Ask Pierce Brown discussion
RED RISING Trilogy re-reads
>
GOLDEN SON re-read (HAS ENDED)
message 51:
by
Sara
(new)
Jan 13, 2016 09:59AM
"Julia au Bellona: haha she's quite the handful. I had a friend whose mother inspired me." Good Lord! She's REAL?! So, is your friend ok?
reply
|
flag
Colin wrote: "First off, phenomenal job Pierce! I have a question for you. Will Morning Star pick up immediately following where Golden Son ended ? Or will it be explained through flashbacks? I'm going crazy wa..."
You can see the first 3 chapters online, might sate some of your curiosity as to how it'll be written. It won't help with the anticipation, though. It's quite the cliffhanger =)
Pierce wrote: "Jillian wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Cole wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Cole wrote: "Whenever I get to certain parts where I know Darrow is making a bad decision I keep yelling (out loud in my room) "No don't d..."Yes, that's very true. I suppose I was thinking of tortured playwright Eugene O'Neil. Didn't mean to project the tortured writer stereotype on ya, Pierce. ;)
But you should know that the Jackal is a villain for the ages. Can't wait to see how that rat bastard gets his. Especially since I read the Morning Star excerpt.
Brady wrote: "Colin wrote: "First off, phenomenal job Pierce! I have a question for you. Will Morning Star pick up immediately following where Golden Son ended ? Or will it be explained through flashbacks? I'm ..."
Thanks for the tip! Quite the cliffhanger indeed. My jaw literally dropped into my lap. Next month can't come soon enough!
I have a question, oh mighty legend that is Pierce Brown......Did you outline or plan the Red Rising Trilogy? Or did you just start writing the books and let the plot develop naturally by itself?BEST SERIES EVER BTW!!!!!!!!!! Thank you SO MUCH for creating it <3
I have a question, oh mighty legend that is Pierce Brown......Did you outline or plan the Red Rising Trilogy? Or did you just start writing the books and let the plot develop naturally by itself?BEST SERIES EVER BTW!!!!!!!!!! Thank you SO MUCH for creating it <3
Hello. I really hope Pierce sees this. I'm currently on my seventh reread of the books, almost done with Golden Son. I plan to read them both again between this weekend and Feb 9th. I read ridiculously fast.I've wanted to ask this since the first time I read Red Rising, because I notice things subconsciously as I read that bother me throughout. I don't know if anyone has asked or pointed this out... but... did you originally want Imperator Bellona's name to be Demetrius? I mean, you call him Tiberius twice in Red Rising and then you call him Demetrius au Bellona on page 279. It's obvious this was an oversight in editing, but I've wondered about it.
Pierce, was it your intent to have Irish and English "voices" for your characters? Or was it a byproduct of the audiobook Narrator Tim Gerard Reynolds. I've got to believe it was intentional, and if so, Why? given you are American. It's a bold move. Given the caliber of this series, I shouldn't be surprised tho.
Darrow always had an Irish brogue in my imagination as I read him at the start of Red Rising. When he went Gold, I imagined him sounding like a blueblood English gentleman.
T.W. wrote: "Darrow always had an Irish brogue in my imagination as I read him at the start of Red Rising. When he went Gold, I imagined him sounding like a blueblood English gentleman."I had no expectations going in at the beginning. But I started with the audiobooks (scifi isn't my go-to genre), but I could see it no other way once I started. I bought the hard covers while still reading RR. Glancing at the text in the books at random, I couldn't see the "accents". So it made me wonder. I am going to re-read both books before MS comes out and this time I will pay more attention....barring any response to this question from Pierce. I'm glad I am not alone in my musings.
Hi Pierce! I was wondering if you could shed some more light on Pliny (that weasle) for us? I DO love to hate him. What's his history? I have a hard time seeing why any Gold, especially Nero, would respect him (obviously I'm a little biased, though). How did he climb the ladder to get where he is? What is it about Pliny that is so valuable to Nero? On a related note, do you enjoy creating villains?
Also, I opted for the audiobook this time through...can we just take a minute to admire Tim Gerard Reynolds?! He. Is. Fantastic.
Rochelle wrote: "Hi Pierce! I was wondering if you could shed some more light on Pliny (that weasle) for us? I DO love to hate him. What's his history? I have a hard time seeing why any Gold, especially Nero, would..."Everybody thinks so much about Tim Gerard Reynolds. I think I'm gonna go for the audio book for my third reading !
Mod
oh tortured is accurate
Mod
as well you should
Mod
Results. Pliny gets them. He's a little cretin, but he has marvelously efficient. He's from a Martian backwater city that deals mostly in fishing. Didn't have the funds or the sponsor to go to the Institute (not that he would have lasted or made it in). He eventually made it to Agea after his mother leveraged their funds and family business to pay for politico schooling for him. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to rise to prominence before she was killed by Syndicate debt collectors.
Mod
..."
I'm dreadful at outlining, so no. I had some of it in my head, the rest I shot from the hip. terribly stressful. I'll try to outline better next time
Pierce wrote: "Eimear wrote: "I have a question, oh mighty legend that is Pierce Brown......Did you outline or plan the Red Rising Trilogy? Or did you just start writing the books and let the plot develop natural..."THAT is extremely impressive.
Please don't outline then, it seems to have worked amazingly well for you so far!
Pierce wrote: "Eimear wrote: "I have a question, oh mighty legend that is Pierce Brown......Did you outline or plan the Red Rising Trilogy? Or did you just start writing the books and let the plot develop natural..."I hate outlining, and for that hate I receive endless, sanity-sapping stress as I wonder if the book I'm currently working on is an incoherent mess I will need to spend months editing before it's ready to be shipped off. I understand your pain man.
Pierce wrote: "Jillian wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Jillian wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Cole wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Cole wrote: "Whenever I get to certain parts where I know Darrow is making a bad decision I keep yelling (o...":hugs:
Thanks for the response! I hope I'm not being too greedy if I ask one more question. It is well known throughout the books that Darrow is quite haunted Eo. He seems very reluctant for things to move forward with Mustang for fear of betraying her and her memory. Some of the emotions he feels and situations he struggles with about this topic are described fabulously by you. I was wondering if their relationship was based upon reality? Maybe you or someone close to you had a relationship turn sour?
Mod
I hope I'm not being too greedy if I ask one more question. It is well known throughout the books that Darrow is quite haunted Eo. He seems very reluctant for things to mo..."
Every flower of fiction began as a seed of truth.
or something
Dearest Pierce, first of all, thanks for these amazing stories. Now, to the questions.1- Did you ever consider using real mature language instead of the made up insults that have become such a trademark (or cliché depending on your point of view) of YA novels? Why/Why not?
Personally, when I read those kind of insults, I feel the author is simply censoring himself to reach a wider audience, specially when the story has such mature themes as rape, prostitution and torture.
2- Has the Ender Saga been any inspiration to you at all? While the stories are largely different, the way Darrow treats Oranges, Blues and the rest of the colors remind me of the qualities that made Ender such a great leader.
Thanks for you time!
I have a question, when creating the character of Sevro did you intend for him to be pretty much everyone's favourite??? Cause I didn't know he was my favourite until I started Golden Son and I found myself asking every page "Where is Sevro?", calmly at first, less calmly and lady like as the chapters roll. So did you make this happen or did he gain our love with his charming and lovely personality??
Really enjoyed re-reading Red Rising, and I just finished re-reading Golden Son. It's amazing how many details you pick up on a second read.For Golden Son, the battle on the shuttle had stayed in my mind as the big finale scene. Of course that's definitely not the case! The final scene in the garden was so emotionally charged... but what hit me the hardest was Roque's betrayal. He has every reason to be angry with Darrow after all that's happened, but to join the Jackal in his monstrous plan, well that was... shocking.
Great job on the cliffhanger! I was thrilled to see the excerpt for Morning Star online - reading that calmed the nerves a bit. Now I can't wait to read the full novel. Only a few weeks to go!
Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of questions but I also have questions about Red Rising. Should I post them here ?"..."
Hi Pierce,
I was actually wondering about something similar. I understand why the general population has no knowledge of what the Institute is, but why does the children of the Peerless Scarred also appear ignorant? I mean why did the Bellonas not tell Cassius and Julian what to expect? Or do the Board of Quality Control test for any pre-knowledge on part of the applicants?
And by the way, I love your books!
Simon
SimonGN wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of questions but I also have questions about Red Rising. Should I pos..."This is a shot in the dark because I'm not the author, but I have an inkling: I think perhaps not even the children of Peerless Scarred know much about the Institute because on some level their parents are ashamed of the things they had to do in order to survive the Passage and the Institute.
Lorne wrote: "Really enjoyed re-reading Red Rising, and I just finished re-reading Golden Son. It's amazing how many details you pick up on a second read.For Golden Son, the battle on the shuttle had stayed in..."
Lorne wrote: "Really enjoyed re-reading Red Rising, and I just finished re-reading Golden Son. It's amazing how many details you pick up on a second read.
For Golden Son, the battle on the shuttle had stayed in..."
His betrayal hit me the hardest and i went back and forth trying to justify and understand and i get why he was angry. I know the main reason was Quinn death and when darrow drugged him but Darrow could only be faulted for one. Quinn chose to follow darrow as well as Roque, no one told him he HAD to join. I know it was hard for darrow to trust around the golds and he is at fault for pushing Roque away but even then if Roque knew the truth he wouldn't like it because he was too in love with his Color, he liked where he was at you know?
Darrow made plenty of mistakes who doesn't, i got so angry at Roque for blaming him for Tactus death, he was still bitter from Quinn dying but still. Darrow really tried we all know that, lol sorry for the long Ramble
I feel like it' all about choices which is why yes i get why Roque is angry but i don't agree with the way he want about it.
Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Brady wrote: "Towards the beginning of RR, before the plot really developed and before I got to know and love the characters, the thing that really drew me in was the rough, staccato..."Ahhh yes his writing in the series was Bloody amazing. And yes eevryone Evolves and it fits with each event that happened Ah your hubby missing out, because RR And GS was never in the YA Market
Sarah wrote: "SimonGN wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of questions but I also have questions about Red Risi..."But you don't think that a woman like Julia au Bellona would do anything to protect her beloved son, Julian? Wasn't it Karnus who said that they were all afraid when Julian got an invitation? Think about the tactical advantage you would have when you are locked up in that room, knowing before the other person that only one will survive so they could really have helped Julian by preparing him.
Simon wrote: "Sarah wrote: "SimonGN wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of questions but I also have questions ..."I think that the Peerless have completely bought into the process that selects them. They prepare their children as best they can with learning and training but ultimately they believe in the Institute's value in weeding out the weaker students, and it only really works if they don't know what's coming. The Institute finds out if they can cope and rise to leadership and power in the most extreme circumstances. That is what Peerless need to be able to do and they sacrifice some of their children willingly to find out who has what it takes.
Pierce, First of all, fantastic work. Your writing and intricate vernacular keeps me on my toes. Reading other novels feels like I'm reading children's books, thanks to you. What books would you recommend us to read as we eagerly await the arrival of Morning Star?
Denise wrote: "T.W. wrote: "Darrow always had an Irish brogue in my imagination as I read him at the start of Red Rising. When he went Gold, I imagined him sounding like a blueblood English gentleman."Kill me if I remember where, but it is mentioned in one of the books that the lowReds are descendants of Irish people.
T.W. wrote: "Denise wrote: "T.W. wrote: "Darrow always had an Irish brogue in my imagination as I read him at the start of Red Rising. When he went Gold, I imagined him sounding like a blueblood English gentlem..."It's in part IV Ruin of Golden Son.
Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Rochelle wrote: "Hi Pierce! I was wondering if you could shed some more light on Pliny (that weasle) for us? I DO love to hate him. What's his history? I have a hard time seeing why a..."Fascinating.. The little worm is my fave kind of villain though.. The back handed comments ... In the end .. Vindication or revenge settles it... Can't wait to find out how he goes down!
Okay. Don't hate me. But did anyone else notice that in PartIII Chapter 25: Tribal War in Red Rising, Darrow mentions he's with Roque when he comes upon the castle Titus turns into a hovel, but then it shifts randomly into him being with Cassius when they hear the Ceres girl being raped?Am I the only one who noticed these little inconsistencies?
Did I read this wrong? Was he with both Roque AND Cassius?
Pierce wrote: "Eimear wrote: "I have a question, oh mighty legend that is Pierce Brown......Did you outline or plan the Red Rising Trilogy? Or did you just start writing the books and let the plot develop natural..."I think you outlined in your head!
Stacy wrote: "Pierce, First of all, fantastic work. Your writing and intricate vernacular keeps me on my toes. Reading other novels feels like I'm reading children's books, thanks to you. What books would you ..."
Stacy, I so agree with you. The book after I finished MS was child's play in comparison. Is it possible to fall in love with a writing style? And can you marry it?
T.W. wrote: "Denise wrote: "T.W. wrote: "Darrow always had an Irish brogue in my imagination as I read him at the start of Red Rising. When he went Gold, I imagined him sounding like a blueblood English gentlem..."I thought I might have remembered something like that too. But I just started re-reading RR and am listening more closely this time. I am 5.5 hours into (Ch18) RR and haven't heard mention origin of language.
Janis wrote: "Simon wrote: "Sarah wrote: "SimonGN wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of questions but I also h..."Forgive me if my memory fails and this is explained somewhere in the books that I have overlooked... but perhaps the set up and nature of the Instituted change each year and that is why new recruits do not know what to expect and therefore cannot be forewarned by their parents? Not to compare these novels to the Hunger Games series in any way but pulling from that example, the games were different each and every year. Perhaps this is a similar situation? Any thoughts?
Hello Pierce. Has anyone asked, in Red Rising, where Roque was between the time Lea saw him fall in a ditch and the end, when he brings the Mars standard to Darrow? Where was he?
Tracy wrote: "Janis wrote: "Simon wrote: "Sarah wrote: "SimonGN wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "Pierce wrote: "Julie wrote: "I have started re-reading Golden Son , and I've already have a couple of question..."Peerlesd Scarred (or at least the highest-ranking) have access to footage of each year's Institute. This is how they find out whom they want to offer an apprenticeship and was a plot point in Red Rising. So they would be aware of how the Institute operated, even if some details change every year.
I might have missed the answer to this question in your AMA, but how many books have you written prior to Red Rising?
Mod
Six, all told.
Mod
1- Did you ever consider using real mature language instead of the made up insults that have become such a tr..."
True curse words are integrated. But I did consider only having them. Yet etymologically that seemed insincere with how language and words and cursing evolves. I'm writing from the perspective of someone in this far-flung society. Not a modern day human.
2.
Mod
Sevro was born on the page. He wasn't preconceived. But I knew when writing him that he was something special. His scenes are the easiest to write because he's saying what we're all thinking
Mod
Because they BELIEVE in the system. They BELIEVE in Gold. It's nearly religious in their culture.
Also, yes. The Board of Quality's interviews often weed out those who are told ahead of time...the punishment is severe
Mod
Agreed. Many servicemen and women never speak of the horrors they encountered.
Hey Pierce!! Just wanted to tell you I LOVE this series... Now for my question... I've read RR 3x now and am on GS for the 2nd time, since I know how GS ends, I can't help but to have noticed foreshadowing pointing to Roque abandoning Darrow... such as "his eyes being much colder than his smile" when he promised Darrow he wouldn't be drunk later on and when Darrow fails to catch Aja on Arcos... So my question is: was Roque always going to betray Darrow or was it really fully Darrow's fault that his friend abandoned him???
Can I post a burning question I have about Roque even though it doesn't play in until later in the novel?
Can I post a burning question I have about Roque even though it doesn't play in until later in the novel?
