that his death is the only thing that could protect REALLY Eva and did it knowing it will morally torn him more than he is.
Nathan deserve to be killed, he was a monster who hurted a young girl and came back to hurt the woman she became. so good riddance


Lavender Wangu Gerda wrote: "What astonishes me most is the fact that no reader who claims Gideon as best book-boyfriend ever comments the fact that he committed a murder and got away with it because he had the means to supply..."

Well, hence the endearment I would kill for you. duh!


message 21: by Bonnie (last edited Apr 22, 2021 11:46PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Bonnie I did not feel that this was an issue at all...that sadistic piece of sh*t Nathan deserved it after ruining Evas childhood and adult life by raping her repeatedly!
On the contrary I found it so hot that Gideon was willing to risk everything he had and all that he built, just to make sure Eva was safe. Im not saying I think its hot he committed a murder (absolutely not) but apparently that was what needed to be done since it was obvious that Nathan wouldn't stop until he killed Eva.


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