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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Susan wrote: "Let me know if you get approved for the book, Lady. I will hope you are successful :)"

Oh-I forgot to say, it sn't being offered for review yet- just on the wish for it list.


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Susan | 13618 comments Mod
I wished for it too, LC. I suspect we will be two among many, but hope anyone on Detectives who did the same, are successful.

I just finished The Death of Mrs. Westaway The Death of Mrs. Westaway by Ruth Ware which reminded me how much I like Ruth Ware


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Annabel wrote: "Re snobbishness, the difference for me with Tey and Marsh is the dislike they seem to feel for their lower-class creations. Their disdain is clear in every word. Whereas Christie, Wentworth and Sayers, to my mind, while innately upper middle class and a bit patronising towards the lower classes, write affectionately and with understanding..."

I agree. That is why I do not enjoy Tey and enjoy Marsh only sporadically.


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Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments Finished Death in a White Tie, Police at the Funeral and The Mystery of the Blue Train
Now starting Fade Away by Harlan Coben book 3 in the Marlon Bolitar series


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ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Jill wrote: "Finished Death in a White Tie, Police at the Funeral..."

I'm on the waitlist for Death In A White Tie, Jill. Did you like it?


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Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments S Dizzy wrote: "Jill wrote: "Finished Death in a White Tie, Police at the Funeral..."

I'm on the waitlist for Death In A White Tie, Jill. Did you like it?"


Yes it was good . The only thing is I'm not too keen on romance in these books, but I am able to overlook it as I did like the plot .


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Susan | 13618 comments Mod
Jill, you are forging ahead! I'm currently listening to The Pale Horse. If I have read it, it must have been a while ago, as I don't recall the plot. Like Hallowe'en Party it is one of her later books and has the delightful Ariadne Oliver as a character (which I'd forgotten) and Christie dubiously trying to get to grips with coffee bars and Teddy Boys :)


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Susan wrote: "Jill, you are forging ahead! I'm currently listening to The Pale Horse."

The Pale Horse is one of the few late Christie mysteries I enjoy. Mrs. Oliver is always fun!


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Jill wrote: "Finished Death in a White Tie..."

I enjoyed Death in a White Tie more than other Marsh books.


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Susan | 13618 comments Mod
Me too, Paperbackreader. The one I have enjoyed most, so far.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
I'm already reading too many books, but picked up The Singing Sands, the last novel in the Alan Grant series by Josephine Tey, and was instantly hooked. The only problem is that Grant gets a poem on his brain in this book, and I now have it on my brain too!


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Finished The Case of the Gilded Fly. Had a hard time finishing this one. I don't think I will be reading anything by Crispin again.


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Sandy | 4350 comments Mod
Paperbackreader wrote: "Finished The Case of the Gilded Fly. Had a hard time finishing this one. I don't think I will be reading anything by Crispin again."

I, on the other hand, am rationing out my last few Crispin's as I do enjoy Fen's dry wit.

Luckily there is something for every taste.


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Sandy wrote: "I, on the other hand, am rationing out my last few Crispin's as I do enjoy Fen's dry wit.

Luckily there is something for every taste."


Hmm I am curious. I have read only The Case of the Gilded Fly. So, I cannot comment on other Fen mysteries. But what did you enjoy about The Case of the Gilded Fly? I always enjoy hearing about other viewpoints. :)


message 3065: by Susan (new)

Susan | 13618 comments Mod
It is true that some author's books appeals and others don't. I have struggled with both Allingham and Tey in particular, but I enjoy Fen - I find them fairly funny and I enjoy the Oxford setting in the early books.


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Susan wrote: "It is true that some author's books appeals and others don't. I have struggled with both Allingham and Tey in particular, but I enjoy Fen - I find them fairly funny and I enjoy the Oxford setting in the early books."

I have struggled with Allingham and Tey too.

I agree about the humor part. That was the only bright spot in The Case of the Gilded Fly for me.


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Susan | 13618 comments Mod
If you struggle with an author, there are plenty more who will appeal, which is the plus point to remember :)


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Susan wrote: "If you struggle with an author, there are plenty more who will appeal, which is the plus point to remember :)"

Someone in a book-related group that I am part of on facebook pointed out that a million + books have been published in the first half of this year alone--so there really are several billions of fish to pick from!


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Susan wrote: "If you struggle with an author, there are plenty more who will appeal, which is the plus point to remember :)"

But there are only so many GA authors I can choose from. So, when one of them disappoints me, it depresses me a bit.


message 3070: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments Paperbackreader wrote: "Finished The Case of the Gilded Fly. Had a hard time finishing this one. I don't think I will be reading anything by Crispin again."

I felt like you regarding Crispin, but I will probably read another of his books, just to give him a fair try. I found it was his rambling and attitude I didn't like, but as this was the first book , I'm wondering if he improves.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
Crispin was very young when he wrote Gilded Fly, but I actually preferred it to the next one, Holy Disorders. I do agree he can be a bit rambling, but still enjoy him.


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments Jill wrote: "I felt like you regarding Crispin, but I will probably read another of his books, just to give him a fair try. I found it was his rambling and attitude I didn't like, but as this was the first book , I'm wondering if he improves."

I normally give authors a second chance. It is only fair. I was wondering if if Crispin's writing changes with time. For example, is there is a reduction of the level of sexism? I guess it bothered me because it is not just there is casual sexism in his writing. God knows many of my favorite GA authors wrote enough sexist/racist/classist stuff! But I felt the entire story was drenched in it. The victim is blamed incessantly and the actions of the perpetrator is justified incessantly. It became a bit too much.

In addition to all that, the detective withholds information, not entirely fair in a detective story from my point of view. Also, when the motive is finally revealed it seems to come out of nowhere.


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Jan C (woeisme) | 1865 comments Judy wrote: "Crispin was very young when he wrote Gilded Fly, but I actually preferred it to the next one, Holy Disorders. I do agree he can be a bit rambling, but still enjoy him."

I'm currently working on Holy Disorders. It is kind of rambling and confusing. But I am st8cking with it because, if it is anything like Gilded Fly, it will pick up and be worth it in the long run. So far I have enjoyed Crispin's humor.


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Susan | 13618 comments Mod
I like Crispin and keep meaning to read the whole series.


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Lady Clementina ffinch-ffarowmore | 1237 comments Susan wrote: "I like Crispin and keep meaning to read the whole series."

I have a couple on my TBR which I must get to soon.


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Lorraine Petkus | 43 comments I stopped reading Crispin after his 3rd book, the Floating Toyshop which I hated but this was more then 20 years ago, maybe it's time to give him another chance. Being a senior I can't remember why I disliked it so much


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ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Susan wrote: "I like Crispin and keep meaning to read the whole series."

Susan, Crispin's Fen series is, in my opinion, hilarious!!!! Especially the last one (Glimpses of the Moon, though many did not like this last installment). ((here is my review of it https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)) I simply HAD TO purchase the entire Gervase Fen series. The absurd characters and British wit at its finest...oh! and there are some interesting mysteries as well.


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Paperbackreader | 64 comments S Dizzy wrote: "Susan, Crispin's Fen series is, in my opinion, hilarious!!!! Especially the last one (Glimpses of the Moon, though many did not like this last installment). ((here is my review of it https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...)) I simply HAD TO purchase the entire Gervase Fen series. The absurd characters and British wit at its finest...oh! and there are some interesting mysteries as well. "

I agree about the humor. I highlighted the real funny lines from the book on my Kindle!

But for me, the things that bothered me outweighed my appreciation for his wit. I have explained those in my review of the book, https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Does Crispin's writing change with the rest of the books of the series, is a question I had. I really hate losing a GA author! :(


message 3079: by Susan (new)

Susan | 13618 comments Mod
S Dizzy - that review brightened up my morning - inspired!

Paperbackreader, I am sorry, I have only read the first three, I think, so I can't be of help.


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ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Susan wrote: "S Dizzy - that review brightened up my morning - inspired!


Thank you Susan, it was a lot fun to read. It was as if Crispin let his imagination have free rein and gave us a front row seat. And Paperbackreader, I am sorry that you don't find Crispin's stories entertaining.



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ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Paperbackreader wrote: "Jill wrote: "Finished Death in a White Tie..."

I enjoyed Death in a White Tie more than other Marsh books."


I agree. I felt that it was a step up from her previous Alleyn stories.


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ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Jill wrote: "Jill wrote: " ...Yes it was good . The only thing is I'm not too keen on romance in these books, but I am able to overlook it as I did like the plot ."

Jill, I too enjoyed this story. It made Alleyn more mature and relatable than in previous stories, in my opinion.


message 3083: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 4350 comments Mod
Dizzy, that is a wonderful review of Crispen. I love his humor.


message 3084: by ShanDizzy (new)

ShanDizzy  (sdizzy) | 153 comments Sandy wrote: "Dizzy, that is a wonderful review of Crispen. I love his humor."

Thanks Sandy. That story was sooo much fun to read! ((I'm still chuckling as I remember it.))


message 3085: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments Finished The Pale Horse Now starting Lamentation by C.J. Sansom I have had this book for some years but have been holding off reading it , as I wasn't sure if there would be any further books left in this series to look forward to. Now I know there is, I can go ahead and wallow in it!


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Lorraine Petkus | 43 comments Started reading The White Cottage by Margery Allingham. Finished Keep it Quiet by Richard Hull, I loved it but I also love PG Wodehouse. My copy had the first chapter of The Ghost it Was which hooked me but it's out of print. I've emailed Crime Classics asking if they plan to reprint.


message 3087: by Judy (new)

Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
Lorraine, that's so annoying. As they included the first chapter, though, I'm guessing they must plan to reprint. Is Richard Hull's style similar to Wodehouse?


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
Jill, I’ve started The Pale Horse too - enjoying it so far. I’m so pleased to meet Ariadne Oliver again!


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Lorraine Petkus | 43 comments Judy, the characters in the gentlemen's club are very similar to Wodehouse characters. This is the only Hull book I've read don't think others are similar. I have The Murder of My Aunt, will report after I finish it. It's a small book.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
The title The Murder of My Aunt sounds quite Wodehousian, Lorraine!


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
I've only read three Crispin mysteries so far, Paperbackreader - I enjoy his humour a lot, but must agree there is a lot of sexism in The Case of the Gilded Fly. This did not strike me in the other two.


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Gary Sundell | 292 comments Currently reading two mystery novels.

Divas, Diamonds & Death the 15th in the long running shared universe Danger Cove cozy series.

Returning to more classic fare

Cop Hater by Ed McBain The first of the 87th Precinct books.


message 3093: by Susan (new)

Susan | 13618 comments Mod
Love Ed McBain, Gary. I recall him being a big favourite of mine when I was at Uni (long time ago!).

I am currently reading The Alienist for my non-Goodreads book group. One of those books I have long meant to read, but never done so.


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Lorraine Petkus | 43 comments Judy wrote: "The title The Murder of My Aunt sounds quite Wodehousian, Lorraine!"
Finished The Murder of My Aunt, and you are correct, Hull in these 2 books is a dark Wodehouse. It was a fast humorous read. In the forward of my book it indicated that the 1912 The Singing Bones by R Austin Freeman was the first to use the inverted detective story. Of course I had to see if it was available on Amazon, it was for 99 cents. My tbr books are getting bigger every day.


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Judy (wwwgoodreadscomprofilejudyg) | 11442 comments Mod
Lorraine wrote: "My tbr books are getting bigger every day ..."

I feel your pain, Lorraine. I'm also now very intrigued by the sound of Richard Hull.


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Christine PNW (moonlight_reader) | 38 comments I am rereading The Murder on the Links by Agatha Christie for my Christie publication order reread, which I have basically just begun!

I am also reading The Overlook by Michael Connelly, which is part of my HBU (Harry Bosch Universe) project.


message 3097: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments Finished Lamentation Great book. Now reading Trial by fire by Frances Fyfield and Thin Air by Michelle Paver


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Tania | 462 comments I'm reading The Cornish Coast Murder which I am not yet far into. Other books keep getting in the way, but I think I'm going to enjoy this one.


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Jill (dogbotsmum) | 2687 comments Just over half way through The Gallows Curse by Karen Maitland I have read two of this author's , and although I am liking this, at the moment I am not finding it as good as the others. Hopefully I will change my mind before the end


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