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LENA wrote: "Why doesn't Melisandre send this evil shadow son of Stanis to kill Joffrey??"
I like that idea. Anything to get rid of Joeffrey
I like that idea. Anything to get rid of Joeffrey


Great idea!!

If people are... lesser born? (not noble), do they not have last names at all? Davos refers to himself from before being knighted simply as Davos of Flea Bottom.
Not gonna lie... totally skimmed this chapter. Ship battles are even more boring to read than battles on land....
"The mouth of the Blackwater Rush had turned into the mouth of hell."

Even if they hadn't send Melisandre away, I don't think Stannis would want to win this battle with magic. He's too righteous for that, so I'm pretty sure using the shadows is a last resort to him. Killing Renly and the knight who was keeping Storm's End (forgot his name) was simply a means to an end for him and that end is killing Joffrey. By using the shadows, he was able to keep all his soldiers alive and gain quite a few new ones. Besides, if Joffrey dies, that doesn't necessarily mean the throne goes to Stannis. There's still Tommen and Myrcella, not to mention Cersei and Tyrion. Besides, the people would have to see him win if they are to accept him as their ruler.
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If people are... lesser born? (not noble), do they not have last names at all? Davos refers to himself from before being knighted simply as Davos of Flea Bottom."
I think so, yeah.

I think so, yeah."
Isn't Davos' last name Seaworth?
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