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message 1: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments I fell head over heels for this series a few years ago. One of the things that really started intriguing me is the idea of using herbs and essential oils to heal.

I really want to learn more.


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That's a wonderful path to go down Sara... Good luck with it.


message 3: by Vanessa Eden (new)

Vanessa  Eden Patton (vanessaeden) | 549 comments I have always had an affinity for natural healing and herbs,etc. When I read the books I definitely learned some things I did not know beforehand.
You should look into Reiki if you have not already.


message 4: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments I am a big fan of reiki and tantra.


message 5: by Vanessa Eden (new)

Vanessa  Eden Patton (vanessaeden) | 549 comments Tantra, I haven't heard of that. I will look into it. Thank you! :)


message 6: by Heather in FL (new)

Heather in FL (heather_fl) I tried a LONG time ago (before even reading Outlander) and I just can't keep all the info in my head, lol. There are the "normal" things like chamomile and lavender helping you sleep, citrus perking you up... but that's about all I remember, and I think I have Bath & Body Works to thank for that. :-) But I wish I could remember it all... considering how many side effects current medicines have, and many are derived from natural remedies, I have to believe that going natural is at least somewhat safer.


message 7: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments Unfortunately what we find around mostly is not natural - like 90% of the stuff at b&bw has mineral oil in it - petroleum. yuck!


message 8: by Heather in FL (new)

Heather in FL (heather_fl) Good point! I'm sure you could make your own, though I've no doubt that's an intensive, time-consuming process.


message 9: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments Not really you can get a good carrier oil off amazon and some essential oils from Native American medicinals


 Northern Light (norrthernlight) | 219 comments Heather in FL wrote: "I tried a LONG time ago (before even reading Outlander) and I just can't keep all the info in my head, lol. There are the "normal" things like chamomile and lavender helping you sleep, citrus perki..."


I'm sure you realise that natural isn't always safer and can be just as dangerous if not more so than medicines.


message 11: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments Not Always safer, no. But I'd much rather have something at least based on what God gave this planet not what some scientist in a lab cooked up much like Meth


message 12: by Mrsbooks (last edited Mar 15, 2014 04:47PM) (new)

Mrsbooks | 399 comments I go to the naturopath and osteopath quite often. I trust them more than the doctor and they've been able to help me more than the doc has too. Don't get me wrong, I love my family doctor but I believe in preventative medicine rather than taking a prescription to mask symptoms.


message 13: by Vanessa Eden (new)

Vanessa  Eden Patton (vanessaeden) | 549 comments My view on herbal medicine is this: it works if you eat an all natural diet. However, in todays society you cannot depend on natural remidies to combat the chemicals we have poluting our bodies. You need chemicals to fight chemicals. Example, you cannot take some kind of herb to help lower blood pressure if your going to go and eat a big hamburger from mcdonalds, and expect it to do any good.
I would never use hollistic medicine in place of western medicine. While yes I believe some works it is not to be used in place of traditional medicine.


message 14: by Carren (new)

Carren Kay | 953 comments While I'm not into herbal healing, I do try to use only products that are good for both humans and the environment. We have small grandchildren and try to use ony products without chemicals, if we can. Although, admittedly, it's not always easy.


message 15: by Mrsbooks (new)

Mrsbooks | 399 comments I don't think it's so much herbal medicine as it is any kind of medicine that doesn't work well if you don't accompany it with diet and exercise.

High blood pressure is a good example. I know people on meds and although they do help, it is still a far cry from eliminating the problem because they aren't willing to give up their bad diet.


message 16: by Carren (new)

Carren Kay | 953 comments Mrsbooks wrote: "I don't think it's so much herbal medicine as it is any kind of medicine that doesn't work well if you don't accompany it with diet and exercise.

High blood pressure is a good example. I know peo..."


So true! My husband's blood pressure was starting to get up there, but with diet and plenty of excersize, it's starting to be normal and he lost 20 lbs. Unfortunately, he did have to start a low dosage medicine, but the doctor told him that he may not be on it forever, as some people are.
Keeping our fingers crossed.


message 17: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 1124 comments i think part of the problem, if you want to call it that, is that people want quick fixes in general and medicine today - provides them with that...using more natural remedies, along with diet, losing weight etc takes time


message 18: by Heather in FL (new)

Heather in FL (heather_fl) Dee wrote: "i think part of the problem, if you want to call it that, is that people want quick fixes in general and medicine today - provides them with that...using more natural remedies, along with diet, los..."

Right... people might actually have to make an effort to change something about how they're living, lol.


message 19: by Mrsbooks (new)

Mrsbooks | 399 comments It's really difficult because our society is set up for the quick fix. Most people work a 40 hour work week plus travel time, have to take care of the kids, keep a house clean and make more than one healthy meal every evening for who knows how many members of the family.

I have to eat every 3 hours, if I snack, I can make it to 4. I also have food sensitivities so most of what I eat has to be made at home and from scratch. Really when you think about it, there isn't much out there that's pre-made beyond a salad anyways that's actually healthy.

I find it really difficult with this balancing act and I don't even have children lol.

I struggle with health problems that virtually disappear when I eat as I should. I think the majority of our health problems come from the poison we keep putting in our bodies. I know I prove this with my own case.

Healthy food is also subjective (Sorta, but not really lol). Some people don't understand the difficulty I have finding the time to manage a healthy diet but I personally don't feel dairy or wheat are healthy and when you take those out of the equation much of those easy fixes are gone.


message 20: by Denise (new)

Denise | 13 comments I was much younger when I started reading the series (hadn't even started nursing school) but was interested in the topic because of some of wonderful women in my family (my mom and aunties). Now that I'm a nurse I truly believe in Integrative Medicine. I don't think the books have influenced that as much but it is nice to see it in the storyline, as it makes them more believable!


message 21: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (alittleturlesworld) | 35 comments One of my biggest issues with modern western medicine is the tendency to treat symptoms without bothering to really look for the underlying issue let alone address it. Also the focus on BMI - for gods sake I'm 145 lbs and 5'2". When I'm really happy my weight goes down to right about 130 where I'm still overweight per modern standards. In reality modern BMI standards have people nearly anorexic to be considered healthy. Sorry, but that isn't healthy!


message 22: by Christine (new)

Christine Rogers | 14 comments I have been studying herbal medicine for years, some of it sometimes can work as well or better than "modern" medicine, but I happily partake of both. I started my interest in it b/c I have always been really interested in history, which is why I later picked up Outlander in the first place... the rest is well... history :-) I would like to try some of the food items talked about in the books too.


message 23: by Denise (new)

Denise | 13 comments I also want try some of the food items in the books! My mom makes some awesome Scotch eggs. We take them camping, they are easy to reheat and make a good breakfast! Have you checked out the blog outlanderkitchen.com?


message 24: by Christine (new)

Christine Rogers | 14 comments Denise, yes! I follow her on Facebook too! I have several annoying food allergies, but I can change ingredients :-)


message 25: by Denise (new)

Denise | 13 comments I love her site. I also follower on FB and Pintrest. Food allergies, not good. But you are right, there is always a substitution. Honestly, sometimes substitutions are even better!


message 26: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 1124 comments Sarah wrote: "One of my biggest issues with modern western medicine is the tendency to treat symptoms without bothering to really look for the underlying issue let alone address it. Also the focus on BMI - for g..."

BMI is the biggest joke in the world - but back in the day it was used by the insurance industry to determine rates for life insurance etc...I'm overweight boardering on obese according to my BMI, but look to be at least 20lbs lighter, so I just ignore what they tell me - when someone telling me i'm overweight comes out and completes and 80mile bike ride with me, followed by a 10 mile run, I might listen to them, but highly unlikely

unfortunately, its also sympotmatic of our current society that people want quick fixes and that is what treating the symptoms do


message 27: by Amber (new)

Amber Cable (acable178) Here is a great website for health concerns and essential oils: http://www.everythingessential.me/Hea...


Sarah wrote: "I fell head over heels for this series a few years ago. One of the things that really started intriguing me is the idea of using herbs and essential oils to heal.

I really want to learn more."



message 28: by Mrsbooks (new)

Mrsbooks | 399 comments I think it's amusing this word we as a society keep using too; Moderation. Everything these days is okay as long as it's kept in moderation. However so many of these products (soda for instance) is like poison to our bodies but apparently this sort of poison is okay as long as it's in moderation.

Too much of anything is pretty much always a bad thing and much of the time that's how allergies form. But when did things that the body reacts negatively to, like fast food become Okay as long as you don't have too much?

I can't imagine how Healthy Claire and Jamie must be eating organically and without all these poisonous chemicals floating around in their system and unhealthy food. They're not getting any of that crap, even in moderation.


message 29: by MJ (new)

MJ | 207 comments What about acupuncture? Anyone had experience?

I've had it a few times and not every time, but occasionally 'that' needle would go in and I can only describe it as feeling like and energy cyclone rushing through my body... With that 'fresh' feeling you get when your standing in some kind of wind tunnel just flowing through my body. It's really amazing to feel. I figured it had something to do with chakras or pressure points being blocked.

And as for which needle... It was never a specific spot or the first or the last... It just seemed to be the one that was needed on that day.


message 30: by Kelly (new)

Kelly Lynch | 1 comments My herbal journey started long ago when my brother was told he had spastic bowel. Mom started with the diet, and by the time I was through high school, she was making tinctures and studying herbology. I'm in my 40s now, she has her own business with her husband working with people to get back to that natural state. So, I have been a firm believer for a long time and found it great to see Claire's journey of discovery. MJ, have had the same experiencr with accupuncture. Suffered terribly from craps in my teen years, came home from school with them, a client was an accupuncturist, there that day. He used 2 or 3 needles, but on the last one, it actually made my stomach upset. So, removed the last needle and use accupressure on a couple of points to calm my stomach. Have you heard about "grounding"?


message 31: by MJ (new)

MJ | 207 comments Grounding? Not really.


message 32: by Brizo (new)

Brizo (brizosdream) | 320 comments My family is from Scotland and natural healing is something I grew up with. I sometimes think herbs and natural cures are way better than the expensive medicine the pharmaceutical companies are pushing on us. It was interesting to see how Diana Gabaldon weaved this trait into her stories, and it reminded me of my grandmother and my father's stories of the healer in our family.


message 33: by Denise (new)

Denise | 13 comments Agreed Brizo!


message 34: by Mari (last edited Jul 26, 2014 11:24PM) (new)

Mari Dee wrote: "i think part of the problem, if you want to call it that, is that people want quick fixes in general and medicine today - provides them with that...using more natural remedies, along with diet, los..."
And it doesn't work. Philosophically, I have nothing against the idea. I consider myself a Wiccan, and have heard plenty of herbal lore. But the truth is that although overall health is important, you are genetically predisposed to things, and you won't get away from that. If you have Cancer, you need to remove the tumor. Eating fruit isn't going to make you live any longer. It also happens that people have more severe allergic reactions to "natural" remedies then to synthetic meds. All medication on comes from nature anyhow. It eventually gets made synthetically for many reasons, but the place researchers usually start is nature.


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