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message 51: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Katie wrote: "Well, I just know that if George R. R Martin would just stop writing, I could be the queen of epic fantasy...and a few more epic fantasy characters might stay alive!

Or...not."


Don't worry about epic fantasy characters, there's plenty more where they come from;-


Kill 'em all!


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments There's blood thirsty Jim.

I'm frightened.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "There's blood thirsty Jim.

I'm frightened."


Nobody give him the chainsaw.


message 54: by Kath (new)

Kath Middleton | 23860 comments I suspect he has his own!


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Kath wrote: "I suspect he has his own!"

Shhh. You distract him and I'll sneak in and remove it.


message 56: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments Lock it up in the dungeon GL


message 57: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Kath wrote: "I suspect he has his own!"

Doesn't everybody?


message 58: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Gingerlily - Elephant Philosopher wrote: "Kath wrote: "I suspect he has his own!"

Shhh. You distract him and I'll sneak in and remove it."


I could hear the sniffing and coughing over the sound of the chainsaw!


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Jim wrote:

I could hear the sniffing and coughing over the sound of the chainsaw!"


DARN this BLASTED cold!


message 60: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments Jim wrote: "I think it's almost as long standing as the tradition of slagging off an author as having 'sold out' and having no literary value because they have the audacity to sell books and make money.

By th..."


Bet you sell more books than me though...


message 61: by J.D. (last edited Apr 10, 2014 09:09AM) (new)

J.D. Hallowell | 55 comments Tim wrote: "And Teddy worried lots about
The fact that he was rather stout.
He thought: "If only I were thin!
But how does anyone begin?

Holds a lot more truth now than when I was six...
(A.A. Milne..."


Absolutely love A.A. Milne. At one point, I had nearly every poem in "When We Were Very Young", including that one, memorized. It is the book that was responsible for one of my son's first 10 words being "Book!"

But my favorite from that book is less "kid's stuff" than you might expect to find there:

http://www.nunoncastors.co.uk/2009/11...


message 62: by J.D. (new)

J.D. Hallowell | 55 comments Jim wrote: "Kath wrote: "I suspect he has his own!"

Doesn't everybody?"


I have two, so it's always possible that someone else is missing theirs.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments All I've got is a bread knife. :(


message 64: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Tim wrote: "

Bet you sell more books than me though...
..."


I don't know Tim, I genuinely don't know. If we get the same proportion of reviewers per purchaser I don't.


message 65: by David (new)

David Hadley Jim wrote: "By that reckoning I fail on all levels, doomed to being populist"

Better that than having schoolkids contacting you asking for you to do their homework 'on the symbolism of yak stew' for them.


message 66: by R.M.F. (new)

R.M.F. Brown | 2124 comments If everybody's being honest, JK Rowling is not a great writer, not from a technical point of view. But, she does tell good stories, has entertained millions of people (which, at the end of the day reading and/or entertainment is all about) and she's given millions away to charity.
So yeah, she deserves her success. These rants from various authors hint at jealously.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Hint?

You master of understatement, you.


message 68: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments David wrote: "Jim wrote: "By that reckoning I fail on all levels, doomed to being populist"

Better that than having schoolkids contacting you asking for you to do their homework 'on the symbolism of yak stew'..."


There is that.
Mind you I'm determined to prove that fame and riches wouldn't spoil me


message 69: by David (new)

David Hadley Jim wrote: "Mind you I'm determined to prove that fame and riches wouldn't spoil me "

I don't think it would spoil me anyway, I'm already well past my Best Before date.


message 70: by David (new)

David Staniforth (davidstaniforth) | 7935 comments Not so fussed about the fame, but I'd let the riches spoil me rotten. It wouldn't matter because all the extra whisky and sunlight would serve as a preservative.


message 71: by Katie (new)

Katie Stewart (katiewstewart) | 817 comments I don't want to be famous. People expect you to make speeches at university graduations when you're famous and there's no way I could do anything as good as JK Rowling or Neil Gaiman, both of whom give incredibly inspiring speeches.

But rich...yes, I think I could do rich.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I don't need rich. I just want to earn enough to pay for what I feel are my basic needs.

I don't need famous, either. I prefer being loved by few rather than worshiped by many.

Oh well. Too late for that. ;)


message 73: by David (new)

David Manuel | 1112 comments Patti (baconater) wrote: "I don't need rich. I just want to earn enough to pay for what I feel are my basic needs.

I don't need famous, either. I prefer being loved by few rather than worshiped by many.

Oh well. Too late ..."


Ah, yet better to be feared than loved, according to Machiavelli.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Boo


message 75: by Marc (new)

Marc Nash (sulci) | 4313 comments never mind rich, it would just be nice to make the money back on one of any of my books. I'm paying for the privilege to write & publish!


message 76: by R.M.F. (new)

R.M.F. Brown | 2124 comments Katie wrote: "I don't want to be famous. People expect you to make speeches at university graduations when you're famous and there's no way I could do anything as good as JK Rowling or Neil Gaiman, both of whom ..."

Rich, as in wealth? Or rich in character? :)


message 77: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments nothing pisses me off more than snobbery when it comes to genres people read. this so called stage of adulthood that apparently makes you oh so cultured and unable to enjoy anything other than 'proper' books. what bullshit.


message 78: by Jim (new)

Jim | 21809 comments Elle wrote: "nothing pisses me off more than snobbery when it comes to genres people read. this so called stage of adulthood that apparently makes you oh so cultured and unable to enjoy anything other than 'pro..."

I suspect you get it in other things as well. Ask how many people enjoy country music and then look at the sales ;-)
It's the same with newspapers, a few years back someone did a survey and a lot of people claimed to read the Times and had nothing to do with the Sun, filthy rag.
They then checked with the two or three paper shops which delivered to that area and found that the figures were exactly the other way round, damn all people actually bought the Times but the Sun was by far away the most popular paper :-)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I don't think I've ever read the sun. We used to buy the times every day when we were in the UK. We don't buy any papers any more. Get all our news online.

But I won't pay for the times online. Not when the daily mail is free. ;)


message 80: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments I thought you'd have an opinion on this, Elle :o)

We don't buy the Sun cause Gee is a Liverpool fan so he refuses to read it after the stories they printed about the Hillsborough disaster. I think I flicked through once when his flat mate bought it all those years ago before we were married...

The quotes from the page 3 girl made me laugh, that's all I remember about it.

I get my news online now too.


message 81: by Andy (new)

Andy Elliott | 1446 comments I buy the i, even now it's price has skyrocketed up to 30p as I like the Sudoku and the (relative) lack of political bias compared to the yawnfest that is The Guardian and The Times. We've also been getting the Telegraph quite a lot recently (free in Waitrose with that there loyalty card of theirs) as we need the excess paper for moving house, which is like sitting on the train next to a banker but enjoyed their crusade against the abhorrent Ms Miller. The only red top I've ever bought was The Socialist Worker once to anger an ex-girlfriend's father who was a Tory councillor. That might have been the reason why we split up, coming to think of it.

All this talk of being too embarrassed to admit to buying the Sun reminds me of the old Not The Nine O'clock News sketch wherein a customer buys a porno and a copy of the Sun, and then hides the Sun inside the copy of Big Jugs (or such) before he walks out of the shop.


message 82: by Tim (new)

Tim | 8539 comments I bought a copy of Big Jugs once, expecting to see lots of pictures of natural earthenware. Turned out that most of the jugs were plastic. Very disappointed!


message 83: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments the sun and the daily mail *shudder of death*

i read the guardian. ;) (online)



fyi, i love country music.


message 84: by David (new)

David Hadley Elle wrote: "the sun and the daily mail *shudder of death*

i read the guardian. ;) (online)



fyi, i love country music."


But the Grauniad is just the Daily Mail for politics students.

I was just listening to Conway Twitty & Loretta Lynn as it happens.


message 85: by Elle (last edited Apr 25, 2014 05:37AM) (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments I vehemently disagree David but then if we all agreed on things like this we would be boring. the DM is a disgusting rag that is nothing like the Guardian. (No matter if you like the guardian or not - the DM is DISGUSTING)


message 86: by Jud (new)

Jud (judibud) | 16799 comments That'll be why Patti likes it then


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments And I know Peanut has been known to read it. ;)


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments Dave's been listening to country music lately. Some band called the grateful dead or some such.


Gingerlily - The Full Wild | 34228 comments Because when you listen you would be grateful to be dead?


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I feel that way about most of the crap he inflicts upon me.


message 91: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments the DM is still blocked from my computer like 1 year on. i havent touched it yet. it was depressing, demeaning and i felt ill after i read it mostly.


Patti (baconater) (goldengreene) | 56525 comments I need to send you links then. :D


message 93: by David (new)

David Hadley Elle wrote: "I vehemently disagree David but then if we all agreed on things like this we would be boring. the DM is a disgusting rag that is nothing like the Guardian. (No matter if you like the guardian or no..."

I used to read the Graun - did so for several years - but I don't know if it is me just getting older, but I do genuinely find it worse - much worse - than the DM (mainly probably because of its smug sense of its own moral superiority).

But, then I don't like the DM either.

Like you say though us all agreeing would be boring and I've long since given up on arguing on the internet.


message 94: by Andy (last edited Apr 25, 2014 08:34AM) (new)

Andy Elliott | 1446 comments At least the graun and the DF aren't as tedious as the Express, the last bastion of front page weather reports and Lady Di conspiracies and little else. Even the DM has achieved some good in its lifetime (the Stephen Lawrence campaign for instance).


message 95: by Will (new)

Will Once (willonce) | 3772 comments Newspapers only print the stories that their readers want to read. They probably mutter darkly about their readers in the same way that we complain about them.


message 96: by Joo (new)

Joo (jooo) | 1351 comments Ah the Express. The ones who predicted that we'd be under snow for 100 days this winter gone.

This is a great article comparing the front pages of it for a year. http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content...


message 97: by Elle (new)

Elle (louiselesley) | 6579 comments David wrote: "Elle wrote: "I vehemently disagree David but then if we all agreed on things like this we would be boring. the DM is a disgusting rag that is nothing like the Guardian. (No matter if you like the g..."

My issues with the DM is the glaringly obvious homophobic, sexist & generally hateful commentary on both normally people and celebs.


message 98: by David (new)

David Hadley Elle wrote: "David wrote: "My issues with the DM is the glaringly obvious homophobic, sexist & generally hateful commentary on both normally people and celebs. "

Can't say I've ever noticed any of that, but then I rarely read much of it, and certainly never anything about slebs.

I usually just read the 'latest scientific research says' articles for a laugh.


message 99: by D.M. (new)

D.M. (dmyates) I love what Anne Rice said. When I started joining internet groups for writing, I had no idea what I was getting into. Although I've met some really amazing authors and made some wonderful friends (many in this group)I've also run into the meanest immature writers. I agree - if this woman can't sell her books, it says it all right there. If writing is in your heart and stories want to be written, why stop writing.


message 100: by Vanessa (new)

Vanessa Wester Great comment D.M. - brilliant :)


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