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message 2451: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments I know it's all better said than done but there are so many out there who did it.

Why can't we?


message 2452: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 27, 2018 09:03AM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Sometimes you have to put yourselves before others.


message 2453: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Suicide is Haram (forbidden) in Islam. I don't know what religions you guys follow or if any of you doesn't believe in them.

This life is a gift and a test. This is all borrowed and we can't throw it away. Just like murdering someone is like murdering the whole humanity, killing yourself is also a murder.

It's not an easy way even if it seems like it.

When you kill yourself, u throw away the gift given to you (even if it doesn't seem like a gift to you) and then only punishment awaits you. The punishment of being risen again and dying the same way over and over and over again.

I don't know what you guys believe in and even if u don't give the afterlife a deep thought.


message 2454: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 27, 2018 09:04AM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Your personal well-being is more important. It is an act of being protected.


message 2455: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Aqsa wrote: "Suicide is Haram (forbidden) in Islam. I don't know what religions you guys follow or if any of you doesn't believe in them.

This life is a gift and a test. This is all borrowed and we can't throw..."


Yes, exactly.


message 2456: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments I can't believe how often so many people here talk about attempting suicide. It seems easy but it's not. It's not easy. Maybe it is easy swallowing the pills or slicing your arms or jumping off a building but what if u regret it and then it's too late?

It hurts when someone pushes us out of their life right? Esp if we care about them. Well, if we kill ourselves, we are pushing them all out of our lives. Telling them we don't care because we are so selfish and just wanted a way out. Only we are not affected by our actions guys.
Think about your parents, your siblings, friends and other loved ones. Someone loves you even if some of them don't express it so well.


message 2457: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
To be honest, I don't want to live, which is why I don't want to contact a help centre or hotline.

And I don't really care about what happens after. I wouldn't be there, and that is all I want. It does scare me - not after that previous five or six attempts. I don't want to be some extra, unwanted weed out there to hinder everyone. At least for me, is the best solution I've got.


message 2458: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Just give it a thought. Even if you die, LIFE WILL MOVE ON. People will worry for a day? A week? A month? or a year? and then you'll slowly be in the past. No one goes to your grave with you? R u ready to get buried in the ground yet? All alone? Truly alone for the first time?

You have to be stronger than that and look after yourself. Scold yourself for even hurting a single hair of yours. Be with positive people whether in person or virtually. Read Self help books. Watch some good movies. Stop listening to sad music and listen to something lively. Try smiling for little things and do little things for others.
Try.


message 2459: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Trust me you really don't want this to happen to you Hallie. I can tell you. Nothing is more painful than death.


message 2460: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hallie wrote: "To be honest, I don't want to live, which is why I don't want to contact a help centre or hotline.

And I don't really care about what happens after. I wouldn't be there, and that is all I want. I..."


Weed? If u r so extra why would u be sent in the world? We are all extras then!

U will be somewhere. Better give it some thought. This'll only help if u try to save yourself. it's all for nothing if u dont want to listen to anyone at all!


message 2461: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Have you tried therapeutic activities to help you think of the good things.


message 2462: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Rumell wrote: "Trust me you really don't want this to happen to you Hallie. I can tell you. Nothing is more painful than death."

I agree. The alive can't see the pain, can't feel the pain when one's soul is being snatched away from the body. It's the worst thing in the world. I wish we could hear the pain, no one would suicide then.


message 2463: by Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] (new)

Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] Okay Hallie, first off, I still haven't gotten over Emma's death, it hurts like hell, I role-played with her and still barely knew her but when she committed suicide I felt like shit. Now, I had a chance to know you, to talk to you, if you commit suicide I'll feel three times worse about it. I dont wanna lose another friend, especially someone I care about and I love. Hallie, you are the best friend I have ever had, and now I know I have many best friends and they're all unique but you're just as unique as any friend I meet. You're a wonderful person and you've helped me out a lot and cheered me up and I dont want to lose that person I've known and love. Hallie, you're wonderful and I care about you


message 2464: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
I could go on and on about this, but then this might end up turning into a post advocating suicide, which is not what I want to do.

Exactly. So eventually, no one will care about me. I'm not around, and they will subsequently forget that I ever existed (not that they remember my existence when I'm right in front of them). That's exactly what I want. Be truly alone? That's how I've been most of my life. Being alone in my grave would be the best thing for me.


message 2465: by Aqsa (last edited Sep 27, 2018 10:35AM) (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments You should stop thinking about the little blunders u made that seem too huge for u to take your life.
The real blunder would be suicide.
We r not lying here or exaggerating for the sake of just stopping you. People die everyday. So many depart this world every second.

The real life is the one after this one and the one's who suicide are definitely in for something. We should pray for those who did that so that maybe He forgives them.
Live Hallie.
And live optimistically.


message 2466: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Try these activities if you want:

1) Games and Quizzes
2) Art, Crafts and Performing Arts
3) Sports and Exercise#


message 2467: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hallie wrote: "I could go on and on about this, but then this might end up turning into a post advocating suicide, which is not what I want to do.

Exactly. So eventually, no one will care about me. I'm not aroun..."


This is stupidity and stupid logic. We all feel neglected. Hell, I feel like no one cares about me. That my very existence is a burden. But who am I to take away this life? I have NO RIGHT and neither do you.

Try living alone for a month. or so. Alone in a room with no connection to the outside. And see.
People often don't care until they lose us. And even if they don't, what makes u think that no one will EVER care for u? You have so many days ahead. Give life a chance. It's like starting a book and DNF it after a couple of pages when the story haven't even started and deep inside u know it.


message 2468: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
I beg to differ. Everyone dies someday. It doesn't matter whether I die today or tomorrow. Ultimately it's the same outcome. And I'd rather die than be a failure, so talking me out of this, I'm sorry, but it's not possible.


message 2469: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 27, 2018 09:22AM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments But forget those people who don't care about you because they aren't worth your time. It is actually the suicide itself. It is really painful. Sometimes you think you wish people didn't care about you but suicide will win. We will have banners of you and tragedy.


message 2470: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hallie wrote: "I beg to differ. Everyone dies someday. It doesn't matter whether I die today or tomorrow. Ultimately it's the same outcome. And I'd rather die than be a failure, so talking me out of this, I'm sor..."

Suicide is failure accepted way before the ending line. Everyone dies, Sure. But we can't just all murder ourselves! Look Hallie. Take a moment and think about it all. And then think if u need to be saved or u just need to be ignored and in grave.

I think you're here because u wanna be saved.


message 2471: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
Rumell wrote: "But forget those people who don't care about you because they aren't worth your time. It is actually the suicide itself. It is really painful. Sometimes you think you wish people didn't care about ..."

Hahaha have you met the people who know me? I'd be surprised if they knew I committed suicide. How do I know? Because I've tried before. More than once.


message 2472: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Rumell is right.

Why do u concern yourself so much about what other's think? Anyone can think anything about anyone. Even u can. So what, if u don't like someone and if I don't like someone or their past, they should attempt suicide?


message 2473: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hallie, They know u dont respect ur life, How can u expect them to? Tell me?

First u have to respect yourself, n ur life. Then perhaps u can try n expect something of them. Look how difficult u r. Then imagine how difficult others can be.


message 2474: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
Aqsa wrote: "Hallie wrote: "I beg to differ. Everyone dies someday. It doesn't matter whether I die today or tomorrow. Ultimately it's the same outcome. And I'd rather die than be a failure, so talking me out o..."

I'll agree with you on that, but I'm the kind that would go for a more permanent solution than repeat the same thing over and over again. People have said this so many times - that I need to be saved. Maybe I do, but at the same time, I want to die.


message 2475: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Haven't u read about the spider/ant that got it on the 8th try?
U wanna give suicide so many chances and yet none to life.

U r here because u want to be saved (Need to be is in both scenarios) but u want it means u intentionally or unintentionally WANT it. Otherwise u would be gone. U wouldn't come here to tell us u wanna go.


message 2476: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
Aqsa wrote: "Rumell is right.

Why do u concern yourself so much about what other's think? Anyone can think anything about anyone. Even u can. So what, if u don't like someone and if I don't like someone or the..."


That's not quite what I'm feeling. Others can do whatever the hell they want; I know how much they can not care about me. I know that even if I'm gone, they still don't care about me. And I don't care about that after I'm dead. It's not what they think that bothers me; it's what I do that annoys me.

Aqsa wrote: "Hallie, They know u dont respect ur life, How can u expect them to? Tell me?

First u have to respect yourself, n ur life. Then perhaps u can try n expect something of them. Look how difficult u r...."


Well, they don't. They don't know that I don't love my life. In fact they think the contrary. It's that me dying isn't going to impact them in any major way. That's what I mean.


message 2477: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Well, then the problem is you. Stop cursing and blaming yourself Hallie. Start there. The rest will follow. I recommend u give yourself a chance. A REAL CHANCE with all your heart and not just from the outside. Tell yourself all the time u deserve everything. Dont use any negative words for yourself n try to forgive yourself.

Give YOU a chance and then u r free to do whatever u want. U still are.


message 2478: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Well, we know that. we know u dont love ur life.

I'd love to be your friend Hallie. A real friend and not just an occasional hello and bye if you want to. I'll be honest and u can share anything whenever u want. I'd love to hear.

I have a friend. My best friend. We only spent 3 months together but since then we never met again. We talk every day. All stupid stuff about small things.

U can talk to me. I won't judge or try not to judge.


message 2479: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Give it a thought and text me when you're ready.
I'll come online again soon!

Hope u see a text from you if u think me worthy of ur thoughts :)


message 2480: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hallie? U r not nobody. No one is. And u matter. U may not know it now but u will. Some day.


message 2481: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 27, 2018 01:18PM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments I may not met these sort of people but look do you want to punish yourself so much because of them.


message 2482: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Let's say we swapped souls and bodies of each other. I'm you and you're me. What would you say if I said that I wanted to commit suicide? I can understand that depression and anxiety is taking over you and I know how it is like having mental illness taking over. But imagine depression was a person what would you say to them?


message 2483: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Why not live a life a little more and wait for 100 years and see if you improve?


message 2484: by Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] (new)

Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] Hallie, my online bestie and sister. Dont do this to us or yourself.


message 2485: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 28, 2018 05:24AM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments I think the real bullies are the ones who are invisible. I can see that you are being abused by 4 main bullies. Mr. Dep Ression, Mrs. Anne Xiety, Mr. Pan Nick Attack and the mastermind Mr. Sui Cide. They are messing around your head and they need to stop. Mr Sui Cide is never your best friend and he is acting like your best friend and making you naïve to think that Mr. Death is a pleasant person to meet. He is planning to working with Mrs. Idontcareabouttheworld so they can rule over you. I think you have to fight these people and stand up in twofeets in front of them to say that you are not going anywhere and you are happy where you are at. Mr. Death will have to wait and needs to be patient.


message 2486: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments If I said what you said I don't think I would get more people that care for me.


message 2487: by Hallie, I'm all about the books (new)

Hallie (inkyhallie) | 5470 comments Mod
Aqsa, well, I don't want to give myself or life anymore chances. I've done that already, and it's just a punch in the face. I just don't want to. It's just a lot better for everyone if I disappeared off the face of the earth.

Rumell, you raised a good point there - what if someone I cared about talked about this? Well, I know exactly what I would tell them. I'm not sure if it would actually help them, but I do know what words to use. Which makes it even more convenient for me to evade the same advice if it comes my way right now. How do I expect them to take my advice when I don't? I just hope they do. Yes, I'm self-centred, and yes, it's stupid of me, but I don't care. I don't know why I'm even defending myself here. Maybe like Aqsa said, I want to be saved unintentionally, but I can see that not happening - not because none of you are trying, but because I'm long gone. Although, Rumell, that's a really intriguing and nice way of turning mental illnesses into a kind of story :)


message 2488: by Mystic Orange (last edited Sep 28, 2018 05:15AM) (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments I think this is what most adolescents go through in daily life. I have had a course on Health and Social Care in GCSE's. And they have mentioned what struggles that most teenagers go through. There are lot that tick the boxes.

Most adolescence are egotistical and they are still learning through what it is best and what it isn't.

I think adolescence are still to young for this.

I think I have had same problems as you had. Sometimes I would hate myself when I was young. I have gone through so much which I don't always talk about in online. But I realise now that it is actually the adolescent self in me that is making me do that. I guess it is just when we are at that stage we are really confused on making the decisions. Mostly from the age of 11 the mind starts to change and knew cognitive attach but these aren't organised and that is what makes us confused on what is actually a best solution. We learn so much now because we start to delve into the surroundings.

Imagine yourself as a 5 year old and how you were 10year olds. Think about how you thought in these different ages. Also try thinking about how it will be like when you are 20 or 30.

I can understand High School is a pressure to most people but once you are out you will be relieved and you are able to look back and think 'what was I really thinking back in that age', 'did I really need to feel the way I did back then' and 'what it is going to be like when I amm going older'

Trust me that things do get better. OI can tell you from my own experience I didn't have much people to hang around with when I was year 7-year 11 and most (all)people would be out of my league and we have really realised that we weren't able emphasise in other peoples shoes. But once I got out of it and transitioned to where I am now I was able to shrug off the things in the past. You don't always have to be alone either and you will meet so many people with so many challenges and you will realise the stuff you were going through is a story. A human life is basically a human book.

When we are born it is like the front cover of book. All your books is like a memoir and they are titled with your name. I see every time I am getting to a new age it is like a chapter and the last chapter is where you are finally dead. Your story is still being written and it is a legendary book that we will always be reading.

I myself have a book and I think God is writing it for me. If you want you can check my group 'My Characters'. You will see that I have tried writing about a story called 'The Alpha-Families' and you will see the theme that I have tried presenting characters. There was a reason why I wrote it. and to me it is a fictional version of a memoir. This is the group by the way: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/... It is not the best piece of work. But I try to let people see that the siblings will see each other when they get older or look back when they were young.

To me it is like taking care of my 16 younger brothers even though I only have one.


message 2489: by Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] (new)

Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] I feel crappy rn.


message 2490: by Christine (new)

Christine Hatfield  (christinesbookshelves) | 835 comments Raven I feel bad for you


message 2491: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Hi Christine


message 2492: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments I agree with Rumell.

I can't believe what I was up to 2 or 3 yrs ago ago. Damn!

Adolescence is a tricky stage.


message 2493: by Mystic Orange (new)

Mystic Orange (Rumell) (rkrespectedmember) | 2543 comments Hi Aqsa.


message 2494: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Hi Rumell :)


message 2495: by Becca (new)

Becca Watts I haven’t been on here for quite some time, but I do care. Does anyone know if Hallie is safe?


message 2496: by Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] (new)

Jaxon(Jax)[They-He] She's safe, I think


message 2497: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments I guess so.


message 2498: by Becca (new)

Becca Watts Okay thanks. I love and care for everyone in this community, let me know if you ever need to talk about anything.


message 2499: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Yeah she's fine :)


message 2500: by Aqsa (new)

Aqsa (her_747) | 570 comments Thanks Rebecca. You can too!


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