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Michelle (michelleae) HJ wrote: "Michelle wrote: "In the UK, The Golden Age of Murder is £1.49 on kindle. I think it was Judy who read and enjoyed it so I've clicked and downloaded

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Golden-Age-M......"


No problem, glad you want it!


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Carolien (carolien_s) | 597 comments I've just started the second Ngaio Marsh - Enter a Murderer. Enjoying it so far, very easy read.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments HJ wrote: "Lady Clementina wrote: "I just started Died in the Wool."

I love Ngaio Marsh!"


I've read about 5 of hers so far and enjoyed them all.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1820 comments I think I've just started the third Marsh book, The Nursing Home Murder.


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Jay-me (Janet)  | 164 comments I've just read Picture Miss Seeton - that is another one to add to the list of series I want to read.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I've just started P D James 3rd novel, Unnatural Causes.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Susan wrote: "I've just started P D James 3rd novel, Unnatural Causes."
I've read that one but can't seem to remember it.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11193 comments Mod
I'm reading A Test of Wills by mother and son team Charles Todd, the first in the Inspector Rutledge series.

I had high hopes for this one, as it is set in the 1920s and features a detective with PTSD, so it seemed ideal to read after The Unpleasantness at the Bellona Club by Dorothy L. Sayers , but so far I'm disappointed - it's very slow and repetitive, and all the dialogue is rather samey.

There are also an awful lot of American turns of phrase for a book supposedly set in 1920s Britain, though this is a more minor point.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I read that a while ago and didn't much like it either, Judy. At least, I never read the next in the series.


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Rebecca (rebecca487) | 43 comments Finished Dissolution by CJ Samson. I now know why people love the Shardlake series. I loved the setting and the way the plot progressed. I will say I was a bit irked at the ending because of a certain two characters but I really enjoyed the character of Shardlake. I will be continuing the series so I'm looking forward to getting the other books!


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
SO glad you enjoyed it, Rebecca! I will say that the first book is not the best (although very good) and the author did change Shardlake's 'sidekick' in later books. I think you will enjoy the series if you read on.


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Rebecca (rebecca487) | 43 comments Susan wrote: "SO glad you enjoyed it, Rebecca! I will say that the first book is not the best (although very good) and the author did change Shardlake's 'sidekick' in later books. I think you will enjoy the seri..."

Really? Wow if the first book is not the best I am definitely more excited to read the rest because I could not put it down. I will be continuing on. As soon as I finished I went online and bought the next two books! I understand why you like it so much, it was really one of the best reads I have had this year.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1820 comments Judy wrote: "I'm reading A Test of Wills by mother and son team Charles Todd, the first in the Inspector Rutledge series.

I had high hopes for this one, as it is set in the 1920s and..."


I like the series. Actually I like both of their series. I wouldn't notice American turn of phrases since I am American.

It is a rare series showing someone working though suffering from PTSD.


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Betsy | 170 comments The Ian Rutledge series is one of my all-time favorites. I have read every book in the series. The Great War aspect is especially appealing.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, 'sidewalks' and 'cookies.' I said this in a review and some people agreed with me and others were not bothered. In the same way, I wouldn't expect 'pavements' and 'biscuits' in a American book, I expect language to be correct - both to the place and the time period.

I can't remember the book well enough, but I know I never read the second in the series and I wonder now whether that was one of the reasons? Does it bother anyone else - Jan you may say you wouldn't notice American phrases as you are American, but would you expect to find a 'cookie' in Victorian London?!


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11193 comments Mod
In this book it's mainly just the same couple of American terms which keep cropping up repeatedly, ie characters saying "gotten" and the use of "drapes" instead of "curtains". No cookies or sidewalks! To be honest, though, I might not have worried about this at all if the book overall was grabbing me more - as it is, I'm finding it a slight distraction.

I'm interested to hear you both enjoy this series, Jan and Betsy - can I ask, did you like the first book, or did it get better later on? I know sometimes I'm tempted to give up after one book of a series, only to discover that it really gets into its stride later!


message 367: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 170 comments I loved the first book, and I haved liked all the rest--some more and some less of course. There may be a difficulty with a few words, but the stories more than make up for them. I suppose it depends on what is important to you.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11193 comments Mod
Thanks, Betsy - I'm about halfway through now so I'll keep going and hope to enjoy the second half more.


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Damaskcat | 186 comments Susan wrote: "I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, 'sidewalks' and 'cookies.' I sai..."

I agree with you - that puts me off a book. If it is American and set in America - that's fine but if it's set in England then the language should be correct for that country and that time period.


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Jay-me (Janet)  | 164 comments "Susan wrote: "I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, sidewalks' and 'cookies.' I said this in a review and some people agreed with me and others were not bothered. In the same way, I wouldn't expect 'pavements' and 'biscuits' in a American book, I expect language to be correct - both to the place and the time period. ."

Damaskcat wrote: "I agree with you - that puts me off a book. If it is American and set in America - that's fine but if it's set in England then the language should be correct for that country and that time period. ..."

And the geography should be correct. I've said before in a similar discussion that I tend to steer away from American authors writing English regency style books after one dreadful example where the hero galloped from Cornwall to Yorkshire and back in less time than I could do it today with modern transport, and still found time to dig up his wife's father and rebury him along with having a headstone prepared with-my other pet hate - the wife's name as "maiden name- married name"


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HJ | 207 comments Susan wrote: "I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, 'sidewalks' and 'cookies.' I sai..."

I agree with you. It's just one of the basic things that an author should get right. If a book is set in a particular place or time period, then the appropriate language should be used.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
Jay-Me wrote: And the geography should be correct. I've said before in a similar discussion that I tend to steer away from American authors writing English regency style books after one dreadful example where the hero galloped from Cornwall to Yorkshire and back in less time than I could do it today with modern transport, and still found time to dig up his wife's father and rebury him along with having a headstone prepared with-my other pet hate - the wife's name as "maiden name- married name"

Yes, England is small, but not that small!


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Abigail Bok (regency_reader) | 1036 comments As an American reader, I’m bothered by Americanisms in books set in England as well, though I sympathize with American writers who aren’t aware of every single term that is different on opposite sides of the Atlantic. I’m working on a novel set in Surrey in the year 1800, and am always having to go back and recheck my language. I’m even using British spelling and usage (single quotation marks, etc.) because some of the British terms look wrong with American spellings. Immersing myself in books published in Britain helps.


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Betsy | 170 comments I just finished reading RICHARDSON'S FIRST CASE by Basil Thomson. This gives some background to the Richardson character since he is still a P.C. It's a quick, enjoyable read.


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HJ | 207 comments Abigail wrote: "... I’m working on a novel set in Surrey in the year 1800, and am always having to go back and recheck my language. I’m even using British spelling and usage (single quotation marks, etc.) because some of the British terms look wrong with American spellings. Immersing myself in books published in Britain helps. ..."


I think it really helps to read books written and published at the time, from Evelina to Jane Austen. One gets a feel for the rhythm of the language, as well as the vocabulary and usage. And reading several Georgette Heyer novels would also help -- she's very accurate on everything to do with the period.


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Abigail Bok (regency_reader) | 1036 comments HJ wrote, “I think it really helps to read books written and published at the time . . .”

Yes, you’ve listed some of my favorites! One of the stories in my series involves Fanny Burney, so I do read her a lot (and have read Austen and Heyer over and over since my teens). Evelina has some great set-pieces with good dialogue; and I have made a big file of vocabulary and phrases that she used. Right now I’m plowing through the 700-odd pages of the Parliamentary record for 1800 so as to get more of an ear for how men might talk about the issues of the day. I admit that the research part is more fun than the writing part!


message 377: by HJ (new)

HJ | 207 comments Abigail wrote: "Right now I’m plowing through the 700-odd pages of the Parliamentary record for 1800 so as to get more of an ear for how men might talk about the issues of the day. I admit that the research part is more fun than the writing part! ..."

Now that is real dedication! I suggested Heyer because, when I studied English Literature in "the long eighteenth century", I was amazed to discover how much of the vocabulary I already knew just from reading her Regency romances. I was also conversant with the way that ton society operated, and even things like different carriages etc. (let alone clothing), just from her books. I seriously recommend reading her Regency romances to anyone studying the period, as an enjoyable way of immersing oneself in the minutiae. We can benefit from all the primary research which she did!


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Abigail Bok (regency_reader) | 1036 comments Very true! We are all midgets standing on the shoulders of the giant Heyer.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1820 comments Susan wrote: "I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, 'sidewalks' and 'cookies.' I sai..."

Cookies vs. biscuits? We have cookies and biscuits but they are totally different. I don't know what the British call cookies. Do they have chocolate chip biscuits? I suppose that I might notice if it said what kind of cookies/biscuits were involved. Cookies are snacks or desserts. Biscuits are for breakfast or to be eaten with dinner (usually the more formal or celebratory kind; also known as rolls.

Curtains vs. drapes? We use both, pretty much interchangeably. Curtains may only reach to the window sill whereas drapes will usually reach the floor.

I did enjoy the first book immensely. And most of the books since. Although I have been reading A Long Shadow for quite a while. It is currently the book I carry around in my purse and I don't seem to be pulling it out very often to read.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Jan C wrote: "Susan wrote: "I will go with Judy here and say that I really dislike Americanisms in books where they shouldn't be. I read a mystery set in Victorian London once which mentioned, 'sidewalks' and 'c..."

Me too- both language errors and historical ones as well. Faucet vs Tap is another...

Though this is in a different context, sometime last year I read this book based on the Ramayana which had the characters talking in almost modern language- completely out of place and it was rather off-putting.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
It seems a small thing to have the incorrect language, but if it jars historically or geographically, there is a problem and authors should be sensitive to that. I would expect an author writing a historical mystery to check mistakes. I know an American author who writes a series of books (not mysteries) set in Liverpool and she always gets people from Liverpool/England (including myself) to read them before being published to check slang terms, etc. It seems a reasonable thing to do if you want to do it properly.


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HJ | 207 comments Jan C wrote: "Cookies vs. biscuits?..Curtains vs. drapes."

We don't use the word "cookie" in the UK even now, except to reflect an American influence. Our biscuits are your cookies. We don't have or eat your biscuits.

We never use "drapes" in the sense of "curtains", and I remember this really jarring when I read one Regency book which used "drapes" (I had to look it up).


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1820 comments HJ wrote: "Jan C wrote: "Cookies vs. biscuits?..Curtains vs. drapes."

We don't use the word "cookie" in the UK even now, except to reflect an American influence. Our biscuits are your cookies. We don't have ..."


Not sure whether Wilde or Shaw said it first - two countries divided by a single language.


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Everyman | 540 comments I'm reading That Affair Next door, by Anna Katharine Green. It started out very well, but about half way through it started to drag, and now I'm skimming more than reading. The main character is fun, a sort of Tish figure, but she's the only really interesting character.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Everyman wrote: "I'm reading That Affair Next door, by Anna Katharine Green. It started out very well, but about half way through it started to drag, and now I'm skimming more than reading. The main character is fu..."

I've read one by her before- it wasn't bad but since the denouement came about half way through the book, the rest seemed too stretched out.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I have just started The Hanging Club by Tony Parsons - the latest in a contemporary crime series which is very good.


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Damaskcat | 186 comments I've just read the first Miss Seeton book - what a marvellous character!

Picture Miss Seeton


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Akash Parakandy (akash3hk) | 5 comments I just completed Agatha Christie's series featuring Tommy and Tuppence.
#1 The Secret Adversary
#2 Partners in Crime
#3 N or M?
#4 By the Pricking of My Thumbs
#5 Postern of Fate

Now I had started the Nancy Drew series(1-56) completing one story a day.
Current status: 4 down 52 to go…


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Susan Davis | 36 comments Death of A Dishonorable Gentleman. Enjoying this country house party mystery.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Akash wrote: "I just completed Agatha Christie's series featuring Tommy and Tuppence.
#1 The Secret Adversary
#2 Partners in Crime
#3 N or M?
#4 By the Pricking of My Thumbs
#5 Postern of Fate

Now I had start..."


Tommy and Tuppence- I love those two. The last one I didn't like too much but after reading Agatha Christie's autobio, it began to make more sense.

I also love the original Nancy Drew stories and still read them from time to time.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Just got stared with Strong Poison. Hope I don't forget it before the discussion next month.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I just started it too, Lady Clementina. I haven't read it before, so this is my first encounter with Harriet Vane. Very exciting!


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11193 comments Mod
I'm just reading Georgette Heyer's second Superintendent Hannasyde mystery, Behold, Here's Poison, and so far finding it very witty, but hard to tell some of the characters apart! I'm not all that far in yet, though.

I was surprised to see that the solicitor from Death in the Stocks, Giles Carrington, who I think was everyone's favourite character, turns up again here - hoping he gets a chance to do some sleuthing! I wonder if Heyer ever considered turning him into her series detective?


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 686 comments Judy wrote: "I'm just reading Georgette Heyer's second Superintendent Hannasyde mystery, Behold, Here's Poison, and so far finding it very witty, but hard to tell some of the characters apart! I'm..."

I suspect she did,then decided to stick with Hannasyde & Hemingway. I'm still trying to acquire some of her mysteries - none have tuned up at my work for quite a while.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11193 comments Mod
That's a shame, Carol - hope some turn up soon!


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂  | 686 comments Judy wrote: "That's a shame, Carol - hope some turn up soon!"

Ha! I could get the lot but I'm too cheap frugal to pay retail. I did acquire Penhallow at our town's dump shop a few months ago though.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Susan wrote: "I just started it too, Lady Clementina. I haven't read it before, so this is my first encounter with Harriet Vane. Very exciting!"

Mine too- I've only read about three Sayers books before and none of those have Vane.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Carol ♔ Type, Oh Queen! ♔ wrote: "Judy wrote: "That's a shame, Carol - hope some turn up soon!"

Ha! I could get the lot but I'm too cheap frugal to pay retail. I did acquire Penhallow at our town's dump shop a few mo..."


I liked Penhallow very much- it doesn't really qualify as a mystery as much as a character study but it was really good.


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
I just started a European thriller called The Trap. Good premise, but undecided so far...


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Susan | 13278 comments Mod
Also reading Sharon Bolton's new book Daisy in Chains Daisy in Chains by Sharon Bolton . REALLY good so far - anyone else like her books?


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