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We've played two murder mystery games this weekend, one of them ( board game about Sherlock Holmes) I solved the clues first and the second one (role playing where we each revealed clues about ourselves and challenged each other) I was the murderer.

We've played two murder mystery games this weekend, one of them ( board game about Sherlock ..."
Those sound like fun. We had this game which we used to play as kids- where you had chits with king/soldier/thief/minister on them and the one who got minister had to figure out who the others were.

I just finished A Room Full of Bones, #4 in the Ruth Galloway series. It is current day, she is an archaeologist, and the setting is Norfolk, England. Good series and I enjoyed the book. (if you are interested in the series, start at the beginning.) But then I went on to one of those short ebooks that are sold as filler between the "real" books in the series, Ruth's First Christmas Tree. I hope I didn't spend much. I have read of these and really don't feel they are worth even the 99 cents I probably spent. Only from the library from now on!
An aside (a rant?): Reading reviews of the book many people complained of the repetitive details. This is a problem with series, but I read the entries so far apart that I'm not bothered. One reason to not sit down and read them one after another; they are published at least a year apart.
An aside (a rant?): Reading reviews of the book many people complained of the repetitive details. This is a problem with series, but I read the entries so far apart that I'm not bothered. One reason to not sit down and read them one after another; they are published at least a year apart.


I read the first Galloway book but never liked it and never read on. I know it is a very popular series, but I agree with Betsy that there was far too much on her personal life. I found that with the first Tony Parsons book, The Murder Bag, although he focuses more on the crime now and has side lined the personal life a bit. I do like the characters in a series, but the crime needs to be central I think. All feel free to disagree!

With police procedural crime novels I dislike having to read a lot about the detectives' private lives but because the Ruth Galloway series isn't a police procedural I actually enjoy the private life bits and think they're an integral part of the books. I love the series and have recently re-read them all back to back and found them even better than the first time I read them.
Normally, I tend to like the same books as you and Damaskcat, Ann, but I just really did not enjoy the first Ruth Galloway book. Never mind, it happens sometimes...

I think that part of the charm of a series lies in the characters - it is like meeting up with old friends. However, that depends upon how much you like the characters and whether you care about them. With some series I can tolerate it, in others I quite like it, but some I find irritating. You soon know which series you want to follow.

I'm definitely on the characters first, mystery second team and probably the best example is how much I love the Amelia Peabody series - the mysteries are outrageous but the family is wonderful.


Perhaps one reason that is such a successful series is that I love it too even though I am mystery first, characters second team! Though the best mysteries have both character & mystery of course...

I've only read one of those so far but it was great fun. They felt sort of like exaggerated versions of the characters from the Mummy films.

What about the Hamish Macbeth mysteries? They're in a way police procedural, but they're also very much about his private life and how it develops (and undevelops) over the series.
I enjoy Hamish, but consider him more as an anti-police procedural (or maybe police anti-procedural) as he is so often on the outs with his boss. Or prehaps they usually are? I don't read many. I enjoy his personal life, the side characters and the community, but he doesn't develop.



I like how the personal lives and family of the detectives in Deborah Crombie's series have developed over tme.
The good thing about this debate is that there are SO many series, that you do not have to read any that don't interest you. The choice is so immense. I just think it depends on what you personally like. I don't mind Gregor Demarkian's cast of neighbours in the Jane Haddam books, but other series annoy me. If you don't warm to a series you can just drop it and try something else and thank goodness for all the great choice we have - truly we are spoilt as readers.

For me the problem is that I love the TV series (I own the DVDs) but was disappointed by the books. He's almost anarchical in the TV series, and the characters of the villagers are wonderful too.

It would be odd if we liked all the same books :-)

Love Hamish Macbeth :-) He is so much a part of the mysteries he investigates because he usually knows the people involved that his private life is his work life I think.
I also like Cynthia Harrod Eages' Bill Slider mysteries but there is quite a lot about his private life in those too. I think it depends what the private life consists of as to whether I like reading about it. I got totally fed up of alcoholic detectives at one point when they were 'fashionable' that I went off series which had a lot about recurring personal problems in them.
I think one of the reasons why I like the Ruth Galloway series is because the main characters' personal problems do change and they do find creative solutions to them - even if those solutions don't work all the time. It's not the same problem all the time without any change or development.

Well, one thing that changed that I miss is his hill climbing. Maybe he's getting too old for it, but that was a fun feature of some of the early books which has been totally missing from the more recent books.
I forgot about his hill running, thanks for the reminder. I think Hamish lives in one of those timeless fantasy villages. Some of the stories go on for awhile as the author mentions that months have passed and seasons have changed (which I really appreciate as a small touch of reality vs. everything wrapped up in a week), so after 30 books he would be getting along in years in the real world.

I really must go back to Appleby - I enjoyed the first one in the series. I'm a sucker for books set in Oxford - my nephew is a student there and I love visiting him:)


My mother used to go hop picking as a child, Carolien. I believe much of the East End decamped to Kent in the summer.

That's exactly what the book describes!

The Appleby series is one I keep meaning to go back to as well.
Another author whose books are set in Oxford is Veronica Stallwood

By coincidence I'm listening to the audio book edition of the second book in that series - Murder at the Laurels

That's exactly what the book describes!"
I think there's one of the Maisie Dobbs series which involves hop picking as well.
It was a cheap holiday for those in the East End. Whole communities used to go and camp in the same places each year. My mother had very pleasant memories of going.

Now I can continue with the Shardlake series, I'm excited to see what happens next!

BTW, if you read e-books at bedtime, as I often do, read them on an ereader (Kindle or Nook) rather than on a tablet or smartphone. The white screen of a true ereader doesn't interfere with your ability to get to sleep, but the blue light screen of a tablet or smart phone does.

BTW, if you read e-books at bedtime, as I often do, read them on an ereader (Kin..."
I prefer reading actual books at bedtime for the reasons you mentioned as well as comfort so I read e-books whenever I can during the day (all day these days since I am taking a break) but switch to a book at bedtime. At the moment that book is Duncton Wood.
I'm just reading The Daughters of Gentlemen the second in the Frances Doughty series by Linda Stratmann at the moment, and enjoying it a lot - I love reading books set in the Victorian period, and she has a dry sense of humour which adds to my enjoyment. Thanks again to Damaskcat for the recommendation.

You're welcome, Judy and I'm glad you're enjoying them :-)

I enjoy Oppenheim, he wrote some of the very early spy thrillers as well.

Oh, by golly, I had totally forgotten about Perry Mason. Although ESG certainly wasn't one of the "follow the rules" authors. But Raymond Burr was unforgettable.
I found out that the Perry Mason series is the best selling adult book series in history, according to Wikipedia. (Its third on the overall list; the top two are Harry Potter and Goosebumps.)

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