The Not a Book Club Club discussion

The Spider's War (The Dagger and the Coin, #5)
This topic is about The Spider's War
26 views
The Dagger and Coin > TSW: Section 1: Prologue - 3rd Geder

Comments Showing 1-12 of 12 (12 new)    post a comment »
dateUp arrow    newest »

message 1: by Lindsay (last edited Mar 08, 2016 08:44PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lindsay | 546 comments Please keep all discussion to the events and speculation from this section. Please do not discuss events from later chapters. Referring back to events from a previous section/book is fine.

No spoiler tags required. Though it would be highly appreciated if you uncheck "Add to my Update Feed" to avoid accidentally spoiling this for your goodreads friends.

This section covers Prologue: The Second Apostate through to the 3rd Geder chapter. The first sentences of the section are:

The heart of the goddess, her new temple—her true temple—had neither the grandeur of the cities nor the simple dignity of the Sinir Kushku. In Camnipol, it was said that her banner hung from the great tower of the Kingspire, goddess and throne made one.


message 2: by Rob, Mayor of Ghost Town (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
Not quite done with this section yet, but close. I'm finding the start a bit slow. It feels like pieces are largely being moved around right now, but maybe it's just the amount of time since I read book 4.

I did really enjoy that Entr’acte: Borja chapter though. I kept thinking: This guard should have put in his wax or the spider priests will make him do their bidding. Then bam there's a spider priest. Good thing his boss showed up to check on things and take care of the problem. I bet he'll have the wax next time he has to check blood. Assuming his boss doesn't reassign him to latrine duty instead.

Gedar continues to exemplify the quote "Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story."

He keeps thinking he's doing right by the kingdom and Aster, then he orders the murder of innocent children...


Scott (thekeeblertree) | 1049 comments Yeah, beginning has been pretty slow but I never seem to mind with Abraham's work. Even if it's slow, I'm still enjoying the set up and this one feels like it's building to a kick ass conclusion.

And just when you think Geder can't possibly be more awful, he murders a bunch of kids. Really wonder if there will ever come a point when he self reflects and realizes what he's done. Or if he just continues seeing himself as hero/savior. Think there may come a point when Aster turns on him, maybe then he'll see

Really enjoying those breaks too like the one at Borja. Good to get to see another POV from a different part of the world


Justine (justine_ao) Geder: "I think there might be something wrong with me."

If only he could actually hold on to that feeling. It's been like this from the beginning though, every time he feels doubt or guilt that is totally legitimate, instead of trusting that feeling he does whatever he can to bury it.


message 5: by Rob, Mayor of Ghost Town (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rob (robzak) | 6375 comments Mod
I laughed out loud when he said that. Poor Sabriel.


Justine (justine_ao) Yes, what is she supposed to say? Have some tea?


Scott (thekeeblertree) | 1049 comments Lol. Not for the first time, I wanted to slap him.


message 8: by Teanka (last edited Mar 18, 2016 03:41AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Teanka | 134 comments I'd like to read more scenes with Inys in it. They are my favourite (dragons are pretty much always awesome and witty anyway).
It is slow, but consistent with the previous books.


Suzanne | 1582 comments Yeah Geder....he can be so very sympathetic....and then not. Wow that killing of the children was chilling.

I really liked Clara's departure from her son too (before she rode away on the dragon)- just a small scene, but very realistic I think.

Cithrin is right - fighting to eliminate war is a lot harder than just winning.

I'd like to read more scenes with Inys too. I love how Marcus interacts with him and is so brutally honest about the self-pity, etc.


message 10: by Bill (new) - rated it 5 stars

Bill | 1596 comments Justine wrote: "Geder: "I think there might be something wrong with me."

If only he could actually hold on to that feeling. It's been like this from the beginning though, every time he feels doubt or guilt that i..."


This also made me laugh. So delusional. I wonder if you start to build an immunity to the spider web priests and if this is happening to Gedar. I haven't wished for a horrible ending for a character this much in a long time.


message 11: by Lori (last edited Mar 17, 2016 09:29PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lori | 63 comments Finally got my library copy!

Ugh Geder, one minute I want him to die a horribly painful death, the next I feel sorry for him, then back to hate in one page. But it's Barathus I just despise, he repr dents all the religious and self-righteous ass holes.

The ear plug section was great comic relief.

I too found it slow but I just finished City of Blades which had a very exciting end but the scene with Inys finally hooked me in.


Suzanne | 1582 comments I feel the same about Geder - I really feel sympathetic then...not. He's just so well written.


back to top