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My question relates to Roque. Was there ever a way for Darrow to salvage his "friendship" with Roque? I put friendship in quotes because unlike Sevro and eventually Mustang, Darrow never reveals his true nature to Roque. Darrow obviously cares for Roque and wants to protect him but that need to keep him at arms length feels like their undoing. I understood his bitterness at being drugged and kept out of the loop even though Darrow had the best of intentions. My issue is, why does Roque blame Lea's death on Darrow? I never saw that as Darrow's fault. Lea was an adult Gold, a soldier, and there are risks to every war. She chose her side and there were severe consequences. And is that really the pivotal moment where Roque decides he's done with Darrow? So much so that he's willing to choose the Jackal over Darrow? Or is that just one piece and the video footage and revelation that Darrow is a Red are really what polish him over?
Thanks! Sorry for the lengthy and wandering question. It's just something that's stuck with me.
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It was Darrow's fault. Roque would have died for Darrow...until he wouldn't
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Go for it
Pierce wrote: "Axiom wrote: "I might have missed the answer to this question in your AMA, but how many books have you written prior to Red Rising?"Six, all told."
Does having three successful published novels give you credibility to have your other six novels be published?
Meedah wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Brady wrote: "Towards the beginning of RR, before the plot really developed and before I got to know and love the characters, the thing that really drew me in was the r..."He is a slow reader. Now, he's still in RR, and Darrow is about to enter the Institute, He hasn't been throught the Passage yet. My husbands says: " You are making me read Harry Potter or what ? He going to Institute to learn magic ? Come the magic wand ! Sheesh ! "
-" Keep on reading Honey, the Institute is no Hogwarts...!"
Stacy wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Axiom wrote: "I might have missed the answer to this question in your AMA, but how many books have you written prior to Red Rising?"Six, all told."
Does having three successful pu..."
I sure hope so !
Hi! So I have a continuity question between Red Rising and Golden Son. At the end of RR one of the first things Augustus tells Darrow is "My wife is a beggar" to inform him that this is why he's been cheating to help his son. But in Golden Son we find out that Mustang and the Jackal's mother has passed away long before the Institute (I think). So was that a change you made between the books or does Augustus just have a third wife chilling somewhere while all hell breaks loose?
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Six, all told."
Does having three successful pu..."
Maybe, but I'd rather create new things. i've already got the catharsis of those stories out, you know?
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2 wives. One dead, one alive and unimportant. You'll find out more about them in MS
Hi Pierce, Is Roque's name a nod to The Shining? In RR (no comment about GS - we all evolve), he seems (comparatively!) innocent and kind enough that the Danny thing could perhaps work. Also. REDRUM.
best,
Anne
Pierce wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Hi! So I have a continuity question between Red Rising and Golden Son. At the end of RR one of the first things Augustus tellsDarrow is "My wife is a beggar" to inform him that this ..."Wait, was Nero married to both women simultaneously before his kids' mom died? And is he still married to the unimportant one?
This isn't a re-read for me, I just finished part II for the first time. I only began reading Red Rising 7 days ago, so I must love this or something to have spent almost all my free time reading these.My question is on Roque. He seems to have quite an affection for Tactus, despite the many flaws of the man. Considering Roque's philosophical nature, and his love of the softer Quinn. How can he have such affection towards the brute Tactus? A man guilty of raping a defenseless girl at the institute? Something Roque it seems would have despised and perhaps not have forgiven? Am I reading Roque's attitude too much from a Red's perspective, not a golds? Am I wrong? Or is Roque conveniently misplacing his love for Tactus to emphasise his changed attitude towards Darrow over the death of Quinn?
Those Oracles remind me of a scene in the old school Flash Gordon.. Timothy Daltons people must stick their arms in a tree stump with a really ugly pulsing scorpion thingy... It goes for the wrist .. Of course yours.. I imagine the leviathan movie with Ed Harris.. A fluid , iridescent meanace.. That whole Aja hearing his heartbeat .. Ahhhh... *bad pun* pulse pounding
Hey so I know you just finished Morning Star and I heard you are actually writing the script or screen play for the films just wondering if you'll continue writing novels in the future?
Pierce... Ragnar? Are we talking Bain, Juggarnaut or Hulk size?
I have a question about the slingBlade. It's called a reaper's scythe by the golds, which is something like this:
But Darrow description and Morning Stars's cover seems to be more that of a sickle, which is something like this:
So... what does it look like? It's more of a... bigger sickle, righto?
Pierce, first off I just want to apologize for embarrassing myself earlier by asking about Roque's betrayal due to "Lea's" death when she died back in Red Rising. I meant Quinn. However, after just finishing my re-read of Red Rising, I just want to say thank you for a fantastic series with incredibly complex characters and a fascinating dystopian world. It's so intricate and detailed that I kept catching things I missed the first time. Right now I'm mourning Pax, and I'm already missing Mustang and Darrow's growing relationship because I know what's coming in GS. However, I'm really excited to start re-reading GS because I'm hoping I'll have better insights with a little foreknowledge. I'll be watching Roque more closely as well as Fitchner. I'm pretty sure I'll be just as devastated by Darrow's early losses and his first encounter with Karnus, but I'm eager to watch Darrow use the razor against Cassius. Iron rain and Ragnar...can't wait.
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No. He remarried.
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I certainly will. Novels are my home.
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Haha! I've actually still not seen Flash Gordon, but my editor was obsessed and thought I was giving Flash a shout out. Still one of our favorite scenes.
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Imagine a gold like Darrow or Cassius to be Lebron James in physical makeup and imagine Ragnar to be like david batista but 7'8ish
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But Darrow description and Morning Stars's cover seems to be more that of a sickle..."
It's nearly identical to the Dothraki sword in Game of Thrones
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Thank you so much---and I fear the fault lies with me. I populated this world with an absurd amount of characters. It's definitely a strain to keep all of them straight on this side as well.
It's not necessarily logical why Roque blames Darrow for her death. But we're not logical when we're grieving are we? Roque is tired of seeing his friends die. He's not as mentally strong as Darrow---look at how the Golds respond to death through the examples of Cassius, and Roque. They make it about themselves. They weep and challenge people to combat and betray friends because they are still children--when Darrow came amongst them he was already a man. He'd lost his father, his wife, countless friends. He knew hardship. They did not. Their reactions to death, their hypocrisy is meant to demonstrate this
Pierce wrote: "It's nearly identical to the Dothraki sword in Game of Thrones "Great! That finally puts a clear image in my head, which fortunately is pretty much the same I already had.
Pierce wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Hi! So I have a continuity question between Red Rising and Golden Son. At the end of RR one of the first things Augustus tells Darrow is "My wife is a beggar" to inform him that this ..."Why two instead of three? I counted three and am now making all kinds of assumptions about why the first might not count or how he was never married to the mother of his children.
Hi Pierce,Thanks so much for answering my question. I have one more that I'm not sure you've answered before. I'm assuming people on this thread have read Golden Son and this won't be a spoiler but just in case: Spoilers Ahead.
I've seen you state which of Darrow's dead allies would have stuck with him after finding out the truth about him (Tactus, PAX, etc). But I didn't see anyone ask about one of my favorite characters. What about LORN?? Would he ever be on board with this revolution against golden rule? Would he have eventually turned on Darrow too?
Thanks again and I can't wait for Morning Star. Your books are awesome and un-put-down-able.
Hello Pierce, hello all! So in Golden Son, a couple of times throughout the book different characters sit and discuss Roque and the question that always seems to come up is how is it that he managed to end up in House Mars?
So I guess my question is their question: How did he end up in House Mars? What exactly did the proctors see in him that would make them choose him for that house?
Ah, the great question. Rogue almost told Darrow (GS, Ch44, pg 380) but got interrupted by Sevro. I don't think Pierce wanted us to know just yet. Perhaps we will find out in MS.
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Thanks so much for answering my question. I have one more that I'm not sure you've answered before. I'm assuming people on this thread have read Golden Son and this won't be a spoiler bu..."
To be honest, I do not know. Lorn believes in what the Society should have been. And that's a fundamental difference between Darrow and him. Perhaps a gulf that could never be bridged.
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So in Golden Son, a couple of times throughout the book different characters sit and discuss Roque and the question that always seems to come up is how is it that he mana..."
Perhaps the wrath inherent in his betrayal is exactly what they saw in him. Something horrible happened to Roque once upon a time. It changed him. Maybe you'll discover what it is, maybe you won't. Depends how closely you read.
How closely we read? That is an isanely provocative statement! The wait for Tuesday is bad enough! Maybe i should say deliciously provocative... Come on Tuesday!
This is not doing my anxiety issues about the upcoming book any good.
Pierce wrote: "Jenna wrote: "Hi Pierce,Thanks so much for answering my question. I have one more that I'm not sure you've answered before. I'm assuming people on this thread have read Golden Son and this won't b..."
Oh man, I guess it's for the best that you killed him off then! ;-) Looking forward to Morning Star!
And is that really the pivotal moment where Roque decides he's done with Darrow? So much so that he's willing to choose the Jackal over Darrow? Or is that just one piece and the video footage and revelation that Darrow is a Red are really what polish him over?
Thanks! Sorry for the lengthy and wandering question. It's just something that's stuck with me.