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Is a Book Title Important?


Don't save money on editor and designer, and put some energy, love and thinking into the title. :-))


AMEN!!!....:-)))

In fact, even more so to someone like me. I can't just look at the cover of a book, so my first impression of your book is always the title.

And when I go thru all the books I've bought at Amazon I recognize the ones I've already read by the cover art, unless I have made a real effort to remember an author's name. I'm sure there are many books I haven't added to my Read list because the cover has been changed over the years and I don't know it anymore. (It's like an old friend with a facelift.)



But what about the title of book..."
A good title is EVERYTHING! It can make or break a book, in my humble opinion. I've published 9 novels and only 1 came out with the original title I gave it. The others were changed by my editor--with my input--at the request of the sales department. The latest scoop: for mainstream fiction, publishers want a PERSON in the title. Examples: The Girl on the Train, The Aviator's Wife, My Name is Lucy Barton, and the ever popular, Two Sisters. :)


Then, of course, it's up to the writer and the writing and the STORY to keep you engaged."
That's my point. I don't think that's what it's all about. I think these things are far less important than they are given weight. I think Amazon featured books (what I would consider quality promotion) get far more looks than pretty book covers with clever titles buried on the site. You can be as clever and design conscious as you want, but if the book is not front of people for them to look at, it doesn't mean much.


Julie

Lyn,
Which title did you prefer?
Julie

Yes, I liked that one too. But I also liked No Place of Safety. It's difficult.
J

I'll use my own struggles as an illustration of how not to pick a title, followed by one that worked out (at least for me):
I had a similar problem with one of my books. I write SciFi, so the title had to reflect that. I wrote it with a working title of Phoenix which suffered from several problems, the two biggest being that 1. it was too general and 2. Everyone and his grandma had written a book with that title or variations.
Soooo, I published it as, The Eighth Day. Well, that's kinda Sci Fi and it reflected the book's post-disaster theme, but it also made it sound like it might be a preachy Christian story. Sales were less than stellar.
Sooooo, I made a BIG mistake and asked the members of my writer's workshop (Science Fiction Novelists http://sfnovelist.com/) for ideas. They came up with several ideas and we finally settled on Children of Destruction. Sales picked up, but I still don't like the title. That's what you get for getting a committee to make your decisions for you.
For my latest, I decided to "roll my own" and I think that Last Train from Earth pretty well encapsulates the story, tells the shopper that it's SciFi, and isn't used by anyone else. And sales were better than "Children"s numbers.

Good one. Titles are important in what they don't imply - if you title your historical non-fiction as 'Lord Danther's Revenge,' and it isn't a Romance, you are going to attract readers you will disappoint.
My debut novel started out with the working title of 'Resurrection!' because the main character basically comes back to life after many bad things happen, but there are way too many SF books with that as a title or subtitle, and it signals the wrong kind of story.
From there it went to 'Children of Pride,' a phrase from the Bible that captures the story, and finally ended up at Pride's Children because that could be interpreted as either Children of Prides or Children of The Pride (referencing lions), and both are contained in the book's theme.
Many readers of course won't identify the phrase, but in the last chapter epigraphs, I quote the original biblical source (The Book of Job in the Old Testament), and if you come on it just right, people have told me, you get a spine-tingling feeling that you now know what the book's title means. And I like that effect.
And Pride is one of the 7 deadly sins. Also relevant.
Of course, from the time I created the title that way (and checked it on Amazon), to the time when I finally published (almost ten years later), things had changed: I now found Pride's Children listed as the title of a novel of two married gay men adopting two children (which makes sense).
Since we're different enough in every way, I kept my title. But it did make me chuckle.


An excellent thought - except the epigraph really doesn't make sense until you get close to the end, so a reader would have to remember it a long time. There are other quotations from the Book of Job before that last one, other biblical ones, poetry, news sources...
Plus I have a very specific and short (145 words) prologue, and most readers are still under the influence of that, and almost don't see the epigraphs in Chapter 1.
Readers who like the book usually like my epigraphs - they're actually a part of the story: the commentary of the outside world on what the story is (often getting is quite wrong). Other people don't like epigraphs. But this is my book, they belong there, and I figured something that was that controversial (I posted live as I wrote the final version, on my blog and Wattpad) had value, so they stay.
MY favorite books - Dune, Dorothy Sayers mysteries - have epigraphs, though of a different kind. Herbert's are backstory, slipped in easily as quotations from 'references' he invented; Sayers' are usually classical and poetry.
I'm not going to be able to write that many books (late starter) - I'm one of those very slow writers - so I try to put in what I want to read later, when I'm in the nursing home.
By the way, the books page here has a preview sample of the first three chapters, so you can see for yourself what you think of what I did.

I'm glad you liked the title they picked for your book. Phew!
Titles are so short - it's like the most extreme form of advertising - and not every reader will get what you're trying to convey. But it is good that authors think about them.
I still remember reading that 'Gone With the Wind' was originally titled 'Tomorrow is Another Day.' Eek!



It is helpful to be able to at least read the title, and maybe see a bit of the image. Amazon uses the thumbnails in lists and in also-boughts.
Here's mine as an example. My cover mentor insisted I make things legible at that size (she didn't care about my name - I'm an unknown beginner).


Sorry. I check it both on my giant TV monitor and my MacBook w/retina display, and I can't see the title on either, and only the capitals on your name on the left one. I can't make out the image on the left (there's a man, and two women...). The image of the one on the right looks like a tapeworm.
I'm sure I'm not the best one to say, and it really isn't my business to point this stuff out, but I can't read your covers. I'm sure they're lovely at a bigger size.

I write mainly contemporary romance and many of the 'tropes' I use can be termed category-type, and it always struck me that category books, whether they be from Harlequin, Entangled, and lately Tule Publishing, have very explicit titles even if they can sound cliché or cheesy (Sheikh's Revenge Bride or something like that).
So it got me thinking. A lot of my books are with an epublisher right now, and I'm planning to get my rights back and then self-publish them, and I'm thinking of changing the titles on some of them. For example, Calling Home is a category-style story about a rational-type forensic pathologist who suddenly finds herself the guardian of a 12 yr old girl and there's this cute doctor next door who helps her out and makes her see what loving and living are truly about. I titled it Calling Home because that's what the heroine was doing, and since they're both doctors, it was a play on the fact that doctors make house calls. But now I think it isn't really working for the story, and I'm thinking of re-titling it 'The Doctor's Orders For Love' or something along those lines, that will reflect the category-style trope and feel.
So all in all, it's pretty much a hit and miss game, especially when you're indie :)

The one on the left, I can't make out the title at first glance even in the 'big' image, and the cover is also very crowded. It might display better if your title were bigger and the red gets lost in the backdrop. Maybe with a harder drop shadow under the title made bigger, it would stand out more (btw, I am also a cover designer)


Thanks, K.P! :) It is actually a cute romance, rather light in tone, a romantic comedy, in short.

The space "ship" is a "train" with "cars" attached to the "engine". Not my design, but I will admit the title can be blamed on me. Here it is in a larger size:


BTW, the "balance" looks fine to me. I don't see the problem. Will the average shopper see a problem (other than the contrast problem with the title)?


The space "ship" is a "train" with "cars" attac..."
Due to the colors, maybe try to switch the 'silver' title with your 'white' name. Title on the bottom may not be common, but it has been done. It will take up more of the empty black area as well.
I'm a visual person /prior interior designer/, I would have to see it. But from what I can tell, your white name would still be visible and match the clouds. :-))

Haha, I didn't even think of it. :-))
Maybe cut him some slack, he needed help. :-))

One of the most difficult things for a designer to deal with is . . . author/customer input beyond the very basics. The designer designs, and when the client wants this or that, it oftens ends up in a subpar end result.
I thought the first book was about an LDS polygamist cult, until I noticed the fire-breathing dragon.
The other works for me, love the title and the space ship, but the ship needs to be moved closer to the planet and the book title brought down into the black. That should be easy to do.
Is this a series? I'm guessing not based on the two covers.
Hugs
Zip

Is this a series? I'm guessing not based on the two covers...."
The second book is part of a series. The first is stand-alone. I'll try the title/author swap suggested by Mimi to see if it works.
This thread is about title and we've gotten sidetracked with artwork, but 1. seeing the title is important if the title is important 2. The title IS important.
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Side comment/question: the title should be brief????
How about tag lines on the cover???


I like your title - Last Train from Earth is a great title. The font is appropriately SF.
I just can't see it until the cover gets blown up to a lot larger than thumbnail size.
There are many ways to make text stand out from background - a subtle, one-color cloud around the letters can help. Feathered to it is almost solid next to the letters, and then fading away to join the background a few pixels away.
As far as hijacking a thread, not a problem for me - but you could have just made it about what you wanted - feedback - from the beginning. If people don't like what you write, they write back - or just don't participate. What's so hard about that?

I made some changes in the title's position (as suggested) and lightened it up a bit and it works better (THANKS everyone!). I'll send it to my publisher for their consideration.
I like Lyn's discussion on titles. I have a 4-word limit, but it's kinda loose. The next book in the series will be "God's Assassin" (which someone stole a year or so back after I was foolish enough to let it out). Now, that's the shortest title I've ever come up with outside of "Phoenix" (which was doomed from the beginning).
Lesson: Don't be like Al and blab your title before you're ready to promote.

Thanks. I learned it at my mother's knee -- or some other old joint. (her joke, not mine).
Denise wrote: "Titles are important, and something I’m struggling with regarding my current WIP. The title has to have some magnetism. A simple “Daisy Falls in Love” doesn’t do it for me. Sure, it might capture t..."
"Falling Daisy"
With a unique cover of daisies in the background: http://static2.bigstockphoto.com/thum...
But who knows, haha. Just the photographer in me tossing an idea out. :)
"Falling Daisy"
With a unique cover of daisies in the background: http://static2.bigstockphoto.com/thum...
But who knows, haha. Just the photographer in me tossing an idea out. :)




Titles are difficult for me to come up with at times. They almost always come after a 1st draft for me as well. Some of my works do not have a title yet, and its been a few years since I wrote them. I think a title should be fairly short and catchy, but I'm not always good at it. LoL.
Books mentioned in this topic
Pride's Children: Purgatory (other topics)Children of Destruction (other topics)
Last Train from Earth (other topics)
But what about the title of books? Does a Title need to be original and as clever as possible like the cover to which it sits on? Do we as readers judge a book based on a Title as well?
Personally I believe a title needs to be well thought, catchy and of course be an idea of what the basis of the story is about in some way. Do you ever find yourself taken by a books cover only to be taken back by its boring or cliche title? I ask these questions in similarity to judging a book by its cover and to ask the simple question, exactly how important is a books title?