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Imagine you are Gordie. How would you respond to Chris when he says that friends drag you down (page 384). Do you agree or disagree and why? You can either answer this question or reply to a classmate's answer.

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Lori Vaughn | 3 comments Mod
EXAMPLE: I disagree with Chris because sometimes friends are all you have in life.


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Jay-Len R. | 2 comments Sometimes friends DO drag you down. Say there's a big opportunity for you, but you have to leave you best friends behind and you don't now what you really want to do. Say you leave your friends, and now what? A good opportunity thrown out the window. I'm obviously agreeing with the statement. I know that I would have a problem leaving my friends, though they'll probably encourage me.


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Diamond Peebles | 1 comments If i was Gordie I would to Chris in a positive way. I do think agree with Chris because certain things your friends do around yo can have a major affect on you. Another thing is that friends can sometimes be a negative and positive affect to the things they do. These are the reasons why i agree with Chris when he says friends can drag you down.


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Mackenzie Montgomery | 1 comments I disagree and agree because it depends on the situation because if your friend always down talking on you and bring you down its not a good friend but if your helps you and stuff then hes not a friend that drag you down


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Jacob Vivian | 1 comments I would disagree with what Chris said because friends can help you through things. Friends can be a big help to ones life. A good friend will help you not drag you down. Chris could be right because that is what he believes in, but friends can be your push. The push that make you better and do better things in your life. Friends are a motivation to do good thing and bad but good friends always strive for you to do better than others.


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Jayla | 1 comments I disagree. It depends on who your friends are. If your friends want you to do well then they are probably your real friend. But if your friends purposely drag you down they were not your friends in the first place.


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Haley Gray | 1 comments I would take what Chris said into consideration. I agree with what it. Friends, peer pressure, and wanting to be cool can halt your dreams and what you want to do in life. friends can be a big distraction. Although, friends are fun to be around, they can keep you from seeing the "big picture". It's up to you to decide which friends are worth keeping.


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Ariyana | 1 comments i feel like friends can bring you down. some people just cant be trusted you may think they're your friend but they could really just be against you and after things you really want in life. "friends" can drag you down you just need to know how to pick out the real ones and point out the fake ones.


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Tori | 2 comments I don't agree with Chris because sometimes friends can uplift you when times are bad for you. Friends can drag you down if you have the wrong friends then you're stupid because they are definitely gonna drag you down the wrong path in life. Things including drugs and alcohol. For insistence teddy and Vern are are involved with smoking cigarettes. they were dragged down to see a dead body. But Gordie looks at is they are helpful to him because they make him happy and he surrounds himself with them alot.


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Brandon Caldwell | 1 comments I agree with him because friends do drag you down.If your friend is feeling sad about something, if you care about that friend you would understand and get sad too I guess. Also if your friend wants you to come smoke or do something wrong, your friend is basically dragging you down. Another way a friend could drag you down is if they get too comfortable around you that they would start dissing thinking you wouldn't get offended. Those are some reasons why I think friends could drag you down.


Ashlyn Jones | 2 comments I agree and disagree because it all depends on the type of friends that you surround yourself with. If you have good group of friends who are actually a good influence on you and don't bring you down,I don't agree with the question. The thing is not everyone is lucky enough to have a good group of friends like that some friends do nothing for you but bring you down and disappoint you.


Ashlyn Jones | 2 comments Ariyana wrote: "i feel like friends can bring you down. some people just cant be trusted you may think they're your friend but they could really just be against you and after things you really want in life. "frien..."
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Jay-Len R. | 2 comments Jayla wrote: "I disagree. It depends on who your friends are. If your friends want you to do well then they are probably your real friend. But if your friends purposely drag you down they were not your friends i..."
True. BUT it's not what your friends want you to do; it's your opportunity. Even though they may want you to go, you'd probably feel lost without them. Now...do you friends really want you to feel lost, alone, and out of place?


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Tori | 2 comments Haley wrote: "I would take what Chris said into consideration. I agree with what it. Friends, peer pressure, and wanting to be cool can halt your dreams and what you want to do in life. friends can be a big dist..."
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Kayla | 1 comments I agree and disagree for many reasons.I agree because if you have friends that really don't care about you then they will make you feel unwanted and your just there to be there.I disagree because your friends are suppose to hold you down and be there for you.If you have real friends then they are going to give you good advice and be on your side not bring you down. But then again sometimes friends don't have the best judgment.Therefore this is why i agree and disagree with the comment chris said.


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Jevon Patterson | 1 comments Ashlyn wrote: "Ariyana wrote: "i feel like friends can bring you down. some people just cant be trusted you may think they're your friend but they could really just be against you and after things you really want..."
I agree with Ashyln because not all your friends can be good friends. And sometimes its hard for you to trust them.


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Paris Bryant | 1 comments I agree and disagree at the same time. I agree because sometimes you have friends who are bad influences on you , or people won't treat you with the right opportunities because of who your friends are. I also disagree because friends are the best things that could happen to you. Friends can be the ones who help you through the bad things in your life and be there during the happiest times too.


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Donyeal | 1 comments I disagree and agree because some friends can be fake but smiling up in your face but your real friends don't do that they be real from the beginning . Fake friends judge real friends . Real friends make sure you okay and that you always got someone to lean on . But fake friends don't . So i disagree and agree that friends brag you down .


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Harris jr | 1 comments An opportunity is an opportunity. If you don't take its then your a loyal friend. If its an life opportunity your just dumb. That opportunity could change your life. Your friends need to understand that your trying to better yourself.


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Kamryn Slaughter | 1 comments I agree with Chris .I agree because sometimes friends can drag you down and make you feel less. Friends aren't always gonna be there when you need them . They cant tell you what to do and when to do it . A goodfriend/bestfriend can always turn on you at anytime and make you feel bad.


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Natosha Ceaser | 1 comments I agree for many reasons. Friends aren't always healthy for you and your life goals. Now if they are on the same mission as you that's different because you both are trying to strive for successful. Chris understands that because i believe he wants the best for Gordie. Friends are very needy like children. They want attention and always want your valuable time. Friends distract you because its your friend it's always play time when with them. Achieving something take seriousness. Just like Ashlyn she distracts me . We all want to be successful sometimes friends are distracting.


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Camia Page | 1 comments If i was Gordie the way i would respond to Chris telling me that Would be Some what of a good and bad response. Chris is right about friends dragging you down naturally friends want to stick together cause you feel you just might never meet people like the friends you have. Making and finding good friends can be hard for some people. A large part of me agree with Chris because sometimes following people the rest of your life can keep you from taking risk, risk that might change your life for the better. Like Gordie he's a good writer and one day he could be a good writer. His friends are somewhat heading down the wrong path not saying they wont ever be anything in life but saying who knows what they will be. The bad about leaving good friends behind is just the fact you may never find those people again in life. Its really just that person choice because know one can make choices for you only u can.


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Essence | 1 comments I would disagree with Chris , I say this because not all friends drag you down. Some friends have your best interests and want to see you succeed. If someone wants to drag you down then that's not your real friend. A real friend is someone that wants to see you come up or do good in life. All friends joke around but there's a time and place for everything.


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Manda Baranowski | 1 comments If I were Gordie, i would feel hurt by this comment for a few reasons. First, I consider Chris to be my best friend, so for him to say friends drag you down, I would feel like I'm dragging him down. Then, I would also feel bad at Vern and Teddy because I would think either I would drag them down, or if they had overheard, they may think that they are dragging me down. Finally, the comment is just rude because friends make you stronger and more inspired to go on adventures and they help you find out who you are in life. That's what I would say if I was Gordie talking to Chris.


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Elyse | 1 comments When Chris says do friends drag you down, I kind of agree. Of course friends are supposed to lift you up in certain ways but they also can drag you down. For instance sometimes when you have friends that don't do any of their work then they want to ask you for every assignment. That could be dragging you down, especially if it's not equal. Also sometimes you could have really negative friends who only consider their feelings and no-one else. See some people would say that's not your friend but sometimes you have a friend for a while and you have a deep connection but they are just a pessimist. Overall friends are supposed to help you up but sometimes or allot of the time that's not the case. You either are helping them up or they are bad influences on you.


Alexis | 2 comments I think that Chris is right and wrong in some way. I say this because some friends can influence you to do bad or wrong things like skip class or do drugs. Also friends could make you do things you usually wouldnt do. If you have good friends they could influence you to do good things like do your homework or do sports. Also friends could be there for you to support you when you need their help. Friends can be good or bad so i think chris is wrong n right at the same time.


Alexis | 2 comments if i were gordie i would feel maybe alittle sad and maybe feel like he does not want to be my friend anymore because he feels like he is bad for me.


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Joel Conley | 1 comments I would disagree with Chris because I believe that some, if not most people are independent enough to make their own choices despite the influences of outside forces such as their friends. While it is true that friends make great influences for the actions of someone, their are in no way controlled by their friends.In Gordie's case, he is able to control himself. He is able to control himself because despite the idiotic acts of Vern and Teddy, Gordie is still on a much more promising path than his friends. He is about to take college courses in school and commits to his writing, while also being around people like Vern and Teddy. It also works in a reverse since Teddy and Vern both are good friends with a good influence such as Gordie, but still behave vastly different than Gordie, which further proves that people can negate the influences of their peers.


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Justin Wright | 1 comments What Chris is saying is true to a certain extent. Some friends will and some won't. I think that if people think this, then why are they your friends. You are in charge of who your friends are and if they drag you down then it's mainly your fault. I also disagree with him because some friends might be the best person in the world to you and if you have that type of friend, how is he bringing you down? One thing that I might agree is that some friends are forced on you and they can bring you down and sometimes it can be difficult to leave them. In conclusion, it just depends who you chose to be your friends and how is the friendship.


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Wendy Reyes | 1 comments I disagree. Friends do not drag you down. They want you to do your best. They want to uplift you not drag you down. Friends want you to be happy. They would not do anything to hurt you. If they hurt you, friends wouldn't try to do it purposely. They are doing it for you best. Friends are honest and care about you. Those are true friends. True friends uplift you, not drag you down.


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Markell | 1 comments I do agree. I agree because friends will bring you down. now and days you really don't know who you can trust. Some people will see you doing good and try to distract you and use peer pressure to knock you off your game. A good friend will always respect your wishes and wants and not get in your way but try to help you. i also agree because good friend to me may not always be what a good friend is to you. its all about who you hang around and the affect and influences that that person puts on you. Good friends define you so if you have a friend that likes to commit crime then it wouldn't make since to say that you don't instead a good friend would insist that you don't follow others and push for success..


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Leslie | 1 comments I disagree and agree with the Chris saying friends can bring you down, because some friends can envy you and never want to see you happy or doing well for yourself. They will do anything to make sure you're not doing better than the rest or them. Now on the other hand I disagree, because some friends want to see you succeed in life and do well for yourself. They want to see both of ya'll do good for yourself in life. At the end of the day friends can bring you down and uplift you. Keep friends close and enemies closer.


Shelbie Edwards | 1 comments I agree and disagree with Chris at the same time. I agree with Chris that friends can bring you down because sometimes we have friends that don't have the best influences on us. Sometimes they might make poor choices that could possibly have an affect on you too. But, then I also disagree with Chris because friends also could be one of the best things that have happened in your life. Friends are loyal and will always be there for you through thick and thin to support you on journey through life.


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Asya | 1 comments I disagree with Chris. Friends are supposed to be the ones you trust most in life. Friends should be there for you not drag you down. If a person is considered your friend and you feel like their " draging you down" then they shouldn't be your friend, but friends often do bring you down sometimes because their opinions could be harsh sometimes and they are the ones you respect the most.


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Tamyra Brown | 1 comments I think Chris isn't wrong or right. I think this because friends don't always drag you down. They can help you out of bad situations and influence you to do the right things. Some friends do things around you and you start to follow them. They can be good or bad. But when friends start to get you in trouble always and you start doing bad at school & home then that's when they start to drag you down. So friends can be good friends & supportive, or they can make bad choices with you and drag you down.


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Asia | 1 comments I dont agree or disagree with Chris. I think whether they drag you down or not depends on the type of friends you have. If you surround yourself with people who have the same mindset, values and goals as you i dont think his statement is truthful. Also When you have friends that care about you and will motivate you to be better. When you have friends that are not ambitious then yes they can drag you down. Also when you have friend that dont have goals they get jealous and sometimes they try to purposely drag you down. So not all friends drag you down you have to your company wisely.


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Jade Ray | 1 comments I agree with Chris. Even though in some cases your friends are there for you, most of the time all their doing is taking you down. They want you to do bad things with them or for them. They always hype you up to fight and defend yourself physically. Not saying these people aren't your true friends cause they might be. However, they should encourage you to do good and make better decisions. These "friends" are not bad but they aren't that good either. Nobody is perfect and we all say and do things that aren't always beneficial. That doesn't mean we have to drag each other down.


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Jamir Haynes | 1 comments I agree. I feel like this can be true due to your circumstances. You might have certain friends that you really like, but can be bad for you. It can be hard on you as a person to get rid these friends because you want to be loyal, although they're bringing you down. So in that sense, yes I do believe they can bring you down.


Danielle Horton | 1 comments I agree an disagree . Friends can uplift as well as bring you down just all depends on who you surround yourself with. Some friends aren't even really your friends , if they dont have good intentions for you and dont want to see do good. They will bring you down that shows who was your real friend and who wasnt.


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Toryan Merritt | 1 comments I agree and disagree with what Chris said. I agree because some friends do drag you down and can guide you in the wrong direction.They can make decisions that seemed good at first but turned out the complete opposite and can influence you to make the same mistake.Certain friends can persuade you to do things that you know isn't the best thing to do but you believe that they as your friends, have your best interest so we do whatever they say.I disagree with what Chris said because friends aren't supposed to drag you down to begin with.A friend to me is someone that will uplift you and not drag you down, they want you to be successful. If they drag you down then they really aren't your friend and they must not want you to grow and become successful if they keep dragging you down.


Ashley Hamilton (ashleyh61116) | 1 comments I would tell Chris that there is a point where friends draw the line. If your friends are encouraging you to do things that you love and love you for you then that's okay. Even if they're your friends, in some situations, they can draw the line. If they're encouraging you to do drugs and skip school then, of course, they are bringing you down. You don't need those type of people and you shouldn't have called them your friends in the first place. Most people are dependent on thier friends because they are the most happiest when they are around them. Home situations could possibly be an example of why most people are dependent of thier friends. Real friends are people who inspire you, support you with what you want to do, help you with difficult situations, and help you go down the right path. Those people won't ever drag you down.


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Treanna Swanson | 1 comments I disagree with Chris. Friends aren't meant to bring you down. If your "friends are bringing you down, then they aren't really your friends. Therefore, you should stop communicating with them. Friends are supposed to lift you up and be there when you need them most. If you feel like they aren't there for you, they aren't really your friend.


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Lori Vaughn | 3 comments Mod
Diamond wrote: "If i was Gordie I would to Chris in a positive way. I do think agree with Chris because certain things your friends do around yo can have a major affect on you. Another thing is that friends can so..."

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Lori Vaughn | 3 comments Mod
Mackenzie wrote: "I disagree and agree because it depends on the situation because if your friend always down talking on you and bring you down its not a good friend but if your helps you and stuff then hes not a fr..."

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