Why do epic fantasy novels dont have enough magic?

[A.J.]

This is one of the reasons why I decided to ONLY write fantasy.
It seems that magic is always put at the rear of every epic fantasy story. Many fantasy authors treat magic like the last kid chosen in soccer practice.
Why isnt there enough magic in fantasy novels. JK Rowling did an awesome job in creating a magic system but George RR Martin made magic a thing within the imagination of the characters.
When it comes to magic most fantasy books substitute it with a mystical creature or magic item. Rarely do they make magic a primary thing in the story.

What do you think?

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[Margret]

I think the key is in the context. In A Song of Ice and Fire the main focus has always been placed on the conspiracies and political intrigue. It doesn't bother me whatsoever that I don't know the theory behind white walkers and Melisandre's various powers because they aren't (at this point) the most pressing part of the plot.

Perhaps authors know what their strong points are, and choose to not stretch their story too thin over the combination of all the world building, politics, battle, quest, and magic systems as to bog down the story?

I would however expect lots of theory and cool illustration in Brandon Sanderson's books, as that's the niche he has carved for himself and people really enjoy the extra tidbits about his magic systems, so I will agree that I enjoy learning about them!

[A.J.]

I my self love a great magic system. Just wish there was more out there. Its more common in anime and manga though

[Willow]

Hmmmm. I think that there are plenty of epic fantasy works out there with a strong focus on the magic system. You just have to know where to look ;)

Margret was right on track: start with Brandon Sanderson's work. Every series he creates has a unique and original magic system that is integral to the story. Warbreaker relies on color, Mistborn relies on metal, the Stormlight Archive's system works off of a substance called "stormlight".

Butcher's Codex Alera is also a contender; the plot in that story could not have worked without the magic. The characters are often defined by their relationship (or lack thereof) TO the magic system. It's completely vital to the series as a whole.

There are many more besides. Just look.

Most Interesting Magic System

Most unique, original, and interesting magical systems

Favourite Magic Systems

(Hint: look for the books that are the SAME on all three lists. Many of them qualify as epic fantasy.)

[Brenda ╰☆╮ , In Memoriam]

I agree with Willow.
There are many fantasy books with wonderful magic systems.
This group should help you on the way.

George R Martin's books have gotten more attention, of late, because of the show, but it is not typical of fantasy.
He concentrates on political intrigue, not magic The main reason I gave it up was the lack of magic.

Definitely read Brandon Sanderson.

[E.J.]

I know I try to include all the magic I can in my novels. And all I write is epic fantasy. BUT, magic has to be believable! You can't just have things illogical. Making up stuff just because, doesn't fly with me. It's fine to start that way in your head, but there has to be a flow within the world. I hope that makes sense.

[Jason]

I generally prefer low magic worlds in fantasy, like Tolkien or Martin, since too much magic can make deus ex machinas too easy.

[E.J.]

I agree, Jason.

[Mary]

Too much magic -- particularly in the characters' hands -- dents the sense of wonder precisely because you have to systemize it and so make it more like technology and ordinary life.

[Jack]

if you don't have enough magic in your books read any of Brandon Sanderson's novels. He comes up with great magic systems that are believable and exciting as well. His writing is also great to follow along and his world building is amazing.