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message 101: by Alicia (new)

Alicia Ehrhardt (aliciabutcherehrhardt) | 4845 comments Jim wrote: "Tim wrote: "Round here, people just laugh and say, "Self published? You're not a real author." :("

but strangely they don't say that when there's a paperback"


Really? The paper version is really easy to put together - you need a pdf of the cover, a pdf of the interior, and Createspace does the rest.

For us traditionalists (who still love ebooks), holding a heavy book in our hands has some kind of symbolic value. I can show it to people. Their eyes do show some respect (not that they would buy a copy - MUCH more expensive than ebooks - all those dead tress, you know).

But I love mine.


message 102: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Alicia wrote: "Really? The paper version is really easy to put together - you need a pdf of the cover, a pdf of the interior, and Createspace does the rest...."


I've wondered about it as well. One thought is that people look at it and decide that because it's paperback somebody has decided the book is good enough to warrant the extra expense of making it hard copy?
I don't know


message 103: by Tim (last edited Feb 11, 2016 12:56AM) (new)

Tim | 8539 comments If it wasn't for the international postage, it'd actually be cheaper to do a Createspace edition for proofing than printing the darn thing out!


G J (Gaff to my friends) Reilly | 1836 comments My only issue with Createspace is that the paperbacks are so damned expensive to buy from Amazon. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to pay upwards of £7 for a paperback, when a) they've never heard of me and b) they can download both books in the series so far for less than half the price of 1 p.b.

I know the point is to order a batch in and peddle 'em like crazy myself, and it's probably cheaper that way, but it's the cost to break even that's prohibitive. Still, it seems to work okay for some.


message 105: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments I went the create space route because I wanted my own books on my shelf. I'm surprised I've sold any over and above that with the cost of them.


message 106: by Tim (last edited Feb 11, 2016 01:24AM) (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Mine's set to the cheapest price Createspace would allow, but that's still £11 (over 430 pages even at 6x9), so really no chance anyone's going to buy it.


message 107: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Yeh, Alloria is 440 pages at 5x8. At £10 I make 50p per sale, which is no big deal really. I believe main stream authors make about that with each paperback, though obviously they're not £10 to begin with.


message 108: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments Tim wrote: "If it wasn't for the international postage, it'd actually be cheaper to do a Createspace edition for proofing than printing the darn thing out!"

Jonathan and I do that. I find it's worth it.


message 109: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments David wrote: "Yeh, Alloria is 440 pages at 5x8. At £10 I make 50p per sale, which is no big deal really. I believe main stream authors make about that with each paperback, though obviously they're not £10 to beg..."

BUT . . . I got a free copy of The Martian paperback (movie tie in cover) with the DVD. £7.99 (£8) cover price. it's 370 pages, tiny writing and rubbish paper. On a price per page basis, scaled up to 430 pages, that'd still be £9.30.


message 110: by Pam (new)

Pam Baddeley | 3336 comments David wrote: "With the help of a listing on Bookbub, I was recently amazed to see my novel Imperfect Strangers enter the top 100 UK paid Kindle chart, where it peaked at number 76. I don’t mind s..."

I wondered if this site might be useful (haven't published yet myself) - Sales Rank Express.


message 111: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Mure (nancymure) | 11 comments Wow. That's a feat. I mean getting on Bookbub isn't easy!


message 112: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Pam wrote: "I wondered if this site might be useful (haven't published yet myself) - Sales Rank Express. . ..."


Looked at that and dishearted myself. In the US I have 17 reviews on seven books :-(


message 113: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Nancy wrote: "Wow. That's a feat. I mean getting on Bookbub isn't easy!"

Thanks, Nancy. It did take a year of trying to be accepted by Bookbub, and then it was only for UK listing.

Moral: if at first you don't succeed, try and try again :~)


message 114: by Jim (last edited Feb 14, 2016 01:41AM) (new)

Jim | 21813 comments Came across this graph, it perhaps gives an idea of how many daily US sales you need to get into top 100 on .com

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message 115: by Pete (new)

Pete Carter (petecarter) | 522 comments Tim wrote: "If it wasn't for the international postage, it'd actually be cheaper to do a Createspace edition for proofing than printing the darn thing out!"

I buy mine from Createspace in batches of 5, making unit cost about £3.50. Trouble is, I end up giving them away, never tried to sell them! Amazon uk want £9+postage for the same book!


message 116: by Rosen (new)

Rosen Trevithick (rosentrevithick) | 2272 comments I don't think it's a case of 'How many sales?' but rather 'What distribution of sales?' Although a sudden injection of sales can get you into the charts, I think the algorithms prefer a steady flow of sales in order to stay there.


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