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message 1: by Madison (last edited Mar 20, 2016 09:02AM) (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
This is the folder to let everyone learn a little about you and why you joined the group. Please post your intro as a topic rather than responding to this topic. Here's my introduction:

In school, I was the kid who understood Shakespeare right from the start. I love watching various productions of his plays. I try to go to at least one Shakespeare play a year.

I called the group Beyond The Hollow Crown because I've found many people who like Shakespeare in The Hollow Crown and Tom Hiddleston fan groups. I thought it would be really interesting to get different views on the plays. This group will give me a reason to read the plays either again, or for the first time. I'm also interested in going beyond the plays and discover what Shakespeare related books are out there.


message 2: by Linda R, (new)

Linda R, Since it has been a goal of mine to read all of Shakespeare's play and I've only got through about 10 so far, this looked like an interesting idea. I like reading them alphabetically. Why not? I'll start All's Well that End's Well tonight and look forward to reading your posts. It's more fun when we can talk about it. And I met Madison in a writing class online. She is awesome.


message 3: by Madison (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
Thanks Linda. Welcome to the group.

You're right, things are better when we talk!

As for reading the plays alphabetically, someone has suggested that we read the Richards and the Henrys in chronological order. I must say I like the idea. The original Hollow Crown put Richard II, Henry IV parts 1 and 2, and Henry V together and it was nice to see the flow from one play into another. Something to think about when we get to the Hs.

If anyone has any preferences or ideas, I'd love to hear them.


message 4: by Linda R, (new)

Linda R, It makes sense to read the historicals in order of time. But I am quite agreeable to any method others prefer. I'm still finding time to read the first Act now and will make comments later. I like your questions Madison. Helps to keep the focus on what we're reading.


message 5: by Madison (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
The more I think about reading the Henrys and the Richards in order the more I like it so, if no on objects, that's what we're going to do.


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

Hello - I am Tansy from Aus.... I am a writer, librarian and lover of Shakespeare.

After seeing the Tom Hiddleston played the part of Coriolanus and not knowing whether I could find it (I did) and read that play in 5 days. I am now onto Hamlet (as I have seen the David Tennant 2009 show) and then I am not sure.

I want to do the War of the Roses but not sure.


I graduated my library service course and as a grad present my parents bought me miniture shakespeare complete set that is 112 years old.


message 7: by Linda R, (new)

Linda R, Hello Tansy. Welcome aboard.


message 8: by Madison (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
Welcome Tansy.

I didn't enjoy reading Coriolanus but I did enjoy watching the Tom Hiddleston version.

That's a great gift you got from your parents.


message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah I can understand that... some people need the play to be able to understand how it comes across if you know what I mean... no offence intended.


message 10: by Linda R, (last edited May 12, 2016 11:49PM) (new)

Linda R, I just finished reading the Pulitzer Prize winning novel
The Magnificent Ambersons. I caught the references in the book to Hamlet but what I didn't know, until I read the commentary on the book, is that the main character mirrors some of his characteristics from Coriolanus.

I may have to read that play now and compare it to Hamlet, which I have read. Do either of you two see any correlations between the themes in Hamlet and Coriolanus?


message 11: by Madison (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
Tansy wrote: "Yeah I can understand that... some people need the play to be able to understand how it comes across if you know what I mean... no offence intended."

What I was getting at was that, when reading the play, I didn't like Coriolanus. I couldn't relate to him. When I saw the play performed I got a lot of new information from tone of voice, facial expressions, body language from the actor playing Coriolanus and the other actors. This added information made me understand Coriolanus more and I found myself a little sad for the way it all ended.


message 12: by Madison (new)

Madison (madison1964) | 59 comments Mod
Linda R, wrote: "I just finished reading the Pulitzer Prize winning novel
The Magnificent Ambersons. I caught the references in the book to Hamlet but what I didn't know, until I read the commentary ..."


I really don't see any similarities between the characters of Hamlet and Coriolanus. Are you sure they didn't mean a character from The Magnificent Ambersons had qualities of Coriolanus?

Hamlet is a young man adrift in self doubt. Coriolanus is an older, no nonsense soldier, he knows his place in society and he is very good at it. There's never a moment's hesitation in him.

The only similarities I can think of between the plays is that both main characters seek revenge.


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

Madison wrote: "Tansy wrote: "Yeah I can understand that... some people need the play to be able to understand how it comes across if you know what I mean... no offence intended."

What I was getting at was that, ..."


Ah ok no worries.... :) Didn't mean any offence


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