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message 1: by Booknut, Head Moderator (new)

Booknut 101 (booknut101) | 515 comments Mod
What do you think will happen to/regarding The King of Adarlan over the course of the series? Do you think he'll live or die in the end? Comment below!


message 2: by Steven (new)

Steven (stevensu) | 4 comments I think the king will most likely die or be cast into another dimension. But what's most interesting is that there are tiny hints that his motivations may not be pure evil. There's that one time he is ponders about Dorian and even praises him (not verbally) that Dorian stood up to him and that Dorian could be a good king.
However, there's very little indication of what the king is really up to, but I highly doubt it's simply conquering the world, even though that's what we're led to believe.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah he needs to die.


message 4: by Alexis (new)

Alexis (TigeroftheTowerGuard) | 356 comments I think the king is possessed by one of those demon things. (Forget what they're called.) I also think it happens at a young age. Aelin talked about him doing something to her when he was visiting her kingdom. I think he'll end up dying regardless of whether or not he's exorcised. Forgive me for sounding "Return of the Jedi"-ish, but think Dorian needs to be the one to confront him.


message 5: by Laura (new)

Laura | 102 comments Neona wrote: "Yeah he needs to die."

I laughed out loud at that. Put it so simply.


message 6: by Helena (new)

Helena I hope the king will get brutally tortured, get all the life sucked out of him by the valg, and tossed into a volcano. :)


message 7: by Jenny (new)

Jenny Zeng (infinite_pages) | 1 comments I HATE HIM SO MUCH. HE CAN GO DIE AND ROT IN AN AWFUL PLACE. I DON'T CARE WHERE BUT THE KING IS A DISGUSTING BEING. lol I think that's all I have to say


message 8: by Lois (new)

Lois Helengifford90 wrote: "I hope the king will get brutally tortured, get all the life sucked out of him by the valg, and tossed into a volcano. :)"

Hahaha, yes I would love to see this happen! Though would Aelin or Dorian get the honours? :')


message 9: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments Helengifford90 wrote: "I hope the king will get brutally tortured, get all the life sucked out of him by the valg, and tossed into a volcano. :)"

Laughed at that. YES that is what should happen to him!

I'm actually really curious as to why the king hates magic so much. Why did he ban it? How does (view spoiler)? At first I thought the king built those (view spoiler)


message 10: by Noris (new)

Noris | 574 comments I don't think he hates magic, is just that he's selfish and he wants it all for himself. He likes power, and power is exactly what magic is.


message 11: by Lexie (new)

Lexie So does anyone know the King's actual name?


message 12: by [deleted user] (new)

Lexie wrote: "So does anyone know the King's actual name?"

I don't think it was ever revealed. But Sarah J Maas says that maybe it will be revealed in a future book.


message 13: by Saira (new)

Saira | 3 comments But what if the king is just a fraud, he looks nothing like Dorian and we know he is royalty because has Gavins eyes and Elenas magic, so is he not the real king or something.


message 14: by Anna (new)

Anna | 142 comments I think he might be the dark lord Erawan, or like his brother or something. The King started messing with Wyrdkeys and the tomb when he was young according to Mort, probably did something messing with dark magic that he may or may not have meant to do and then a dark lord took over him. I think it goes back to what Cain said in Throne of Glass, that theyre all players brought here in the unfinished game.


message 15: by Jess S (last edited Aug 13, 2015 05:00PM) (new)

Jess S (mintchip) | 267 comments I think the King was abused or torchered by magic at a young age by maybe brother or his father...maybe. I think the King always had magic...just not to the lengths that Dorian does. Thats why he needed the keys. Anyway I think that because he was abused by magic he wanted to take it way from everyone but himself. He started out just like Dorian loving to read and researching books, but somehow that hunger for knowledge turned into hunger for power. Maybe he was lonely without friends and opened a portal after he got the first key and was seduced by someone from another world and possessed.

What we know:
He discovered the first key at around 20 years of age (according to Mort) and built the clocktower for Dorians birth (according to Chaol) and 8 years after that cast his spell. And 8/9 years after that turned his sights to developing his slave trade. The commander at Noll said the king visited the Volcano to grab the second key 10 years ago in (HoF) so that means Aelin was 8 or 9, so probably just before he visited Terrasen and tormented Aelin during dinner. I also think its safe to assume that during the stages of ToG he commissioned the making of the wayverns. I forget where he supposedly went during the King's Champion contest.

As for the King being surprised about Dorians magic... I think he's probably been looking for signs for the last few years and dont forget his cousin Rolland? is it had a ring on in CoM and was following Dorian. Dorian felt eyes on him when he went to see Yellowlegs and Celaena found out shortly after she sold Dorian out...I think it was to Rolland and in turn the king.I just dont think the King knew by HoF just HOW powerful Dorian actually was...I think the king maybe suspected he had minimal power like himself (well before the keys that is)

I do think at this stage in the series the King is no longer concerned with heirs so Dorian is really just a tool and expendable to him. My reasoning for this is he has two keys at this point all his nasty plans have gone from a drawing board to actual creation he has a massive monster army. His own Black wayvern puppet army and control of most of Erilea. He's beyond power hungry and probably feels its not impossible for him to get that third key and make himself immortal or something. An immortal really doesnt need heirs.

I do feel that its Dorians job to overthrow his father. Chaol doesnt want to ask it of him but I think thats the reality. Aelin can't do it on her own. I think it will have to be Aelin and Dorian together. Dorian to incompassitate him and Aelin to finish the job.


message 16: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Love it Jess. I agree. Adding to your comment that the King probably doesn't care that much about Dorian and sees him as expendable, he always has Hollin as another heir to him. Besides I go by the theory that the king isn't Dorian's real father. I really want to know the King's name! Does anyone else?


message 17: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (unapologeticallya) | 62 comments I want to know the king's name too!! It's probably something really unintimidating and that's why he doesn't tell anybody lol XD


message 18: by Kelly (new)

Kelly (unapologeticallya) | 62 comments The king is definitely a horrible person from what we've seen of him. But I saw a theory online that said what if the King isn't the one doing all these things, but someone is controlling him- just like how we understand right now that he is controlling the valg princes. We have never actually seen the king in possession of a wyrdkey- we only have Mort's word. So Mort could be in on the plot of whoever is controlling the king. And that is the person who really wants to conquer Erilea.

It's a very far-off theory and there's a good chance that it won't happen, but I think it would be SUCH a big plot twist if it did. What if towards the end of QoS, Aelin or Dorian kills the King and then directly after they learn that it actually wasn't him this whole time.


message 19: by Lexie (new)

Lexie That's a good theory. It makes sense too, sometimes I get the feeling the king is so evil he's not even human. There's this theory that maybe he's the dark lord (I think his name is Erawan or so,etching like that) that Gavin and Elena fought all those years ago and now he's back.


message 20: by Alexis (new)

Alexis (TigeroftheTowerGuard) | 356 comments That does make sense. Might also explain why he and Dorian look nothing alike. The king used to look like his son but changed physiologically after he became possessed. Dorian was born or conceived before hand, Hollin after.


message 21: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Or the king isn't even Dorian's father at all.


message 22: by Serena (new)

Serena | 160 comments That's also possible, Lexie. I read an interview somewhere where someone asked Sarah J. Maas what the king's name was, but she wouldn't tell and said it was a spoiler.


message 23: by Fatima (new)

Fatima  Havilliard (heirofashandfire) | 92 comments Lexie your theory is good but Sarah say that the King and Erawan aren't the same person. u.u The theory of Kelly is good too. I search theories online and I will share with all of you. ^^


message 24: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Oh ok. I kinda wish we knew a bit more about the king of Adarlan, what his motives are. I'm someone who thinks villains are only evil for a reason, something that's happened to them. I don't think any characters can just be naturally evil. There has to be a reason.


message 25: by Rachel , Co-Moderator (new)

Rachel  (APCB Reviews) (gr8rach) | 185 comments Mod
THIS GUY HAS GOT TO GO. That is my main thought on him xD


message 26: by Grace Meredith (new)

Grace Meredith (koreantrash) Rachel wrote: "THIS GUY HAS GOT TO GO. That is my main thought on him xD"

I agree Rachel! Celaena should slaughter him! Or maybe the people will raid the castle and save Dorian, but rampage the King!


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