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Book synopsis:
'The more I know of the world, the more am I convinced that I shall never see a man whom I can really love. I require so much!'

Marianne Dashwood wears her heart on her sleeve, and when she falls in love with the dashing but unsuitable John Willoughby she ignores her sister Elinor's warning that her impulsive behaviour leaves her open to gossip and innuendo. Meanwhile Elinor, always sensitive to social convention, is struggling to conceal her own romantic disappointment, even from those closest to her. Through their parallel experience of love—and its threatened loss—the sisters learn that sense must mix with sensibility if they are to find personal happiness in a society where status and money govern the rules of love.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Thank you so much for creating this thread!

Drishti, I will probably be able to pick up the book from the library later today. I'm super excited to finally read it, with you, starting on the 8th! :-)

And if anyone else wants to join Drishti and me, we'd welcome your input into our discussion! :-)


❀Tea❀ (ttea) | 9471 comments By the time I'll be able to join you, you'll probably be finished. :)

Do you plan to fly through it like with HP? :P


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments ❀Tea❀ wrote: "By the time I'll be able to join you, you'll probably be finished. :)

Do you plan to fly through it like with HP? :P"


Possibly. It never takes me very long to get through a book. I think the longest it took me to read a print book was maybe a week?

But if Sense and Sensibility is well-written and easy for contemporary readers to understand, I don't see why it would take me more than a day or three to read it. ;-)

EDIT/ADDENDUM: It took me seven days to make it through Pride and Prejudice, and it was only 60 or so pages longer. So it might take me a few more days than anticipated to finish this one. It all depends, I think, on how and what I feel about the story as I'm reading it. ;-)


❀Tea❀ (ttea) | 9471 comments If you want something for contemporary readers, you could try Sense & Sensibility :P
I didn't read it so no idea what's it like.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments ❀Tea❀ wrote: "If you want something for contemporary readers, you could try Sense & Sensibility :P
I didn't read it so no idea what's it like."


I'm not much for contemporary literary works. I prefer my literary works to be classics. My contemporary tastes run more to fantastical settings (paranormal romances and urban fantasies).

But thanks for the recommendation! I might check it out. ;-)


❀Tea❀ (ttea) | 9471 comments Hm, last time I've read it, it took me 10 days. I just checked and I read like 7 other books in those 10 days, so it obviously wasn't only S&S. :)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments ❀Tea❀ wrote: "Hm, last time I've read it, it took me 10 days. I just checked and I read like 7 other books in those 10 days, so it obviously wasn't only S&S. :)"

Hmmm, well, even it takes me a "long" time to read it, I'm still planning to get it read in December! I need to count if for a year-ending challenge in another group. ;-)


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Zeni Taubl | 308 comments This has been on my TBR shelf for a while now. I'm really hoping to join in the conversation for this, hopefully I won't be too slow a reader to do this and the BOMs.


TerryJane I'd like to re-read this with you all. :)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I finished our first December group read a few hours ago and was just about to get offline and read a new book when I had the super smart idea to check my December plan, and what did I find? Today was the day I was supposed to start Sense and Sensibility! So I'm going to read it instead. :-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments I don't think I'll be starting for a couple of days. My copy hasn't arrived, yet.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Okay, Drishti. Just join in when you can. :-)

I've only read two chapters, but I have already decided that I definitely do not like Mrs. John Dashwood. And John Dashwood is coming across as rather spineless (or perhaps pussy-whipped is a better description). I'm feeling predisposed to like Elinor and her sisters. I hope they'll be nice. :-)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I got sidetracked after stopping in to record a status update. So now I think I'm going to hold off on reading more. Sleep beckons. Chapter 3 will have to wait.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Does anyone else laugh out loud in Chapter 16 when (view spoiler) I did, lol!


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I had hoped to get further along in this book today, but I decided to be happy with reading 100 pages. I just finished Chapter 18 (on page 102 in the edition I'm reading). I'm enjoying this story, but the language is rather tiring. I've found that deciphering the late 1790s/early 1800s sentence structure takes a lot out of me. So I'm going to pause here for the night.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I just finished Volume I. I don't know what to think of Edward: Is (view spoiler) I can't say that I liked him before these revelations, but I like him even less now. ...

I think I need a nap before continuing on to Volume II. And I have a thing to go to this evening, so I probably won't be able to read more until tonight.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Sadly, I read even less today than I did yesterday. And tomorrow's not looking like it will be much better. I am enjoying the story, but I don't really know who the main character is. I think it's Elinor, but I don't feel like I know her very well and I'm about to start Chapter 26.

I think I'm enjoying the story - despite my lack of affection for the characters and the rather archaic language - because of the humor. Every time I get to feeling tired of reading this book, there will be a line that either makes me laugh or, at the very least, I'll smile. And as these lines are mostly spoken by or thoughts of or said in conjunction with Elinor, that's why I think she's the main character.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments As expected, yesterday I wasn't able to read very much. Today, however, I was able to finish Volume II. I have decided that I like Fanny Dashwood, if anything, even less than I did at first acquaintance. Mr. John Dashwood is still a douche. And we've met even more characters to dislike. :-(

Pretty much the only character I like is Elinor. It's a good thing she's snarky. :-)

Elinor had a quote/thought a page or three before the end of Chapter 36 that I really enjoyed:

"Elinor agreed to it all, for she did not think he deserved the compliment of rational opposition." :-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments I received my copy yesterday. But, I was too tired and all I wanted to do was sleep. Will try and read some today. Looks like I have a lot to catch up to.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "I received my copy yesterday. But, I was too tired and all I wanted to do was sleep. Will try and read some today. Looks like I have a lot to catch up to."

Just chime in whenever you can. :-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Of course! :-)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I love Elinor! :-) Chapter 41: (view spoiler) ... She knows her sis-in-law all right. lol!!!


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I think I've now read and reread the same sentence in Chapter 42 three or four times, so I think it's time to go to sleep. It is, after all, nearly 1:30 in the morning. And as Elinor and company (view spoiler), this seems as good a place to pause as any.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I finished it! :-)

I really liked it. Though I imagined Edward as a two-dimensional stick figure-like guy right through to the end, even after (view spoiler) lol. I wonder what their children will look like? lol ;-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Jen wrote: "Okay, Drishti. Just join in when you can. :-)

I've only read two chapters, but I have already decided that I definitely do not like Mrs. John Dashwood. And John Dashwood is coming across as rather..."


I dislike Mrs. John Dashwood, too. She is a really cunning wife. I agree about Mr. John Dashwood! He can be too easily influenced.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "Jen wrote: "I dislike Mrs. John Dashwood, too. She is a really cunning wife. I agree about Mr. John Dashwood! He can be too easily influenced. "

Yes! I'm glad you agree with me. I think they're perfect for one another! And that's not a compliment! ;-)


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments I wrote my review. :-) I decided this was a four-star read for me. If you'd like to read my thoughts, you can find them at https://www.goodreads.com/review/show....


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Yes! I'm glad you agree with me. I think they're perfect for one another! And that's not a compliment! ;-)

LOL! You're so right!
A cunning wife + An easily influenced husband = Perfect pair


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Jen wrote: "Does anyone else laugh out loud in Chapter 16 when [spoilers removed] I did, lol!"

I did, too. LOL!


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "Jen wrote: "Does anyone else laugh out loud in Chapter 16 when [spoilers removed] I did, lol!"

I did, too. LOL!"


Oh, yay! lol ;-)


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Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Jen wrote: "I just finished Volume I. I don't know what to think of Edward: Is [spoilers removed] I can't say that I liked him before these revelations, but I like him even less now. ...

I think I need a nap..."


Nor do I understand what to make of Edward's character.

I think that Edward has been sort of indifferent towards Elinor. No special treatment or dropping of hints. I was convinced that Marriane and Mrs. Dashwood's anticipations were baseless. And, I even doubted if the lock of hair on Edward's ring was truly Elinor's. So, the revelation was hardly surprising. Jen, did you have any doubts like mine? Did the revelation surprise you?

Talking about the lock of hair on Edward's ring, it is weird that men tend to keep their beloved's hair as a souvenir. It seems to me to be an odd a choice for a souvenir.


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "Jen wrote: " Jen, did you have any doubts like mine? Did the revelation surprise you?

Talking about the lock of hair on Edward's ring, it is weird that men tend to keep their beloved's hair as a souvenir. It seems to me to be an odd a choice for a souvenir. "


No, I was not surprised. Because I never felt like I knew Edward, I was never surprised by anything he did. I did have doubts like yours, though, mostly because of my wishy-washy feelings for Edward. (And also because him being true to Elinor would have made the story too neat and short, lol.)

Regarding the lock-of-hair-as-souvenir, it would be an odd thing today, but back then it was a traditional gift of the fair maiden to her knight. (Elinor and Edward might not have been "a fair maiden and her knight," but you see what I mean, I'm sure.)


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Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Jen wrote: Regarding the lock-of-hair-as-souvenir, it would be an odd thing today, but back then it was a traditional gift of the fair maiden to her knight. (Elinor and Edward might not have been "a fair maiden and her knight," but you see what I mean, I'm sure.)

I didn't know about that tradition. So, thanks for telling! =D


Jen wrote: "As expected, yesterday I wasn't able to read very much. Today, however, I was able to finish Volume II. I have decided that I like Fanny Dashwood, if anything, even less than I did at first acquain..."

So, I finished Volume 2.

Sadly, my opinion of Mrs. Fanny Dashwood and Mr. John Dashwood hasn't changed much. Like you, I pretty much dislike all the characters except Elinor and maybe, Colonel Brandon. Mrs. Ferrars is a new entry to the long list. She is exactly what I pictured her to be.

I admit that I always doubted Willoughby's love for Marriane. So, it was no surprise that he married Ms. Gray. But, what he did with Colonel Brandon's niece was a big surprise. I didn't think him to be a faithful man, but also I didn't think that he was that deceitful and cunning.


Jen wrote: Elinor had a quote/thought a page or three before the end of Chapter 36 that I really enjoyed:

"Elinor agreed to it all, for she did not think he deserved the compliment of rational opposition." :-)


Same here! I enjoyed that, too. Robert Ferrars is such a stupid person.
And, there was another incident that I enjoyed a bit. When after first meeting Mrs. Ferrars, Lucy came to talk about it to Elinor, Edward, totally unaware of Lucy's being present there, came to visit Elinor, too. A perfect reunion, undoubtedly. =D


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "I didn't know about that tradition. So, thanks for telling! =D..."

You're welcome, Drishti. :-) I used to read a lot of bodice-ripper-type romances 20 or so years ago. I think that's how I learned of that tradition.

Drishti wrote: "But, what he did with Colonel Brandon's niece was a big surprise. I didn't think him to be a faithful man, but also I didn't think that he was that deceitful and cunning. ..."

I agree. I too was surprised, as I didn't think of Willoughby as being of an age to do those things. Maybe I missed something? It felt like I had missed something when I was reading it.

Drishti wrote: Same here! I enjoyed that, too. Robert Ferrars is such a stupid person.
And, there was another incident that I enjoyed a bit. When after first meeting Mrs. Ferrars, Lucy came to talk about it to Elinor, Edward, totally unaware of Lucy's being present there, came to visit Elinor, too. A perfect reunion, undoubtedly. =D "


:-)

I liked that scene, too. It seemed a fine comeuppance for Edward's wishy-washiness. lol ;-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments Jen wrote: "I love Elinor! :-) Chapter 41: [spoilers removed] ... She knows her sis-in-law all right. lol!!!"

Oh yes, she does! lol! =D


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "Jen wrote: "I love Elinor! :-) Chapter 41: [spoilers removed] ... She knows her sis-in-law all right. lol!!!"

Oh yes, she does! lol! =D"


I really loved that Jane Austen didn't ignore that Fanny was how she was, and had at least one character (Elinor) recognize that she was not a good person. Sometimes, as readers, we see things the characters don't, so it's nice to find a book where the characters (at least one of them) see the same things we readers do. :-)


Drishti (drishti_ohri) | 1047 comments I finished it. Mrs. Ferrars is a really (view spoiler)

And Lucy, that backbiting bitch. (Forgive my language!) How can she be that horrible? (view spoiler)

I don't feel much compassion for Willoughby. I know he regrets (view spoiler)

I'm glad I read this book. I enjoyed it. But, I think my favorite will always be Pride and Prejudice. =D


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Jen (reader44ever) | 2930 comments Drishti wrote: "I finished it. Mrs. Ferrars is a really [spoilers removed]

And Lucy, that backbiting bitch. (Forgive my language!) How can she be that horrible? [spoilers removed]

I don't feel much compassion fo..."


I agree 1,000%. Even down to your "I'm glad I read this book. I enjoyed it. But, I think my favorite will always be Pride and Prejudice." While I'm glad I read S&S, of the two, I definitely enjoyed P&P more, too. :-)


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