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message 651: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Jane wrote: "People are not listening. I'm still getting effing Christmas letters."

Their pleasure is your pain is our pleasure. I hope they keep them coming if they continue to inspire giggle-fit posts like this. I love the names you come up with!


message 652: by Jane (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Dwayne is going to effing well love this...

They are STILL coming.

Today's offering sees Verruca and Mephistopheles settled at the Old Rectory in the quaint village of Toothbrush-cum-Twat in east Anglia. Their darling offspring Erratum and Cablestitch are now at boarding school and Verruca has picked up the reins of her interior design business as if she has never been away. Ho hum.


message 653: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Jane wrote: " Ho hum."

I dare you to send a letter back to each of them saying just that. "Ho hum."


message 654: by Jane (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Get thee behind me satan!!!!


message 655: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Ya know, I never really got that. Is Satan the kind of guy you really want out of your line of sight?


message 656: by Rohvannyn (new)

Rohvannyn Shaw | 189 comments @Jane: Verruca? As in Verruca Vulgaris? As in warts? *rolling on the floor laughing* We always say "Joe and Janie six pack with their kids Knothead and Junior." I like yours better.


message 657: by Rohvannyn (last edited Dec 22, 2016 05:27PM) (new)

Rohvannyn Shaw | 189 comments I hate to bring things down but something that has got me mad, really mad, is finding out about all the abuse that happens at Worldcon and around SFWA meetings, and how many apologists there are who've defended it over the years. Some really sick stuff, even stuff involving kids, and it totally taints my enjoyment of certain well known, mainstream authors. How can people be this disgusting, and think it's okay! Right here, right now, I say - I will never do that kind of thing, not even if I become famous. Not because I'm afraid of being caught, but because it's not in me to do it in the first place.

*sigh* It's indies for me!


message 658: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Christina wrote: "Ya know, I never really got that. Is Satan the kind of guy you really want out of your line of sight?"

Well, see... I can't explain it here. There's rules against it and stuff.


Sam (Rescue Dog Mom, Writer, Hugger) (sammydogs) | 973 comments Guess what I saw walking downstairs to turn on outside light. Dried Coke. Stairway across from kitchen. Shot down the wall and to front door! At least 30 feet from where can dropped. Swear I did not shake it first. Hugs.


message 660: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
It... is happening.... AGAIN!

(maybe)

So. A little background. Along with being a writer, I work as a caregiver to adults with disabilities. I work in a home on the northeast side of Cedar Rapids. I live on the southwest side. Cedar Rapids is not, by any means, a sprawling metropolis, but it's no dinky little Mayberry, either.

My wife and I share one car and our work schedules are not quite the same. She is in the bank around 9 or 10 in the morning. I report around 1:30 or 3:30, depending on the day.

For some time, I spent my time before my shift sitting where I am now, in a coffee shop, doing my writing. The coffee shop was called Coffeesmiths and it was wonderful. Back in May, Coffeesmiths was bought out by a corporation called Scooters. The nice coffee shop turned into, well, a McDonald's. The emphasis is on smoothies and microwaved breakfast sandwiches. I turned my back and went elsewhere.

I went to a place called Java Creek Cafe, which I found was much better than Coffeesmiths had been. The coffee is wonderful. The food is excellent. And so on.

On Thursday I went in and found out that they were closing their doors on December 30. It would not be closed forever, but for about a week and a half. Then it will reopen. I have told many of the workers, including the former owner / manager not to do me like Coffeesmiths did. Do not turn into a cold corporate run fast food restaurant. I have been assured this is not going to happen... but I'm still worried and scared.

Meanwhile, until the reopening, I am stuck here in Scooters with the boring coffee. I will not be eating here on these days. I will either go to Subway next door or BBQ This, which is a short walk away. Not the best food in the world, but much better than a hockey puck that looks like a bagel.


message 661: by Jane (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Sympathies Dwayne. Chains are crap. And independents trying to be like chains are crapper.

The only thing that's worse is the poncey bistro we went to a couple nights ago - where the chef comes out of his hole to explain the menu. Noooooo! I can fucking well read...


message 662: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments anybody else ever noticed that when you shop but have no intention of buying you have someone asking you if you need help every 2 minutes, and when you actually need help, everyone disappears?


message 663: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
G.G. wrote: "anybody else ever noticed that when you shop but have no intention of buying you have someone asking you if you need help every 2 minutes, and when you actually need help, everyone disappears?"

YES!!!

See? You made me overdo the exclamation points.


message 664: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Jane wrote: "Sympathies Dwayne. Chains are crap..."

Most of them. I do have a soft spot for a few. I love Hu Hot and Chipotle.


message 665: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Alex wrote: "I hope your fears prove unfounded, Dwayne, and they're merely revamping to make it a better place for you to do your writing"

Let's hope! Let's put it this way... I almost never give cards to anyone for any reason, but I left a Christmas card for the employees. That's how much I've grown to love that little coffee shop in the last few months.


message 666: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Jensen (kdragon) | 469 comments Remembering passwords. Enough said.


message 667: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Melissa wrote: "Remembering passwords. Enough said."

Simple fix. Always use the word password for your password. Now, I know, everyone says that's a bad idea, but here's the kicker. You use a dollar sign for one of the S's and you don't tell anyone which one!

Huh? Huh?


message 668: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Dwayne wrote: "Melissa wrote: "Remembering passwords. Enough said."

Simple fix. Always use the word password for your password. Now, I know, everyone says that's a bad idea, but here's the kicker. You use a doll..."


I use 12345. Works for everything! Even my luggage!


message 669: by J. Daniel, Lurking since 2015 (new)

J. Daniel Layfield (jdaniellayfield) | 94 comments Mod
I use "incorrect" so when I forget, it tells me my password is incorrect.


message 670: by Ann, Supreme Overlord (new)

Ann Andrews (annliviandrews) | 687 comments Mod
I thought we were supposed to use our social security numbers?


message 671: by Tony (new)

Tony Nash | 29 comments A very Happy New Year to you, Melissa, and to everyone else on the site from mysterieswriter


message 672: by Jane (last edited Jan 03, 2017 11:03AM) (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Okay. I was in such a good mood. Now....

Here's the deal. My email goes bingly-beep and guess what pops in?

Yup.

A New Year round robin. And it gets worse. It's from somebody I never met. There's this woman I was at school with and I swear she has Velcro palms to her hands because I still ain't shook her off fifty years later. She was, until late last year married, to a man my family calls Alec the Asshole. So. He buggers off with his secretary Saccharine (or it might have been Diet Pepsi, or Compilobactor) but whatever the woman is called, she's only sent me a freaking New Year boast fest.

I took up Dwayne's challenge and mailed straight back 'ho hum'


message 673: by Ember-Raine (new)

Ember-Raine Winters (ember-raine_winters) | 99 comments Ugh! So I went to the bank to try and send an international transfer to my cover artist in Australia. My bank proceeds to tell me that they don't transfer out of the US! I'm so frustrated right now it's unreal! She doesn't have a PayPal account and now I have no way to send the money quickly! Anybody from Australia know of a different way? Would really appreciate the advice before I go bald from ripping my hair out!! Sorry rant done!


message 674: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments Ember wrote: "Ugh! So I went to the bank to try and send an international transfer to my cover artist in Australia. My bank proceeds to tell me that they don't transfer out of the US! I'm so frustrated right now..."

How about money orders? such as western union etc?


message 675: by Ember-Raine (new)

Ember-Raine Winters (ember-raine_winters) | 99 comments That's what I was thinking! I'm just waiting for her to tell me what she wants me to do at this point! It just gets me that a bank wont transfer money internationally! Like why the heck an I putting my money in there if they can't do what I need to with it!


message 676: by Dwayne, Head of Lettuce (new)

Dwayne Fry | 4443 comments Mod
Jane wrote: "I took up Dwayne's challenge and mailed straight back 'ho hum' "

*applause*

Another good response would be, "Jimmy crack corn and I don't care."


Sam (Rescue Dog Mom, Writer, Hugger) (sammydogs) | 973 comments I'm mad the groundhog saw his shadow so that we'll have six more weeks of winter. We haven't had as much snow as last year, which is great not having to shovel or snow blow. However, we've had low temperatures and high winds. That cute and fuzzy groundhog is mean! He won't get a hug from me! : (


message 678: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Everson (authorthomaseverson) | 424 comments Well, Punxsutawney Phil made good on that prediction, at least for us. We just got a foot of snow last night. I had to use the "rocker" method to get my car rolling. Forward, reverse, forward, reverse.

But what makes me mad are the people on the road who are aggressive in these kinds of weather conditions, like they're racing to die and trying to take everyone with them.


message 679: by Riley, Viking Extraordinaire (new)

Riley Amos Westbrook (sonshinegreene) | 1511 comments Mod
It snowed last night. I HATE SNOW! That cold white shit can go away any moment now!


message 680: by Riley, Viking Extraordinaire (new)

Riley Amos Westbrook (sonshinegreene) | 1511 comments Mod
Thomas wrote: "Well, Punxsutawney Phil made good on that prediction, at least for us. We just got a foot of snow last night. I had to use the "rocker" method to get my car rolling. Forward, reverse, forward, reve..."

Yes! I feel your pain Thomas!


message 681: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Everson (authorthomaseverson) | 424 comments I was even up an hour earlier than I needed to be to try and avoid those people and so I could take my time getting to work. No such luck. /facepalm


message 682: by Jane (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Snow? Snow? Dog is beside himself with envy....

We just have wet rain and wind. Yeah bloody wind brought half of next door's fence to rest in Dog's garden. Then the bloody woman whose freaking fence it is looks at us as if we should do something about it. Sheesh.

Thing is. We probably will because her dog has permanent diahorreah.

Don't get me started.

Need beer


message 683: by Ann, Supreme Overlord (new)

Ann Andrews (annliviandrews) | 687 comments Mod
It damn well better not snow today! We took our 4 lb preemie son home in snow and ice back in 2013. Today we're taking home our 5 lb preemie daughter and it's supposed to be 60!!!! If it snows, I will lose it!


message 684: by Jane (new)

Jane Jago | 888 comments Ann wrote: "It damn well better not snow today! We took our 4 lb preemie son home in snow and ice back in 2013. Today we're taking home our 5 lb preemie daughter and it's supposed to be 60!!!! If it snows, I w..."

Now I can't be mad any more. I just hafta say Awwww! We send our very best to you and your little one. We hope she is well and as eager to enjoy her life as she was to begin it. Dog says human puppies are cute.


message 685: by Thomas (last edited Feb 06, 2017 08:32AM) (new)

Thomas Everson (authorthomaseverson) | 424 comments Oh my, Ann, I also hope it doesn't snow for you! And congratulations on the birth and heading home!


message 686: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Jensen (kdragon) | 469 comments Riley wrote: "It snowed last night. I HATE SNOW! That cold white shit can go away any moment now!"

Riely, you could give us all your snow. Pretty please? We need it to kill all the stupid bugs that killed our garden last year.


message 687: by Christina (new)

Christina McMullen (cmcmullen) Yeah, seriously. I hate snow too, but yesterday, there was a mosquito in my house. In February...


message 688: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Jensen (kdragon) | 469 comments I usually can't stand winter but considering how bad our bugs have been, this year I welcomed it with open arms. But Kansas weather is pretty much drunk from winter to spring, and we'll go from twenties and thirties to sixties and even seventies.

All we need is one good freeze, that's all. (Knowing Kansas it'll probably happen in April... after everything has bloomed).


message 689: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments Just took a walk...our burning bushes are already budding. Tomorrow is supposed to be in the 60's. That's not going to be great for plants when it freezes again, because it will. It never fails. :(


Sam (Rescue Dog Mom, Writer, Hugger) (sammydogs) | 973 comments Christina wrote: "Yeah, seriously. I hate snow too, but yesterday, there was a mosquito in my house. In February..."

Mosquitoes?! I hate those damn things! Grr....


Sam (Rescue Dog Mom, Writer, Hugger) (sammydogs) | 973 comments Ann wrote: "It damn well better not snow today! We took our 4 lb preemie son home in snow and ice back in 2013. Today we're taking home our 5 lb preemie daughter and it's supposed to be 60!!!! If it snows, I w..."

Sending hugs, good vibes, and prayers to you and your little daughter, Ann!


message 692: by Nat (new)

Nat Kennedy | 321 comments I need to Vent.

I'm attending a local sci fic convention and I proposed to do an outlining workshop. I found out a week or so ago it was accepted (the con is in 1.5 weeks). So, I'm putting together my workshop, thinking I had about 40 minutes for the entire thing.

Now, I just got informed my 40 minute outlining workshop where I was going to go over various levels of plot and character arcs is now a 6 person 1.5 hr panel.

A panel?

WTF?! How did this happen? Did they even read my proposal!

I don't even know what to do. It's in a week and a half and my workshop is out the door. I complained to the programmer, then asked for contact information for the other panelists. I just don't even know.

I'm angry and frustrated. I'm angry because I know this will not be all that helpful to new writers. They're going to get 6 different opinions on what an outline is and we're not going to be able to get deep into story making at all. I'm mad that I wasn't contacted about the change to my proposal. I'm annoyed that my 'baby' I've been working on is dead.

I want to completely disengage and not go. (that's immature and whiny, I know, but that's how I feel at this moment.) I will still go, but I can't see how my vision can be salvaged and I'm not sure how to make this useful. It's soured me for this entire con, too.


message 693: by Ember-Raine (new)

Ember-Raine Winters (ember-raine_winters) | 99 comments Oh man! I'm sorry Nat that sucks!! I think you need a hug!! Hugs!!!


message 694: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 2491 comments I don't blame you Nat. The least they could have done is tell you in advance when they accepted and give you the opportunity to back up then and not wait until the last minute. Dog says no


message 695: by X. (new)

X. Culletto | 34 comments I'd be mad too. If I was attending, I'd much rather hear in-depth from one person than from a 6-person panel.


message 696: by Marie Silk (new)

Marie Silk | 611 comments Wow that's awful, Nat. I totally understand the frustration of having the rug pulled out from under you. How do you feel about putting your workshop on youtube? Then your material isn't wasted and people can still benefit from it ♥


message 697: by Nat (new)

Nat Kennedy | 321 comments Thanks @Ember, @GG, @X, @Marie... Yeah, I'm just hollowed out. I was very focused about this, working hard to make it useful and educational... (and a little stressed) and I'm trying to be open to finding a way to salvage, but not when you have 6 cooks in the kitchen.

I was considering offering 'my' workshop in my hotel room. ha! Put up signs in the hallway. I could try to youtube it, but I have no idea how to go about setting something like that up and have it look nice.

And yes, I will take that hug. *hugs*


message 698: by D. (new)

D. Thrush | 187 comments I'd look into youtubing it. In the meantime, in your time on the panel, mention that a youtube tutorial or another more in depth workshop will be available to those who sign up for your email list. There are ways to circumvent this, but it's annoying that this happened!


message 699: by Rohvannyn (last edited Feb 08, 2017 12:57PM) (new)

Rohvannyn Shaw | 189 comments Nat wrote: "I need to Vent.

I'm attending a local sci fic convention and I proposed to do an outlining workshop. I found out a week or so ago it was accepted (the con is in 1.5 weeks). So, I'm putting togethe..."


Wow! I feel for you, and I'm sorry this happened. If it were me, I'd go with the YouTube suggestion and go to the panel anyway. Maybe you can inject some sense into things. Also, you can possibly use points from your presentation, shortening them to be able to offer them more quickly, and slip in a "by the way, if you want to hear more from me, check out the longer version" type of thing.

Even if you don't Youtube it, you could write the presentation up as a short eBook and plug that to the panel's audience, then offer it on your site as a freebie. Or offer it in your hotel room, then use the questions you will inevitably get to improve your eBook.

What a cruddy move on the part of the organizers.


Sam (Rescue Dog Mom, Writer, Hugger) (sammydogs) | 973 comments So sorry, Nat. Good luck. Hugs!!

Good idea, Marie!

Cute pooch, G.G!


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