Gabbu and Elf's Collabs

[gabbu]

i'm really indecisive about everything, but i'm leaning a bit towards the codependency. if you end up preferring the other one i'm honestly okay with either.

also, i stalk all the threads so i was aware of this.

[[deleted user]]

So was I, honestly, so I'll go with that.

Also, she knew someone else who cut (her dead step-sister, and that ended badly).

Yay, someone else who does the exact same thing! XP

[[deleted user]]

Or maybe not co-dependency, per se, but maybe more like they both rely very heavily on one another, but neither are really emotionally ready to be relied on or something?

[[deleted user]]

I feel like they're really close friends and good friends, but also with too many issues each to really have maybe the most healthy relationship.

[[deleted user]]

Like sort of this definition: One or both parties depend on their loved ones for fulfillment

[[deleted user]]

I don't know. Your thoughts?

[[deleted user]]

Or sort of this one: 1. Mutually dependent.
2. Of or relating to a relationship in which one person is psychologically dependent in an unhealthy way on someone who is addicted to a drug or self-destructive behavior, such as chronic gambling.

[gabbu]

mutually dependent sounds good, yes (i was going to reply sooner but it was back to the future time and i was still kinda :OOOO sorry)

[[deleted user]]

Okay

[[deleted user]]

Comment #3 for Siersha's history

[gabbu]

i saw. it's intense

[[deleted user]]

We'll see how long it gets . . . .It's my longest yet. (Also the one I'm the most emotionally attached to)

[gabbu]

i'm not even close to done with rali yet but i was wondering what your thoughts were on making her MtF transgender. would they have the sex correction surgery at this point? because that was what i was planning do with rali if you were okay with the trans thing, though the her getting the surgery would've been fairly recent.

[[deleted user]]

I'm perfectly okay with it! Actually, that's awesome! So yeah, definitely okay with it. =D

Also, we need to design Gavriil and Siersha's flat.

Also, as I've been saying with Maska, I think some time after Gavriil and Sol get together, I think Siersha "Siersha will try to walk out because she feels like she's going to be abandoned or something or just doesn't feel wanted, and like do her best to avoid everyone" because "she has some trust and abandonment issues that would kick in, so she wouldn't want to talk really but she wouldn't feel wanted so she'd leave. She needs to be needed, and she's only really felt that around Gavriil and Gavriil having Sol . . . ."

[gabbu]

yay!

crap, yes. we do. i'm about to get in the shower and go to bed so i won't be able to help much with it tonight though.

i noticed this because i'm caught up on a majority of the threads (especially ones where my character's been mentioned). i think it would make sense for her to feel that way initially but i also can't see gavriil letting her do anything too drastic or distance herself too much because of how much he cares for people, especially her (i'm not even sure if that all made sense ahh)

[gabbu]

things i've been noticing lately: i say "though" a lot and am sort of similar to gavriil in some ways (though i'm a lot better about standing up for myself)

[[deleted user]]

=D

Okay

I figured, but I wanted to mention it here too. =) It makes sense. But I feel like she'd still try, and it would result in days of trying to avoid them and being in a right foul mood before Gavriil (and maybe Sol) finally corner her.

Interesting. I see myself as a lot like Siersha, but she says and does the things I wish I could do. Standing up for myself is a bit of a recent thing for me, really . . . .

[gabbu]

if you want to, i'd be willing to work on siersha and gav's apartment.

also, gavriil is free now if you want to do something with him and siersha.

[[deleted user]]

Cool! What should their apartment be like do you think?

That'd be awesome! =)

[gabbu]

i think gavriil would keep his stuff pretty clean so it wasn't in siersha's way. i'm not sure how neat siersha would be, but gavriil would probably at least offer to do a lot of the cleaning stuff

[[deleted user]]

She's messy. Like her room is probably a disaster. There are probably numerous holes in all of her walls even where she doesn't have targets pasted up. She probably has crumpled paper and various nick-knacks everywhere. She may have a large speaker and a desk? IDK She doesn't keep things clean. She'd probably feel the need to do some things around the house. She could probably do the laundry and at least a good chunk of cooking (baking, at least).

Should they have any pets?

[gabbu]

i can roll with that.

i think them having a pet would be interesting. any preference/thoughts on what kind?

[[deleted user]]

Okay.

Ferret or cat. What are yours? If ferret, can one be named Maverick?

[gabbu]

i wasn't entirely sure at first but ferrets sound good. why maverick?

[[deleted user]]

I like the name, and my dad had a ferret named that once, and yeah. So how many ferrets?

[gabbu]

2-3?

also, i recall saying i'd make a sibling for pheonix (i believe that's how you spelled it but i may be wrong) and was wondering if i were to make it for the Luscari (?) family what sort of things i should know or do.

[[deleted user]]

Okay, three then. Names: Maverick, __________, and ___________.

Yeah. I don't have much. If you read her history, that's basically all I have. I'm thinking Phi's dad that's mob boss gets killed and the second assumes control and she's been trying to get back in ever since and failing. But that's really all I have. We'd have to develop them more together.

[gabbu]

i'm terrible with names but maybe something like rini or mika?

i wanted my character to maybe have been interested in keeping up with the gang for a while, but not be quite as interested currently and maybe he's just having trouble finding a way completely out? it's not something i've thought too much about so i don't have many ideas.

[[deleted user]]

I like Rini and Mika.

So maybe he and Phi are trying to switch places somehow?

[gabbu]

they're the names of my friend's dogs. her family is much more creative.

yeah, okay. and maybe it's not working out as well as they'd like because of mild sexism/unwillingness to follow someone new and not directly related to the family?

[[deleted user]]

Maybe Rini and then Koschei? And then Maverick? That way only one starting with M? Or a name beginning with "U"? So their initials spell out RUM (by Siersha's reckoning) or maybe MR. U by Gavriil's?

Makes sense. Yeah.

[gabbu]

you got a smile out of me at the "rum/mr. u" comment (not something that happens often online).

we're driving down this part of town with a street named jefferson, another named davis right afterwards (like jefferson davis, the confederate dude), one that intersects both of them called union, and one after that named state. it was like a massive civil war pun (which is ironic considering the fact it's a predominantly black part of town).

[[deleted user]]

Well, go me then.

Wow. That is interesting.

[gabbu]

i was looking at "u" names and saw one i thought looked interesting. urania, the greek muse of astronomy (or some variant of it maybe). the name would fit for siersha with her whole astronomer thing. just a thought.

[[deleted user]]

I like it! =D

[[deleted user]]

Riki, Urania, and Maverick. RUM. Maverick, Riki, and Urania. MR. U

[gabbu]

yay for baby naming websites!

[[deleted user]]

My votes for ferret types for each:

Silver blaze ferret :: Urania


Solid black ferret :: Riki


White-footed sable ferret :: Maverick

[gabbu]

i concur (i didn't have an opinion on it in the first place and what you have is perfect anyways)

[[deleted user]]

Okay then. Those are their lovely ferrets then. ^^

[[deleted user]]

So what would Gavriil's opinion on Nyco Drake be?

[gabbu]

he probably knows of her through their father and she's someone he'd like to meet since he tends to see the best in everyone. once he got to know her, he'd probably still like her because that's just kind of how he is. he might be a bit scared of her but i think it's something he'd probably look past and he'd be more scared of what he'd do to offend her than what she'd do if he offended her.

[[deleted user]]

And his best friend has an awful temper, so it might not be so strange to him to be around someone with a reactive temper. Maybe he sort of makes her a little bit nicer in some ways?

[[deleted user]]

But then the drama with Adrian and Mallorie happens?

[gabbu]

sounds great!

[[deleted user]]

Cool. And maybe she tries to get him to be a little more political because he'd likely inherit her position. I feel like I should start the plans to "continue the line" soon before she learns her half-brother exists.

[gabbu]

that would make sense. gavriil would be reluctant to even think about filling such a huge position, but he'd care more about helping Nyco Drake.

[[deleted user]]

I know he would be. And she probably realizes that too, but she knows that since there's always a Voclain on the city council, he would likely have no choice in the matter. It would take long while, but I want her to trust him eventually.

[gabbu]

how do you like this for siersha and gav's apartment?

Due to the vastly different personalities of its occupants, Gavriil and Siersha's flat is quite a sight to see. While Gavriil's things are all very orderly and neat, pretty much anything belonging to Siersha is in complete disarray. Gavriil cleans as much as he can without messing too much with Siersha's possessions, so these spots, while not erased, are generally very contained. Also, as Siersha does most of the cooking/baking, their kitchen isn't exactly the neatest place you could be (Gavriil does a little more than just contain the disorganization here -- otherwise, their flat would've burned down years ago). Siersha and Gavriil own three ferrets, Riki (view spoiler)[ (hide spoiler)], Urania (view spoiler)[ (hide spoiler)], and Maverick (view spoiler)[ (hide spoiler)] who love Siersha's chaos and often create quite a bit of of their own.

[[deleted user]]

I like!