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[Bilal]

Somehow I expected Jogi to partake in abstinence, don't know why. My hopes and Image of the 13 headed giga chad called jogi has been crushed. :(

[Uzair]

How Bilal imagines Jogi :

[Uzair]

Zarshal wrote: "@Jogi could probably benefit quite a bit if @Ramla starts giving him dating advice xD

Although, I can’t really imagine him in a relationship. How brutal."

I have a mental image of Jogi dissecting what his wife says the way he dissected my thoughts on the trial 😂

Still learned alot :P

[Ramla Zareen]

Zarshal wrote: "@Jogi could probably benefit quite a bit if @Ramla starts giving him dating advice xD"

Hahaha. I simply suggested an avenue which might have helped him in this matter. He rejected my idea though, which shows how bad I am at this. Lol.

[Ramla Zareen]

@Bilal

Which Judith McNaught book are you talking about?

Was it one of her Historical Romances (HR)?

I'm afraid heroes in HR can be overbearing—verging on abusive—especially if judged by modern times. The stories are set in an era where such treatment of women was the norm.

Fans of HR take this into account when reading this genre. (Though thankfully, not all HR books feature such heroes).

If you've read HR, you'd know these "horrible heroes" are actually better men compared to their peers, and by the end of the story, they're reformed to an extent they'd be considered decent even by today's standards.

But I definitely wouldn't recommend any guy to follow in their footsteps when romancing a girl in real life. Lol. (Though it would be okay if a guy adopted whatever good qualities those heroes had. Like Ian Thronton in Almost Heaven. He wasn't perfect, but he had certain qualities every woman would want in her man. Lol.)

I was talking about Contemporary Romance (CR) when I said readers don't tolerate the hero doing anything that verges on pestering, harassing, or stalking the heroine. (Let alone abusing or assaulting her).

It's possible CR written till 1990s contain these elements. (Not abuse or assault but the other things). People weren't so aware at that time.

But nowadays—as far as I know—authors take pain not to have their heroes behave that way.

[Zarshal]

@Jogi I actually thought it would be brutal on BOTH of the involved parties. I see maybe I’m wrong now xD

@Bilal not a good reason to date someone, but then again if he had abs and everything, he wouldn’t have been worried about dating in the first place.😂

@Uzair, That’s not an image of a very healthy relationship. It would’ve been fun to watch what women usually do being practiced on women though xD

[Zarshal]

@Ramla, I think it was an exceptional idea though.

[Thall]

Ramla Zareen wrote: "@Bilal

Which Judith McNaught book are you talking about?

Was it one of her Historical Romances (HR)?

I'm afraid heroes in HR can be overbearing—verging on abusive—especially if judged by modern ..."

I'd take the abusive, toxic masculinity, HR heroes over the modern "men written by women" any day. At least the former got shit done.

But true, even those olden heroes had problems of being undependable and flimsy -- very characteristic of nearly all caricatures offered under "Romance", modern or old.

I have a brilliant idea. If we really want examples to follow, how about we do away with Romance entirely? It doesn't really work in the short-term but I have immense faith that it does in the long-term.

Zarshal wrote: "@Jogi I actually thought it would be brutal on BOTH of the involved parties. I see maybe I’m wrong now xD"

It is. I get bored too easily. And Uzair's mental imagery is right except it's not just sayings; I psychoanalyze them back to Adam & Eve.

[Ramla Zareen]

First of all, I wished to add to my previous message:

There was this old PTV drama: Ankahi. I watched it on a DVD. The hero in the drama had definite perstering-harassing-stalkerish tendencies. Lol. Yet it was considered acceptable and romantic. Even I didn't mind it because it somehow fit with that time period. I recently saw a hero with similar tendencies in a current Pakistani drama. They tried to show him as romantic, but he came across as a criminal to me. Lol. I ended up ditching the drama.

Similarly, readers expectations vary with respect to eras and culture. Just because certain traits and actions are overlooked in stories set in a particular time period doesn't mean they would be accepted in stories set in current times. You can still learn from the characters and adopt some of their qualities and actions if you wish to. But make sure the qualities and actions fit with your times and values :-)

Now,

Bilal wrote: "I have a brilliant idea. If we really want examples to follow, how about we do away with Romance entirely? It doesn't really work in the short-term but I have immense faith that it does in the long-term."

Well, as I mentioned earlier, people read Romance for a bit of escapism. To relax, to unwind, and to be entertained. They read it because they enjoy it. No one picks up a Romance book with a conscious intention that they'd learn from the characters or follow their examples.

It's just, sometimes you connect with certain characters or get attached to them. You see them learning from their experiences and going on to become better individuals and partners. You appreciate the lessons they learned, and you think implementing those lessons might benefit you as well. Or certain qualities in characters endear them to you, and you also feel like wanting to adopt those qualities. It doesn't happen with every book and with every character. It might not happen at all. As I said, you can just take it as an entertainment and leave it at that :-)

If I speak about myself, it happens with me quite a lot. Not only with Romance, but with any genre that focus on the characters, their evolution, and their relationship with other people—family, friends, love-interest. It has happened to me with Cozy Mystery. It happened to me with Harry Potter books. Lol. It has happened to me with Classics.

I didn't decide to read eight books of the Anne of Green Gables series and four books of the Little Women series with the intention of learning something. I just found the premise interesting and thought I'd enjoy the books. Which I did. But at the same time, I got attached to the characters, and they ended up teaching me a lot. I've already shared the details, so I won't bore you guys by repeating them again. Lol. But I highly recommend these books to anyone who enjoys character-driven stories :-)

[Ramla Zareen]

Zarshal wrote: "@Ramla, I think it was an exceptional idea though."

Lol. Thanks Zarshal :-)

[Hifza]

@ramla Very eloquent. I like your perspective.

[Ramla Zareen]

Hifza wrote: "@ramla Very eloquent. I like your perspective."

Thank you Hifza :-)

[Batool✨]

@Ramla, well i also think it's totally depends upon ourselves to choose if we want to learn something from characters or we are just curious about stories and what's going on in it lol:

nearly four months ago i picked Colleen hoover book "ugly love" i picked it just of curiosity because it was so much hyped and i read it, but after reading it at first i thought it was rubbish and there was alot unnecessary romance in it with no purpose and no lesson but recently,

when i analysed this book i came to a conclusion that no matter how rubbish it was or how much unnecessary romance was in it but it contain alot of lessons, and from these lessons i make alot of choices and all went well.

So point is that it's totally depend upon us what we choose to seek.
:)

[Batool✨]

@Ramla: recently i complete anne of the green gables and it was so brilliant and so hilarious i think it is my best read of june and i am so much excited about remaining seven books in this series,

i think all the mistakes that anne make and all those hilarious ideas of her ( as you can remember) make me feel better about myself because I'm kinda imaginative, also her grooming self was so pleasing ❤️
i adore such books so much, and i think i am going to complete this series in winter months lol:)

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[Hifza]

@Batool I read Anne of green gable when I was probably 13-14 y/o. At that age Anne came across as incredibly annoying to me since her dialogues were more of a verbal stream of thought and ran off for pages and pages lol.

However, your description is making me think of giving it a re-read. I'll try reading it again :D

[Bilal]

Okay guys someone make a shedule for The book of disquiet

[Batool✨]

@Hifza, you must give it a re-read than maybe you change your ideas about it as i change mine for "ugly love".

[Ramla Zareen]

Batool✨ wrote: "@Ramla, well i also think it's totally depends upon ourselves to choose if we want to learn something from characters or we are just curious about stories and what's going on in it lol:"

You're right. I realise I shouldn't have generalised people's reasons for reading Romance. Everyone can have their own reasons for choosing a certain book or genre to read. Plus, everyone who reads a certain book or genre can have a different experience with it :-)

Batool wrote: "but recently,

when i analysed this book i came to a conclusion that no matter how rubbish it was or how much unnecessary romance was in it but it contain alot of lessons, and from these lessons i make alot of choices and all went well."

Good for you :-)

[Batool✨]

@Bilal, this "book of disquiet" isn't available in most of the online stores but readings.com and in that store it's nearly 3k plus delivery will take alot of time like four or six months so option is that if this book is decided than we must read it in pdf or epub format and most of you guys are saying they won't read in pdf or epub.

[Ramla Zareen]

Batool✨ wrote: "@Ramla: recently i complete anne of the green gables and it was so brilliant and so hilarious i think it is my best read of june and i am so much excited about remaining seven books in this series,..."

@Batool

I'm so glad you enjoyed Anne of Green Gables! I hope you like the remaining books as well :-)

I've read these books several times over the years, and I enjoyed them every single time and learned something new each time. The books have always been a source of joy, comfort, and motivation to me. Plus, I love Anne and consider her as one of my best friends :-)

[Uzair]

Bilal wrote: "Okay guys someone make a shedule for The book of disquiet"

Huzzah. The progidal son finally buckles.


Also really glad to see so much activity in the group again guys! God knows it's been a while

[Bilal]

I'm not really reading. But it hurts my brain seeing the sanctity of this thread being abused by chit chat.

[Ramla Zareen]

Just wished to add a little to the "heroes in Romance books written by women" discussion:

A good author will try her best to make her characters as relatable as possible. The heroes won't be exactly the same as real men. If they were, it wouldn't be escapism, would it? Lol. But the author will add enough real in them to make them believable. You could say they'd be an improved version of the real :-)

Which is why I suppose readers might be tempted to emulate them. Most aspirational characters in fiction are "real but better but not perfect" people, who learn from their mistakes and find a better way of handling life and relationships over the course of the story.

If you wish to learn from such characters or adopt some of their qualities then do it to improve yourself and do it regardless of the genre. Good things can be learned from anyone, anywhere, and at any time. As long as you keep your mind open. Just my two cents :-)

Having said that, if a guy tries to improve his dating life via Romance books because he believes the heroes are solely the result of women's fantasies and he could find out what women want by reading about them then that might not work out. What's one woman's fantasy could be another woman's nightmare. He could end up worse off than before. Lol.

Bilal wrote: "I'm not really reading. But it hurts my brain seeing the sanctity of this thread being abused by chit chat."

Sorry @Bilal, I'll try to shut up now :-)

[Aakash]

Sorry guys, been busy lately… I think it’s the adult life xD anyhow which book are you guys reading? I’ll update the thread title accordingly.

[Bilal]

Remember the olden 2016 days. Me,sara,nigham,momi,uzair,genio, ammara,zarshal and ayesha. buddy read used to be so active. also we're reading the book of disquiet.

[Bilal]

oh yes. it's amna not ayesha :p

[Uzair]

I don't recall an Ammarah?

Oh and don't forget Ahmed and Abdullah!

[Bilal]

ah yes abdullah khalid.

Ammara Ahmed i think.

[Batool✨]

@Bilal @Uzair: Nostalgic EH!

[Uzair]

Aakash wrote: "Sorry guys, been busy lately… I think it’s the adult life xD anyhow which book are you guys reading? I’ll update the thread title accordingly."

I don't want the adult life , take me back to being a cringy 12 year old 😔.

Anyway we're reading The Book of Disquiet.

Can anyone make a schedule plz??

[Thall]

Uzair wrote: "Aakash wrote: "Sorry guys, been busy lately… I think it’s the adult life xD anyhow which book are you guys reading? I’ll update the thread title accordingly."

I don't want the adult life , take me..."

Can you even make a schedule? It doesn't have any chapters ...

PS Adult life >>>>>>>

[Uzair]

Batool✨ wrote: "@Bilal @Uzair: Nostalgic EH!"

Oh this entire group is nostalgic. I grew up here , sometimes I stumble across an old thread I made and am either delighted or horrified

[Uzair]

Jogi wrote: "Uzair wrote: "Aakash wrote: "Sorry guys, been busy lately… I think it’s the adult life xD anyhow which book are you guys reading? I’ll update the thread title accordingly."

I don't want the adult ..."

I guess we could divide it by pages per day?

Also being an adult has it's perks but being a kid well.
You don't really have to do anything do you. Fun

[Bilal]

no one follows schedules anyways. Let's make a start and an end date.

[Bilal]

@Uzair

Kids on the street picking up your trash for a living right now -_-

[Batool✨]

@Bilal

we must start it after Eid holidays so it'll be 14 july and you guys now tell the end date.
note: remember this book is kinda nearly 600 pages so (a proper ending date).

:D

[Uzair]

Bilal wrote: "@Uzair

Kids on the street picking up your trash for a living right now -_-"

You're a real bundle of sunshine aren't you :P

[Thall]

Uzair wrote: "Jogi wrote: "Uzair wrote: "Aakash wrote: "Sorry guys, been busy lately… I think it’s the adult life xD anyhow which book are you guys reading? I’ll update the thread title accordingly."

I don't wa..."

Can do.

Not having anything to do was and continues to be a nightmare.

[Zarshal]

EID MUBARAK EVERYONE!🎉🎉

[Bilal]

eid mubarak to you and your qurbani (husbando)

[Zarshal]

Hahahha thankyou @Bilal but I’m celebrating in Pakistan with my family this year. My qurbani’s back home xD

[Batool✨]

Eid Mubarak reader's◉‿◉

[Ramla Zareen]

Eid Mubarak everyone :-)

[Hifza]

Khair mubarak<3

[Uzair]

Eid Mubarak
UwU
👉👈

[Thall]

Whomst reading

[Uzair]

Only Jogi could be dramatic enough to comment at the crack of dawn :O

Anyways I think it's just the two of us

[Uzair]

The ebook gas 1445 pages , so about 90 a day?

[Hifza]

When does the reading start?

[Thall]

Uzair wrote: "The ebook gas 1445 pages , so about 90 a day?"

Sorry boss, can only do 9 at best. No need to plan, just start reading. When I read it the first time, I enjoyed it so much that I used to read the same page about 10 times before moving on to the next at the rate of 20 pages per day. I'm hoping the same happens to you all. It's not compulsory to finish the book by the end of the month. Just start, we'll see if we finish this or not. Not like having another book on the pipeline should cause a problem. I usually start 5-10 books at once and finish them all in like 2 years.