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Jan 03, 2016 07:59AM
I am an avid reader of the new canon as I was with the E.U. in ancient days. My question for you is where do you draw the line with this new canon stuff? I am on board for the novels and even the Y.A. fiction. Twilight and The Hunger Games convinced me that there is quality in Y.A. What about the comic books? and the kiddie books. The completeist in me cries out for these, but I just don't think I can go jam to such deep tracks any more? What is your take?
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I am still slowly coming to terms with the fact the the most excellent Thrawn trilogy is never going to be made canon.Aside from that I've got the main adult novels, along with the novelisations of the movies (canon or not), in a chronological reading list for some time next year - or maybe the year after (too many books to read, not enough time).
I'm not sold on the idea of the YA books because they seem, even now, too numerous and sprawling in all sorts of directions. So that's were I'd draw the line. Comics, kiddies books, any thing else, no thanks.
If all I read was Star Wars then the completionist in might relent. But like I say, the wider reading list is currently too long to inundate it with a larger Star Wars universe. Hell the Dune books are pushing my tastes for a wider canon universe to the limits already.
I don't read kiddie books. Only someone who wants to write such books, need read them. I read the back cover of books, before deciding whether or not to buy and read them. I guess the answer to your question is, I stick to what I like, and only occasionally check out something new.
Hi, It's a difficult dilemma alright, especially with the path they are now taking in storytelling. If you stick to just adult novels it sounds like you are going to miss out on a lot. I normally just stick with the adult novels, that is until I heard great reviews about Lost Stars. The one comment that really caught my eye was, “The novel Aftermath should have been”
So far I’ve read Moving Target, Smuggler’s Run and The Weapon of a Jedi and really enjoyed all of them; they are great tie-in novels to The Force Awakens. I wouldn’t let the YA tag put you off, and if you really think about it all of the EU can be nearly classed as Adult/YA novels.
Also Claudia Gray has a new Star Wars novel out in May set six year before The Force Awakens. Not sure if it’s going to be billed as a YA novel, but it could be.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Re...
Mike wrote: "I am an avid reader of the new canon as I was with the E.U. in ancient days. My question for you is where do you draw the line with this new canon stuff? I am on board for the novels and even the Y..."Twilight teaches girls that its more important to have a boyfriend, even if he's emotionally abusive, than it is to be strong.
And as for the Hunger Games, don't get me started on my hatred of dystopia!
I propose we BAN all discussion of non-STAR WARS YA from STAR WARS boards.
this is a tough one.. as i found in 2014 when i finally completed all the Legacy EU so i could begin fresh with the new canon as S01 of Rebels started -there are only so many hours in the day.but.. if you are keen for the "whole" story, it is hard not to commit to the tie-in media. a great example is the TFA novelization. As a standalone, it was nothing epic, but as a companion to the movie it was perfect because it provided better explanations for some of what we saw on screen as well as gave glimpses at deleted scenes that again - helped explain the story - BUT only if you wanted that extra info.
This is a feature of the Star Wars Universe I have loved most of my life. It has appeal at all levels for everyone that wants to partake.
It is one of the few genres i know of that caters to every person's desire to enjoy. You can sit at the surface level with the movies and enjoy all that provides.. or you can dive as deep as you want for the fully immersive experience as per all the tie-in media, learn all the nuances and extra titbits that exist, but which are, for many, a level too far for what they want out of it. => but for that full immersion, be prepared for the heavy investment in time required..
I wouldn't have it any other way (for me personally).
I will absorb all that I can, because the movies only scratch the surface of one of the best genres i know (imo)
#mtfbwy
Agreed Peter. It is what I love and "hate" about it. The more I experience the deeper I want to get into the universe. What a wonderful problem to have!
Peter wrote: "...when i finally completed all the Legacy EU so i could begin fresh with the new canon as S01 of Rebels started...."Wow, hat's off to you, sir. I've read about 100 so far but still working my way through the New Jedi Order and Jedi Apprentice series (trying to read all in publication order). I do agree there is some value in YA-billed books. After all, the Young Jedi Knights and Junior Jedi Knights gave us excellent introductions to the next generation of heroes. And to boot, the YJK books I found to be very entertaining. (JJK was a bit insufferable.)
If a STAR WARS novel's title catches my eye, I'll read it at least once. Two key examples of this are https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... and https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8... which was the prequel to Death Troopers...despite the fact that I hate zombies.
It's very hard to draw line because there's different media (books, graphic novels, video games) and way too many authors.For example, the recent comic book releases, Shattered Empire, Obi Wan and Anakin and the Leia series are mostly irrelevant. If you don't read them, you arent' missing much compared to the Darth Vader and Lando mini series, where we actually have character development, new and important characters are introduced and some oldies are redesigned to better match the new continuity.
It's really about what sounds interesting to me. I never considered Tarkin a good character in the original movies, yet the book sounds appealing since we don't have much character backstory for him. Rebels, on the other hand, sounds very kid-friendly and has a simplistic good guys vs bad guys setting that I have outgrown and would be hardly tempted to read or watch.
Terry wrote: "I am still slowly coming to terms with the fact the the most excellent Thrawn trilogy is never going to be made canon.Aside from that I've got the main adult novels, along with the novelisations ..."
Not sure if you hears, but they're bringing Thrawn to "Rebels!" I was so excited to hear this news!
Dammit! I can't afford cable to see it!
Thrawn coming back is still a rumor. Here's the article/rumor mill: http://makingstarwars.net/2016/01/rum...
"I believe this is likely happening but until it does, consider it rumor, but a rumor with some weight to it."
It would be cool, but I'm skeptical until I see him in a preview.
Amber wrote: "Dammit! I can't afford cable to see it!"You can watch the first two seasons on animeflavor.me Season 3 will be added as it comes out.
I only get three hours a day, Monday-Saturday, online at the public library and no access on Sunday, so when would I FIND time to watch it at this animeflavor.me site, Bruce? Especially considering I have no internet access at home?
Just trying to be helpful. I didn't know your situation.
To get topic back on ... topic, I suppose you all saw by now: Thrawn is indeed back--he'll be in season 3 of Star Wars Rebels as well as a new novel by TZ: Star Wars: Thrawn. Woot!
I'll celebrate when I can get my hands on a copy of the Thrawn novel, since my circumstances prevent me from watching the show.
Checked out of Rebels early - thought it was juvenile and flat. However seeing one of my favorite villains come to life on the small screen may sway my opinion.....
Thrawn... one of the biggest stings of kicking the EU into Legacy, was the realisation that one of the most iconic bad guys from the entire Expanded-(yes..now-Legacy..)_Universe... was ditched from canon... and then Disney said they were considering bits of Legacy and how to introduce them into D-Canon ->
Mitth'raw'nuruodo is back on the table....
or is he?
he appears to fit the blue skinned red eyed white uniformed description...
I think it's a bold decision by Disney, and am sooo keen to see what they're plans are for him now by introducing so close to the opening salvoes of the Rebellion..
Does he survive Rebels and disappear back into the Unknown Regions (my personal hope...) so as to reenter the time line after RotJ & pre TFA? or maybe not till after TFA?
or will they use him as a one season baddie and remove him as Rebels syncs into Rogue One? & Ep IV?
so much potential... so many possibilites..
(quick! somoene shut down goldenrod before he tells us the odds!)
SO.. so excited for this!
(* ahh and tbh Rebels is not as Disney-kidified as the 1st season leaves you thinking... like clone wars, it is definitely darkening in it's tone....)
Jamie wrote: "Checked out of Rebels early - thought it was juvenile and flat. However seeing one of my favorite villains come to life on the small screen may sway my opinion....."When I first started watching it, I thought so too, but it has matured a great deal in season 2.
I may try it again now that Thrawn is in it. I have to say it is a great era in the saga.
One of the reasons Thrawn was one of my 2 favorite bad guys was that his deductive skills were modeled on Sherlock Holmes. Zahn admitted as much... .
I feel like my Star Wars reading has worked out ideally for me. I started reading book series like Young Jedi Knights, Junior Jedi Knights, Jedi Apprentice, and all those "kiddie" books when I was in elementary school, and then followed these characters as both they and I progressed into adulthood. I return to those books now occasionally for the nostalgia and because most of them have fun and/or interesting stories as well.
It's been interesting for example to follow where the stories took characters like Jacen, Jaina, Tenel Ka, Anakin, and Tahiri in series like NJO and Fate of the Jedi, and then return to the simpler times in series like Young Jedi Knights. Times were simpler for me back when I was first reading those as well, so I feel that connection to the stories.
I have also found that the shorter books like in the Jedi Apprentice series have been great for roping in friends who have interest in Star Wars but aren't really into reading. Audiobooks too.
