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message 51: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments Stephanie wrote: "I may be alone in this, but I didn't care for Sorscha. Never really saw her and Dorian ending up together. I didn't buy this "deep love" they supposedly have. It truly didn't feel that way to me as..."

Same here. I knew that she was going to die like Sam, Aelin first love


message 52: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Yeah not to sound insensitive, but I haven't even read about Sorscha yet and I don't care that much for her. I don't think I'll care that much when she shows up. Does she first appear in CoM or HoF?


message 53: by [deleted user] (new)

HoF, she's a really sweet character.


message 54: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Oh ok. I thought she'd show up in CoM.


message 55: by Katrina♡•• (new)

Katrina♡•• | 65 comments Stephanie wrote: "I may be alone in this, but I didn't care for Sorscha. Never really saw her and Dorian ending up together. I didn't buy this "deep love" they supposedly have. It truly didn't feel that way to me as..."
I did not care about her neither


message 56: by Jess (new)

Jess Munnery (jmunners) | 46 comments Absolutely the same! No romances have gone well so far, so I just sort of glance over them now, I'll take them seriously in the last 50 pages in the last book. I've been heart broken too many times already by this woman!
It may be because I want Aelin with Dorian (or if not, Rowan) that I didn't like Sorsha. Hell, I hated her. Wanted her away. Forgot she existed after reading the book.
...Yeah, you're not alone at all! Ha!


message 57: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Sorry I didn't know where I should post this so I thought why not on the thread of my favourite character? But does anyone know where I might be able to read the original story Queen of Glass? It was taken off Fictionpress but I'm just wondering if there is anywhere else or any other way to read it, I really want to. Help?


message 58: by Ale (new)

Ale (bookishunicorn) I'm not really sure if you can find it. Some people have managed to do so, but sharing is not an option since it violates copyright.


message 59: by Abbey (new)

Abbey (ash12) | 52 comments I thought sorscha might be Elide (cos she was contacting ren)


message 60: by Jess (new)

Jess Munnery (jmunners) | 46 comments Really interesting thought, would be sad that she didn't get to see Aelin (though I don't think it would have been a big reunion thing anyway). Quite dramatic fall, to feel a loss of two characters in one blow. Maas style so it's possible!
Her feature will probably tell us, skin type, eyes, hair etc. Should be able to get an idea through re-reading!


message 61: by Sofia (new)

Sofia | 41 comments Dorian + Aelin are endgame! Remember how in HoF Chaol said that Celaena would always choose him, but Aelin would not?


message 62: by Joy (new)

Joy | 2 comments Hey guys, I need help xD I forget who Elide and Asterin are. Can someone give a quick description? I totally forgot lol


message 63: by Fatima (new)

Fatima  Havilliard (heirofashandfire) | 92 comments Asterin Blackbeak is an Ironteeth witch, Manon Blackbeak's cousin and most trusted member out of the Thirteen.

Elide Lochan is a female character visible on Sarah's Pinterest. She is probably going to be in book 4.


message 64: by Grace Meredith (new)

Grace Meredith (koreantrash) I want Dorian to die :( He's getting so boring and cliche.


message 65: by Joy (new)

Joy | 2 comments Thanks :)


message 66: by Lexie (new)

Lexie DUDE! HOW COULD YOU WANT DORIAN TO DIE???!!! His storyline is getting the MOST interesting after HoF and in my opinion ha was good all along. Dorian is my favourite character he CANNOT DIE! He needs to become the good, honourable benevolent king of Adarlan that his father wasn't.


message 67: by Fatima (new)

Fatima  Havilliard (heirofashandfire) | 92 comments Grace Meredith wrote: "I want Dorian to die :( He's getting so boring and cliche."

How can you say that!!!! He is a very important character for the plot.


message 68: by Katrina♡•• (new)

Katrina♡•• | 65 comments Dorian cannot die!


message 69: by Lexie (new)

Lexie @Helena Same here.


message 70: by Blake (new)

Blake Farron I admit I don't love him, but I do like him. It's jus I don't think Maas has been writing him to his potential, she's not givig his characters enough justice. Now in OoS Im not expecting much, he's possessed after all, but I think after that he can have some great development and become a great character, I just know he has the potential to become one of my favourites, and I eagerly await that day!


message 71: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie  (sinmotion) | 234 comments Kate wrote: "I admit I don't love him, but I do like him. It's jus I don't think Maas has been writing him to his potential, she's not givig his characters enough justice. Now in OoS Im not expecting much, he's..."


I agree with Kate that Maas has been killing his character within the pages. HE doesn't come across as strong as he did in the first two books, which pisses me off. However, it's even more frustrating bc there is so much potential for him to be a fully formed three-dimensional character if Sarah would just get her shit together where it concerns writing him. He didn't have much of a voice in HoF and so I hope things are different in the upcoming book.

I would be devastated if something happened to Dorian though. I would curse Sarah to the deepest pits of hell.

As for Grace's comment, I reckon it's bc she fears where he will go. I feel the same way about Chaol. I'd be just fine if he died.


message 72: by Grace Meredith (new)

Grace Meredith (koreantrash) Oh my god guys, I just realized that was a bit drastic. I just really don't like him as a character. I always thought he was a bit wimpy and he never really stood up to his father and made a change. But I do recall now that he has MAGGGGGIC and seriously that's amazing. He could become really badass LOL I hope he does. But his whole journey has just been so painful for him! And for us!

I really didn't mean to offend those Dorian-lovers out there, I have just been Team Chaol from the MOMENT WE MET HIM. I'm going to reread the series soon so that I'm ready for Queen of Shadows, and maybe my standing will change, I dunno.

Seriously, the responses after my comment *giggles* you guys are so committed, it's adorable.

DO WE HAVE ANY CHAOL HARDCORE FANS OUT THERE SO I DON'T FEEL SO ALONE?

guys…?


message 73: by Lexie (new)

Lexie It's okay Grace. I'm sure there's fans for EVERY character in ToG. It's not safe to say you want any character to die. Oh, except for Arobynn and the king of course... I'm mainly talking about the good characters.


message 74: by Lexie (new)

Lexie It's okay Grace. I'm sure there's fans for EVERY character in ToG. It's not safe to say you want any character to die. Oh, except for Arobynn and the king of course... I'm mainly talking about the good characters.


message 75: by Grace Meredith (new)

Grace Meredith (koreantrash) Lexie wrote: "It's okay Grace. I'm sure there's fans for EVERY character in ToG. It's not safe to say you want any character to die. Oh, except for Arobynn and the king of course... I'm mainly talking about the ..."

Yeah totally. LOL

P.S. Where are my Chaol fans? People i need your support.


message 76: by Alexis (new)

Alexis (TigeroftheTowerGuard) | 356 comments Over on the Chaol thread. lol! and you are not alone.


message 77: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 24 comments After what the king did to him, Dorian will finally stand up for himself ( because he will never ever be on his father's side again). I think if he's freed, he won't see the king as his father anymore.


message 78: by Lexie (new)

Lexie @Melanie Definitely.


message 79: by Jess (new)

Jess | 72 comments At least we all know for sure he'll be freed eventually!


message 80: by Natalie (new)

Natalie Woodruff | 23 comments Melanie wrote: "After what the king did to him, Dorian will finally stand up for himself ( because he will never ever be on his father's side again). I think if he's freed, he won't see the king as his father anym..."

I agree with you. After all the King did to him (and the world), he will definately fight back. Infact, I don't even think the king is Dorian's real father.


message 81: by sophie (new)

sophie (flowersforallmyrooms) Dorian must live. I refuse to accept any other possibilities.


message 82: by Lexie (new)

Lexie Sophie I agree completely.


message 83: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments EOS SPOILERS:



Everyone is talking about Asking sacrifing herself to make the lock. What if .. What if Dorian do it instead of her ?
He is a heir of Mala too and he can be a scion. Oh guys, I have the worst feeling ever. He is my favourite character, why I'm getting the feeling that he is going to die. Remember, there is a line where he said: "It's not a bad feeling is it - to die for your friends" IS THIS A FORESHADOWING ?


Jo Jo Binks (Lily) | 177 comments What if they forge it together and it stops them from dying?


message 85: by Mirou (new)

Mirou | 186 comments Lily-Jo wrote: "What if they forge it together and it stops them from dying?"

That would be the optimistic theory.
I hope so anyway ..


message 86: by Maria (new)

Maria (mariajmorillo) | 60 comments There's a line...one tiny little line during the battle against Maeve's ships where Dorian is fighting and it is mentioned he felt ice and fire inside of him. I think it's the first time ever Dorian uses his raw magic as fire, or even feels it as fire. I think that's foreshadowing and I think Dorian will be the one to do it. I'm scared because he's my favorite and I don't want him to die


message 87: by Laura (new)

Laura | 71 comments I really hope he doesn't sacrifice himself, that'd be so sad! But I sort of got a vibe in the book that he might :'(


message 88: by Laura✧˚ · . (new)

Laura✧˚ · . (shelby_) | 132 comments Well I always thougt that Dorian and Celaena eventually get married so I think Rowan will die in the last book. But I don't think Celaena will love Dorian maybe they'll rule the world together or something...


message 89: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 182 comments I think one very important fact is being dismissed here; this is -Aelin's- story. Who she ends up with should be a good match for -her-, who makes -her- happy.


message 90: by Laura✧˚ · . (new)

Laura✧˚ · . (shelby_) | 132 comments Yeah Dawn that's True. I want Aelin to be happy and sometimes I think that maybe I would like to see her alone not with anyone. But after EoS It's pretty clear with who She will end up with. But I don't really care. I just want to see all of them happy


imashamedofmyoldreviews (pleasedontjudgeme_ichanged) I've lost hope in everyone I ever shipped with Aelin (except Sam, though but he's dead). I'm just trying to accept whatever I get.


message 92: by Lena (last edited Sep 22, 2016 09:28AM) (new)

Lena (booksruletheworld) | 56 comments Laura wrote: "I really hope he doesn't sacrifice himself, that'd be so sad! But I sort of got a vibe in the book that he might :'("

I agree with everything you said in your post! I have a feeling that this whole series won't end good for him -_- I would never get over Dorian dying tbh, he's my favorite :(((
I also really don't like Manorian cause I think their whole relationship is based on physical attraction only. Idk on the one hand, I want him to have someone who makes him happy. But on the other hand, Dorian doesn't need anyone to be awesome. Nor does Manon. They'd be better off friends in my opinion. Whomever Dorian chooses though, I'll be okay with. They all deserve their happy end <3


imashamedofmyoldreviews (pleasedontjudgeme_ichanged) Lena wrote: "Laura wrote: "I really hope he doesn't sacrifice himself, that'd be so sad! But I sort of got a vibe in the book that he might :'("

I agree with everything you said in your post! I have a feeling ..."


Yes, I agree


Jo Jo Binks (Lily) | 177 comments Can I join you? I am a mess after reading that. :'(


message 95: by Lena (last edited Sep 22, 2016 03:05PM) (new)

Lena (booksruletheworld) | 56 comments @Fangirl CAN U NOT?! But yeah I agree. I just can't imagine that SJM would kill off the one who started it all...
Dorian though...After all he's been through and the "It is not such such a hard thing, is it - to die for your friends." line, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be him...
Bring on 2k17 to get it over with so I can cry forever bc Dorian. He deserves so much better. He's the one who's done so much for all of them.(view spoiler) I just ADKSJDH he's my son! The most precious cinnamon roll in the universe. I would die right along with him tbh!


message 96: by Tristen (new)

Tristen (bo0kenthusiast) BUT THEN WHO WOULD RULE ADARLAN?!?!? *cries*


message 97: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 182 comments Aelin could rule it, no? She has legit, albeit distant, blood ties to Adarlan through Elena. Or possibly Chaol.


imashamedofmyoldreviews (pleasedontjudgeme_ichanged) May-maybe Mano-n. Cause ohf Manori-rian.
*more inconsolable crying and stuttering*


message 99: by Lena (new)

Lena (booksruletheworld) | 56 comments Guys pls stop, you're all killing me *more crying *


MyOwnBookAdventures (lunamyownbookadventures) | 30 comments nope nope nope. no. Dorian will live. I will not believe Dorian freaking Havilliard will die in ToG6.


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