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Fired from the Canon - 10 Must Read Books You Can Skip
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The opening chapter is like a Terence Malick film...seriously!
A book I'd put on that list is The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova.
I hate this book. The fact she got paid a million dollars in advance shows how demented her publishers were or how greedy her agent was. This 700 plus pages of bullshit pretending to be a horror story...it's horrific alright.
Oh good one Martyn!! I read that and it was terrible! It just dragged on and on and on and on and . . .well you get the picture.
It never climaxed either. So weird.
It never climaxed either. So weird.

It never climaxed either. So weird."
I still chide myself for having read it all.

I'm hatin' on the haters.
Has anyone ever really made great claims for Jacob's Room? I must be out of touch with the Bloomsbury clique, because I assumed most critics of Virginia Woolf regard this novel as a transitional warm-up to her mature works. Seems like an easy target.
I hereby give every reader permission to skip the second part of Goethe's Faust.
I hereby give every reader permission to skip the second part of Goethe's Faust.
Martyn wrote: The opening chapter is like a Terence Malick film...seriously!
This statement has made me absolutely want to read The Rainbow now! I've never read any D.H. Lawrence.
This statement has made me absolutely want to read The Rainbow now! I've never read any D.H. Lawrence.

. . .you guys KNOW i'm stoked to see old faulkner on there! . . . the funny thing is, thematically AA still haunts me, it's just the execution that drove me nuts . . . the corrections was one of those books that blew me away in terms of the writing on a sentence level, but the characters weren't sympathetic enough to me to resonate-- still think it's a great book . . . at any rate, i love lists like these because they're divisive . . . tale of two cities is one of my least favorite dickens novels . . .and there are two or three JK novels i liked better than on the road . . .

I think we should pick a book on the list and do a group read, just cuz. And also cuz we haven't done an organized group read in a bit.
And the fan of the book leads the discussion.
And the fan of the book leads the discussion.
I agree with the article's authors on white noise and the road
strongly disagree over the Dos Passos however
they seem to pick on just the admittedly annoying but only occasional imagistic device and miss most of the trilogy's strengths - and the fact is that even the imagistic bs develops a rhythm and serves a purpose in the structure of the work
strongly disagree over the Dos Passos however
they seem to pick on just the admittedly annoying but only occasional imagistic device and miss most of the trilogy's strengths - and the fact is that even the imagistic bs develops a rhythm and serves a purpose in the structure of the work

And the fan of the book leads the discussion."
I'm with Shel on this. I'd love to do another group read soon!
Well, you are in luck. Check Group Reads... I don't think Madame Bovary is on this list but we're reading it in November. :)

"There isn't a bourgeois alive who in the ferment of youth, if only for a day or for a minute, hasn't thought himself capable of boundless passions and noble exploits. The sorriest little woman-chaser has dreamed of Oriental queens; in a corner of every notary's heart lie the moldy remains of a poet."
They have an article posted, called Fired from the Canon http://thesecondpass.com/?p=1663 , listing 10 books that everyone under the sun recommends, but that you could really go ahead and skip.
Some of them are indeed books that I've been recommended to read but haven't gotten around to (The Corrections, The Road) and some are books I've tried to read and never finished (Absalom, Absalom!, 100 Years of Solitude) and some are books I'm very happy to have read (On the Road, A Tale of Two Cities).
It's an interesting little list and there is a substantial argument given for each book, so it wasn't written flippantly.
I'm curious to know which books from the Canon you all would add to it?