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Discussion - Week Five - Kafka - The Village Schoolmaster
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I liked when the old schoolmaster actually made his appearance, and became less of an abstraction. His fantasy was quite well elaborated. I also very much liked the awkward final image of him smoking his pipe and not departing in a timely manner. It was funny too, how he was described as having filled all his pockets with loose tobacco.
At the most basic level, the original material fact of whether or not a giant mole exists and was seen is not the focus of the story, or necessarily the focus of the protagonist... and in the rarefied levels above, the powers that be and those who determine what is true, what is false, what is scientifically valid and relevant... they're also not the focus. It's the peers, or nearly-peers in the middle, and their exchange, along with all the pettiness and ambiguous details which demand our attention.
Zadignose wrote: "At the most basic level, the original material fact of whether or not a giant mole exists and was seen is not the focus of the story, or necessarily the focus of the protagonist... and in the rarefied levels above, the powers that be and those who determine what is true, what is false, what is scientifically valid and relevant... they're also not the focus. It's the peers, or nearly-peers in the middle, and their exchange, along with all the pettiness and ambiguous details which demand our attention..."
Yep, all of this boils down to "what is reality? who defines reality? who has the authority to define reality and who doesn't?"
I also enjoyed Kafka"s characterization of how a prodigy from the provinces is brought into the urban milieu, how they are paraded through the streets, and how the citizens all fall in line to agree with and ogle the "latest thing". All about opinion makers and the sheep who follow them, among other things.
Most interesting idea for me was:
Every new discovery is assumed at once into the sum total of knowledge, and with that ceases in a sense to be a discovery; it dissolves into the whole and disappears, and one must have a trained scientific eye to even recognize it after that. For it is related to fundamental axioms of whose existence we don't even know, and in the debates of science it is raised on these axioms into the very clouds.
This reminds me of the idea from Catholicism that, in order to know and commune with God, you must have a priest as a middleman, but in this case, to know reality, you must have a scientist as middleman.
Yep, all of this boils down to "what is reality? who defines reality? who has the authority to define reality and who doesn't?"
I also enjoyed Kafka"s characterization of how a prodigy from the provinces is brought into the urban milieu, how they are paraded through the streets, and how the citizens all fall in line to agree with and ogle the "latest thing". All about opinion makers and the sheep who follow them, among other things.
Most interesting idea for me was:
Every new discovery is assumed at once into the sum total of knowledge, and with that ceases in a sense to be a discovery; it dissolves into the whole and disappears, and one must have a trained scientific eye to even recognize it after that. For it is related to fundamental axioms of whose existence we don't even know, and in the debates of science it is raised on these axioms into the very clouds.
This reminds me of the idea from Catholicism that, in order to know and commune with God, you must have a priest as a middleman, but in this case, to know reality, you must have a scientist as middleman.

Henry wrote: "Excellent points, both of you. For me, it was the struggle of two truths and two egos. One true truth, and one acceptable truth - as they are different. The best intentions of the 'historian' vs th..."
And another element - the indifference of the masses and the experts.
And another element - the indifference of the masses and the experts.

This story reminds me of the dog that chases a rabbit and causes a big din in the forest, with other dogs joining in the chase, at least for a while until the novelty wears off, with the exception of the businessman who shows up too late for the party. In the end the only dog still interested in the chase is the only one who actually saw the rabbit. (schoolmaster as apostle)
Come to think of it, Kafka, for me, is like the original dog. I keep chasing after him in his writing din hoping, also, to get a glimpse of his elusive rabbit.


Linda wrote: "I read somewhere that this was one of Kafka's unfinished stories. Does anyone know if it had been tampered with or if it is as complete as Kafka left it?"
I don't know if it was "tampered with", but it was published after his death. There's a good amount of publishing info on this wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ka...
I don't know if it was "tampered with", but it was published after his death. There's a good amount of publishing info on this wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Ka...

Every new discovery is assumed at once into the sum total of knowledge, and with that ceases in a sense to be a discovery; it dissolves into the whole and disappears, and one must have a trained scientific eye to even recognize it after that. For it is related to fundamental axioms of whose existence we don't even know, and in the debates of science it is raised on these axioms into the very clouds.
It seems that these words were offered as a consolation prize. As long as a thing remains only in the mind and imagination of man is its uniqueness retained and appreciated.
City nerd gets in a beef about a mole with a country nerd. When the dust settles no one gives a scheiße.
Interesting brouhaha about the difference between the witnesses of an event and those who come later (historians?). Schoolmaster as apostle? Narrator as a believer via second-hand information?