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message 201: by Heather (new)

Heather | 87 comments Clary is a tad more likeable on the show.


message 202: by Isla_Herondale (new)

Isla_Herondale | 48 comments Atty wrote: "Isla_Herondale wrote: "i haven't watched it, could you tell me what's bad about it so you put me off? I really don't want to watch it but I probably will if I don't know how bad it is."

Are you as..."

Just everyone


message 203: by [deleted user] (new)

Isla_Herondale wrote: "Atty wrote: "Isla_Herondale wrote: "i haven't watched it, could you tell me what's bad about it so you put me off? I really don't want to watch it but I probably will if I don't know how bad it is...."

Lol ok. Well....... horrible acting most if not all of the time , terrible dialogue and i mean terrible, the scriptwriter should have been thrown off the job but i mean i guess its meant to be terrible? Idk but i might link you just one specific scene where Clary is supposed to be sad because her mother is dead and the whole scene made me laugh when it was supposed to be serious.


message 204: by [deleted user] (new)

Atty wrote: "Isla_Herondale wrote: "Atty wrote: "Isla_Herondale wrote: "i haven't watched it, could you tell me what's bad about it so you put me off? I really don't want to watch it but I probably will if I do..."

Cant find the damn scene basically the scene is where her mother is in a coma or dead and clary asks what she’s supposed to do and magnus says something along the lines of “you just have to go into it and cry your heart out.” And it was said in such a cheesy way and dramatically that it was laughable i’m not kidding it was that bad.

But after seeing some more clips i will say that i do like the tv show Jace for the most part , he isn’t as obnoxious as he’s meant to be in the books lol (its surprising because brits tend to annoy me , but there was also no british accent so that may have helped.) and magnus seems pretty funny like he did in the books , just based off of a few clips . Alec i already knew was kind of cool and his and clary’s dynamic is nice .


message 205: by Heather (new)

Heather | 87 comments Couldn't have said it better.
All I have to say is that you shouldn't rely on our opinions. Just try the show for yourself (and join me on anti Shadowhunters TV sites).
If like it great if you don't great.


message 206: by Wise Cat (last edited Jan 12, 2019 11:34AM) (new)

Wise Cat (wisecat) | 15 comments Well I'm sticking to my guns even if I was told I'm "full of bullshit", which is an attack on me personally, not my point of view.

And even if I was full of bullshit, at least it can be used as fertilizer which helps the soil and helps things grow. Unkind comments to people who don't agree doesn't anything.


message 207: by Heather (new)

Heather | 87 comments What are you talking about?


message 208: by [deleted user] (new)

Wise Cat wrote: "Well I'm sticking to my guns even if I was told I'm "full of bullshit", which is an attack on me personally, not my point of view.

And even if I was full of bullshit, at least it can be used as fe..."


Who are you talking to exactly?


message 209: by Emma (new)

Emma Clabastian? But ... Sebastian is her brother? That’s wrong on so many levels so Clace ofc


message 210: by Mils (new)

Mils (iluvmybooks) CLACE


message 211: by Kath (new)

Kath | 1 comments Harleigh wrote: "Atty wrote: "Luna wrote: "Clace! Clabastian incest (I didn't even know they had a ship name), Yes, there was a time when we thought *spoiler alert* Jace and Clary were siblings, but they are in no ..."

(at the beginning I would like to say sorry for my english - it's not my first language)

Also I would like to add that for me Clary actually is lying to herself all the time that she hates Sebastian. There is this scene in COLS where they are in the club in Prague and Seb asks her to come with him to show her something (the fountain and their reflection in its water).

I read somewhere that when you are drunk or on drugs then your consciouness decreases and your subconscious comes to the fore. When she was asked by him to come with him she thinks that:

"“Clarissa,” he said. “I want to show you something.”
No. The word came and went, dissolving like sugar into liquid. She couldn’t remember
why she was supposed to say no to him. He was her brother; she should love him. He
had brought her to this beautiful place. Perhaps he had done bad things, but that was a
long time ago and she could no longer remember what they were."

And i had this impression throughout the whole book that she must constantly remind herself to "hate him" "say no to him" "dont trust him" "he did many awful things" etc. Yet when she is drugged and relaxed she doesnt see the reason why all above shoul take place. She even thinks that she really should love him.
It something like in hypnosis for me. The state when you are relaxed and when all the facades come down and you really feel what you think. Imo she just persuaded herself that she must hate him, but she really didn't feel that way.


message 212: by [deleted user] (new)

Claaaaceee


message 213: by MarleyTheDragon (new)

MarleyTheDragon why is this even a conversation? clace is the best. THE BEST.


message 214: by Violet (new)

Violet | 1 comments Clabastian. I mean, Clace has depth, yeah, but if you think about it, it has too much. I mean, Jace has died multiple times, and Clary will literally do anything to save him. That's kinda toxic, maybe? And who can get through couple problems like the other half DYING AND COMING BACK?! So, I mostly ship Clabastian because I hate Clace. Not the nice Sebastian, the one he becomes before he dies, though- the evil one. It's a nice complement to Clary's good heart.


message 215: by Teresa (new)

Teresa (Taylor's Version) | 2 comments This is just weird. Sebastian is her brother. Of course I prefer Clace, even if I dont ship them, anything is better than Damion your brother. Eww


message 216: by ◇T◇ (new)

◇T◇ | 2 comments I've always been a sucker for Sebastian, honestly I wanted all 3 together lol I liked their dynamic when they were living and working together that short time, even if it was a farce


message 217: by Luisa (new)

Luisa | 2 comments Is that even a question, guys? Honestly I don't think Clary and Sebastian are meant to be a ship


Jayce Salem Hatchet Apotoxin (slowly losing hope) ~when I die make my coffin red~ but what about jebastion?


message 219: by Maliah (new)

Maliah (maliahpaige) | 2 comments Why is this even a discussion? First of all Sebastion needs to leave and be shipped to Jupiter. They are siblings, even if that was okay(which it is not), they have no chemistry.

I love clace, so much. They're story is amazing and I like Jace too. As many people mentioned they have more depth. I like Sebastion at the end of Heavenly Fire.


message 220: by Maliah (new)

Maliah (maliahpaige) | 2 comments Guys, Clabastian ares siblings! SIBLINGS!!!!!

If you didn't know siblings are:
child related to another person by blood, adoption, or affinity through a common legal or biological parent.”

That is incest

Incest is-sex between close relatives, for example a brother, sister, or parent.


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