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Simon (Highwayman) (highwayman) | 4276 comments Did anyone watch the amazon programme on bbc2 tonight.

Very interesting. I remember IBM taking over the world so I am prepared to believe amazon is only temporary king of retail but it is a lot of power...


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Jim | 21809 comments Look what's happening to Tesco.
When something gets too much power not only does it turn people off them, but generally their competitors gang up to break them


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments A synopsis of the programme would be helpful to those of us without access to BBC 2, Simon.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Oh yeah. That works in Azerbaijan and the States, David.

Sheesh.


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Joo (jooo) | 1351 comments I'm halfway through watching it now.
It includes
The start up of Amazon including Bezos' first house/office
How they box things up and post things like rowing machines and Captain America costumes to John O Groats.
How they told a British online book store to join them or compete with them.
How it's the best thing since sliced bread for Marketplace sellers

And I know they talk to Nick Spalding after.


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David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Oh! I've always took those three 'W's literally. So, it's not literal then?


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R.M.F. Brown | 2124 comments Not a good company to work for. Great to buy from, terrible to work for.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Thanks Joo.

So, basically another programme showing how evil they are.

They must be doing something right, though.

Gawd knows they've taken enough of my money.


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Andy Elliott | 1446 comments R.M.F wrote: "Not a good company to work for. Great to buy from, terrible to work for."

A friend's younger sister worked for them over the summer and Christmas periods last year, in between terms of her nursing degree. She was amazed at how much the staff complained about having to do such an untaxing job with few responsibilities that was relatively well paid. I guess her perspective was different to theirs after nearly three years of lugging patients around and emptying bedpans, as she saw working there as a relaxing holiday in comparison to a hospital ward.


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Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments I got quite far in their tortuous recruitment process last year for a job that would have been pretty nifty (running KDP in the UK, basically) - but I've not heard great things about working for them even at an executive level.


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Joo (jooo) | 1351 comments They went on to interview Nick Spalding who says he's had 600,000 downloads and got a deal worth 6 figures and stood outside the house that Amazon paid for.
He made it look so so easy to write a book and upload it and rake in the money.
They showed a family (in US) who buy absolutely everything from Amazon including groceries.
And it ended with Bezos saying he knows Amazon will fall out of favour at some point, he just hopes it is after he is dead.

Oh and the customer is always the main focus.


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Jim | 21809 comments To be fair to them at least they managed to avoid getting sucked into the salary capping that Apple and google were running

http://www.biznews.com/briefs/2014/03...


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Andrew wrote: "I got quite far in their tortuous recruitment process last year for a job that would have been pretty nifty (running KDP in the UK, basically) - but I've not heard great things about working for th..."

Oh shame you didn't get the post. :(


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R.M.F. Brown | 2124 comments Andy wrote: "R.M.F wrote: "Not a good company to work for. Great to buy from, terrible to work for."

A friend's younger sister worked for them over the summer and Christmas periods last year, in between terms ..."


It's not a North Korean prison camp by any stretch of the imagination, but when you get a 20 minute break (that you have to take in the canteen) and it takes 10 mins to walk to the canteen (because of the size of the place), well, that was a big gripe.


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Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 1774 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "Oh shame you didn't get the post. :( "

Cheers, Patti - The whole application was a bit of a punt on my part. I was ridiculously under-experienced for the role and it's a miracle I got as far as I did in the process. I think the fact that I actually am a KDP author sort of appealed to them.

It would have been a fantastic experience, but I think the job I ended up getting is a much better fit for me. Plus I can walk to work ;)


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Philip (sarah) Willis | 4630 comments When a customer makes a complaint to Bezos he forwards it to the appropriate manager with a question mark stamped on, the manager then has to not only investigate the complaint but develop a strategy to prevent the same problem EVER happening again. Their reward.... a smiley face from Bezos if it meets his approval!

If only that would work for me ;@)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I should start answering my private messages in here like that.


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Philip (sarah) Willis | 4630 comments I noticed none of the managers featured appeared to have a very long shelf life 2-5yrs seemed to be the norm.
Perhaps the long service staff keep their mouths shut!


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A.L. Butcher (alb2012) | 1608 comments It is probably no worse than any other multinationl. Most of them get up to dubious practices.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments Well now I know what to watch tonight :)
(given up on 'Jamaica Inn' as we can't understand a word they say)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Was just reading about that, Karen.

Huge number of complaints about the sound quality.


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Will Macmillan Jones (willmacmillanjones) | 11324 comments My friend who needs thick glasses says she had trouble with the picture quality too


Desley (Cat fosterer) (booktigger) | 12594 comments Karen wrote: "Well now I know what to watch tonight :)
(given up on 'Jamaica Inn' as we can't understand a word they say)"


I didn't have any probs, but I watch everything with subtitles. Odd, as I have really good hearing.


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Andy Elliott | 1446 comments I thought Jamaica Inn was excellent, despite a slightly boggy (fnarr, fnarr) middle with a surprisingly earthy performance from the late Lady Sybil. None of it was as sinister as the modern day town of Bodmin, and 'twas nice to have mention of my old stomping ground Camelford.

Did folks really have a problem with the accents?


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments It wasn't the accents, Andy - am used to those - it was the quality of sound. And my mum couldn't see a darn thing either as it was all too dark most of the time.


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Andy Elliott | 1446 comments Just read a couple of news items on the sound. Very odd a it was fine on our telly. Or maybe it's my wolf like hearing.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments Must admit, we quite often have to reroute the sound on American films, through the hifi speakers as we can't understand a word. They mumble so much, but then a lot of actors these days aren't classically trained.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Hate when the 'background' music drowns out dialogue. And when adverts are 80 decibels louder than the show.


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David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments My wife needs the loud adverts to wake her up, otherwise she would miss more of the film than she sees.


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Andy Elliott | 1446 comments There was an abandoned Monty Python sketch whereby the dialogue would be quieter and quieter in an effort to trick the unsuspecting audience to turn up the volume on their tellyboxes. This would then be followed by a very loud noise of some sort. The Beeb put pay to this gag, in fear of lawsuits brought about by burst eardrums and telly speakers.


Simon (Highwayman) (highwayman) | 4276 comments I had to turn Jamaica Inn off. I didn't mind the tricky accents but I couldn't even pick out any words. It was very frustrating.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments I think they got their target market completely wrong on this - most of us who actually know who D du M was, and have read lots of her books/seen 'The Birds', 'Rebecca' et al, are now of an age where hearing is rather more delicate.
I prophecy a whole new Saga range of films/tv and radio, where we can actually see and hear what's going on!


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments Should add, it was interesting that we didn't have any probs watching the American version of House of Cards, so I guess the actors were better trained and the sound engineers weren't twelve yr olds on work experience. So, it can be done .


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David Hadley Karen wrote: "ave read lots of her books/seen 'The Birds', 'Rebecca' et al, are now of an age where hearing is rather more delicate."

Or perhaps they're worried that if it is too loud it might wake us up.


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Tim | 8539 comments Sorry what? Did someone say something?


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Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Jud (Disney Diva) wrote: "Did everyone see this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainme..."


I have now.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments Makes me feel better! Less of a Grumpy Old Woman, more of a Justifiably Grumpy Old Woman. Well, I think that's an improvement...

Re David's comment - Listening to the News Quiz on the weekend, they said there was a coach company who had complained cos the pensioners snored so loudly on the way home they couldn't hear the coach engine!!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments That would be my in-laws.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments And my Other Half! Bless, only got to switch on the footie and the windows are rattling :)


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David Hadley Karen wrote: "Listening to the News Quiz on the weekend, they said there was a coach company who had complained cos the pensioners snored so loudly on the way home they couldn't hear the coach engine!!
"


Yeah. I heard that one somewhere too.

I just hope that when we finally get around to sleeping through watching Jamaica Inn, our dog isn't snoring in front of the telly or we won't stand a change of knowing what's happening.


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Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments We legit need to wake people up on a nearly weekly basis in work because they snore so loudly.


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Karen Lowe | 1338 comments Hehe. Early days when I was a temp sec in London, I'd be sitting with shorthand pad taking dictation and realise the long silence was not cos boss was thinking of the right words... he'd nodded off. again. Never bothered waking him, bless. Embarrassing for him tho!


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