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Same Book, More Than One Title
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Apr 29, 2017 02:10PM
Alien Love Life.: The Christine Joanna Hart Story. and In for the Kill: A True Story of Hunting Evil appear to be exactly the same book.
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Born Killers: Childhood Secrets of the World's Deadliest Serial Killers and How to Make a Serial Killer: The Twisted Development of Innocent Children into the World's Most Sadistic Murderers turn out to be the same book.
Selena's Secret: The Revealing Story Behind Her Tragic Death is also available as El secreto de Selena (Selena's Secret): La reveladora historia detrás su trágica muerte.
Frame-Up!: The Untold Story of Roscoe "Fatty" Arbuckle and Fatty: Untold Story of Roscoe Fatty Arbuckle by Andy Edmonds are the same book.
Romantic Violence: Memoirs of an American Skinhead, White American Youth: My Descent into America's Most Violent Hate Movement--and How I Got Out, Romantické násilie. Spoveď amerického skinheda and Suástica Yankee all appear to be exactly the same book. It must be selling like hotcakes to have 4 different titles already!
A Passing Acquaintance and The Chicago Killer appear to be exactly the same book. Please note that The Chicago Killer is an updated edition with two extra chapters tacked on.
I was all excited there for a minute, thinking I could make a separate shelf for William Cook because I'd found a second book about it. Fond hope, too quickly banish'd -- Mosser Massacre: The Southwest's Greatest Manhunt is a re-release of Born to Kill.
I'm too lazy to read over the whole discussion to know for sure, but I think it was news to me just now that Internet Slave Master and Depraved by John Glatt are the same book.
Serial Killer in Ford County, Hollman: The Second H.H. Holmes: The Story of Serial Killer Frederick Hollman and Final Doom: The Frederick Hollman Story by Kevin Scott Collier are all the same book.EDIT: Serial Killer from Grand Haven is yet another title for this same blasted book.
I'm sure this has probably been discussed earlier in the thread, but why do these titles change? Like, why is the author/publisher/whoever changing the title of a book that's already been published under another name?
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In some cases it is because the book is being released in another country. Sometimes when a book is reprinted the publisher thinks it might sell better with a different title.
The Real Lolita: The Kidnapping of Sally Horner and the Novel that Scandalized the World and Among The Wholesome Children: The Real-Life Abduction that Inspired Lolita by Susan Weinman are the same book.
Apologies if this is a duplicate post, but I just learned that Pretty Little Killers: The Truth Behind the Savage Murder of Skylar Neese and The Savage Murder of Skylar Neese are the same book.
Redemption: A Story of Sisterhood, Survival, and Finding Freedom Behind Bars and I Shot Daddy are the same book.
She Had No Enemies and The Girl Who Had No Enemies: And the Man Who Hated Women by Dennis Fleming are the same book.
Help Me: A Vulnerable Girl. A Dungeon Hell. A Staggering True Story of Survival and Buried Memories: Katie Beers' Story are the same book.
Looks as if The Meaning of our Tears: the True Story of the Lawson Family Murders, Christmas Day, 1929 and White Christmas-Bloody Christmas: Finally the True Story of the Lawson Family Murders of Christmas Day, 1929 are the same dang book.
When Angels Intervene to Save the Children and The Cokeville Miracle: When Angels Intervene are the same book.
This book The Knick-Knack Man is contained in its entirety within this book The Mutilator: Signature Serial Killers. So, if you read 'The Mutilator', you don't need to buy 'The Knick-Knack Man'.
Wow, that's good to know. Are there other whole books in there? Monsters of Weimar: The Stories of Fritz Haarmann and Peter Kurten is simply 2 earlier books between 1 set of covers...
No, I think that is the only one. Unfortunately, I ordered both books, not knowing this. sighs
Wait, what else is in there then? The Knick-Knack Man plus individual chapters on other mutilation murderers? Or even less than that? Is it just The Knick-Knack Man under a different title?
Here you go, Fishie. :)Contents:
*The history of signature serial killers around the world
*The Schoolgirl Strangler (Arnold Karl Sodeman)
*The Night Caller (Eric Edgar Cooke)
*The Granny Killer (John Wayne Glover)
*The Ordinary Monster (Peter Norris Dupas)
*The Mutilator (William McDonald)-(which is the book The Knick-Knack Man)
Whoa, Nelly -- all these cases have books written about them under those exact titles! Do all the sections have different authors? For instance, did WAYNE Monroe write the chapter called The Night Caller: The Eric Edgar Cooke Story?
More info for you, Fishie.Introduction by Paul B. Kidd
Thirteen years ago I was granted by NSW Corrective Services access to the mind of a serial killer, intending to write a book about him. I was then, and still am to this day, the only journalist to have ever been granted unlimited access to a living serial killer in Australia. The serial killer was William MacDonald, better known as the Mutilator, and I spent a year, on and off, working with him in jail, probing deep into his mind to try and discover why he committed his terrible crimes. MacDonald is in jail to this day and will never be released.
Given the unique opportunity of the project, I didn’t leave any stone unturned. My years of research stretched from Liverpool, England, where MacDonald — then known as Alan Ginsburg — was born into a wealthy Jewish family and grew up, to his prison cell in Cessnock Prison many years later. I uncovered startling facts about the case from once restricted Supreme Court Archive files, the Mutilator himself and from interviews with the legendary journalist Joe Morris who brought about the undoing of the Mutilator in the bizarre circumstances that became known worldwide as ‘The Case of the Walking Corpse’.
The murderous adventures of William MacDonald was first published in 2002 as The Knick-Knack Man. And now, for the many readers who may have missed out on this unique story the first time around, it is republished here as The Mutilator. It is true Australian crime just too extraordinary to miss.
And seeing as the Mutilator was the classic signature serial killer in that he left his mark on his victims so that police knew from one victim to the next that it was the same person, I’ve included here the stories of Australia’s other signature serial killers as well.
And given that signature serial killers are the best remembered throughout time, I’ve put together the history of signature serial killers around the world in a chapter that will tell you from the beginning everything you ever needed to know about the rarest form of serial killers in the world.
All of these stories you will find blood-curdling in the extreme. But that was the nature of the beasts police were dealing with — psychopaths who enjoyed what they did and left their handiwork for all to see as if it were their work of art. Some even taunted police daring them to catch them before they struck again. Not all of them were caught. Interestingly, there were no women signature serial killers.
The only thing that is certain about signature serial killers is that it will happen again somewhere in the world sooner or later. Let’s hope that from what investi- gators have learned already from the beasts in this book, they can identify the next Jack the Ripper, Son of Sam or Mutilator before many more innocent victims are murdered to satisfy their bizarre fantasies.
So hang on for the most bizarre crime story in Australia’s history—straight from the killer’s mouth as he told it to me.
Paul B. Kidd
Sydney, 2011
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Can't find this on Amazon.
Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Diane wrote: "This book The Knick-Knack Man is contained in its entirety within this book The Mutilator: Signature Serial Killers. So, if you read 'The Mutilator', you..."https://www.amazon.com/Mutilator-Sign...
https://www.amazon.com/Knick-Knack-Ma...
Fishface wrote: "Whoa, Nelly -- all these cases have books written about them under those exact titles! Do all the sections have different authors?"Nope, Paul B. Kidd is the only author in this book. One-half of the book is "The Mutilator", and the other half are the bits I listed in the 'Contents' in a previous post.
He could have made the effort to come up with original chapter titles!
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Not available for purchase.
Fishface wrote: "He could have made the effort to come up with original chapter titles!"Yeah, I felt pretty put out to find out that I had bought 2 books, when I only needed one! I see that he has a lot of books that probably 'overlap'. Don't think I'll be buying any more of his online, since I can't flip through 'em to see what's in there. For example:
Australia's Serial Killers: The Definitive History Of Serial Multicide In Australia
Paul B. Kidd's 50 Australian Crimes of the 20th Century
The Australian Crime File: A Best Of Collection Of Notorious True Crime Stories
Lady ♥ Belleza wrote: "Not available for purchase."When I looked 'em up, "The Mutilator" was free on Kindle, and "The Knick-Knack Man" was available (used) from two Amazon sellers (Thriftbooks and worldofbooksusa).
The House That Jack Built: Florence Maybrick & Jack the Ripper and Florence Maybrick and Jack the Ripper are the same book.
Toxic Rage: A Tale Of Murder In Tucson and Murder in the Old Pueblo: The True Story of the Brian Stidham Murder Case are the same book.
Bloodland: A Family Story of Oil, Greed and Murder on the Osage Reservation and The Deaths of Sybil Bolton: An American History are the same book. I thought I already posted thus but couldn't find the post...
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Must have been randomly deleting posts. Not that I would that, even when drunk ...... oh wait ......
I could have posted it at Shelfari, for all I know.
So are How the English Establishment Framed Stephen Ward and An Affair of State: The Profumo Case and the Framing of Stephen Ward.This case has its own shelf as of today. I thought we had one ages ago, but maybe (sigh) it was at Shelfari.
Are Death in Perugia: The Definitive Account of the Meredith Kercher Case from Her Murder to the Acquittal of Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox and A Death in Italy: The Definitive Account of the Amanda Knox Case the same book??
Diane wrote: "Are Death in Perugia: The Definitive Account of the Meredith Kercher Case from Her Murder to the Acquittal of Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox and [book:A Death in Italy: The Defi..."They certainly look like it.
Fishface wrote: "Diane wrote: "Are Death in Perugia: The Definitive Account of the Meredith Kercher Case from Her Murder to the Acquittal of Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox and [book:A Death in I..."Fishface wrote: "They certainly look like it."
Yeah, that's what I thought, too, and since I already own one of them, I didn't want to end up with two identical books!
I looked for, but could not find, evidence that I already posted the fact that Manson: The Unholy Trail of Charles and the Family: The Unholy Trail of Charlie and the Family and The Garbage People: The Trip to Helter Skelter and Beyond with Charlie Manson and the Family are the same book. I apologize if this is a duplicate post about duplicate book editions.
Fishface wrote: "I apologize if this is a duplicate post about duplicate book editions."
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