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message 4351: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 01, 2020 09:22PM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Aakash wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "That was @Aakash’s way of saying: “No thanks, maybe next time.” xD"

kinda very busy... xD"


Working from home?!😂😂😅


message 4352: by Bilal (new)

Bilal Taibzada | 487 comments Hey guys!
long time no see.

just wanted to say that I will be joining the buddy read this April as part of my annual good reads tradition. looking forward to it!


message 4353: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Bilal wrote: "Hey guys!
long time no see.

just wanted to say that I will be joining the buddy read this April as part of my annual good reads tradition. looking forward to it!"



Hey!
A very long time no see! xD How are you?

Great to have you back in BR! ^^


message 4354: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 02, 2020 11:19PM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Hey, guys!
Who is having online classes these days?

Mine will start from 13th.


message 4355: by Bilal (new)

Bilal Taibzada | 487 comments Ahmed wrote: "Hey, guys!
Who is having online classes these days?

Mine will start from 13th."



Alhamdulillah no classes for me.


message 4356: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments I heard they were about to start online classes from monday. But its friday now and still no news 🤷‍♀️
Frankly, I don’t really want them to start online classes. We can’t learn engineering reading books. There are labs and stuff which they can’t teach us through a couple of video lectures and books.

About the book, Ahmed can you please upload an epub copy? I can’t download it from your drive I don’t know what’s wrong.. :(


message 4357: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Bilal wrote: "Ahmed wrote: "Hey, guys!
Who is having online classes these days?

Mine will start from 13th."


Alhamdulillah no classes for me."


Good for you, bud!


message 4358: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments @Zarshal
I'm an engineering student too so my argument was same..We can't learn lab's stuff by just a couple of videos...
We requested for the cancellation of online classes but koi faida ni hua...Rector explained the reasons of continuing online learning and to be honest he was not wrong too..

Now uni has come up with the best solution. And I think it's not a bad deal:
They have decided to deliver online classes for two pure theoretical courses (no labs at all) and these courses will be completed from 13th April to 31st May. After that, when uni will be opened IA, they will cover the labs and remaining courses..

I think that's the best deal we students can get in this unpredictable situation...
Bs thora sa nuksaan ye hoga k summer vacations boht km hongi..or semester lamba ho jaye ga...I guess khair ha given the situation...

For now till 13th April, I'm full wailla. xD


message 4359: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 03, 2020 04:46AM) (new)


message 4360: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments That is a good solution weseh. Lekin I guess in that situation we could study only one course: Stats and probability. Baaki tou sab are labs :|
I don’t know what our university’s gonna do. Lekin tab tak I’m learning what I can khudi. Softwares and stuff.


message 4361: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "That is a good solution weseh. Lekin I guess in that situation we could study only one course: Stats and probability. Baaki tou sab are labs :|
I don’t know what our university’s gonna do. Lekin ta..."


Mine are two courses:
Engineering Professionalism
Probability Methods in Engineering..

yeah...In this time khudse zyada mehnat krni pre gi.. :(


message 4362: by Elsa (new)

Elsa Qazi | 741 comments shukr khuda ka main uni main nahi hon


message 4363: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Elsa wrote: "shukr khuda ka main uni main nahi hon"

hahaha...lucky you!
But I think university life is much better than college's. I suffered a hell lot in college...😅😅


message 4364: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments tfw CS major
> all courses online
> all labs online
> multiple assignments at once
> all on my own suggestions because I was the most vocal supporter of moving online

but heeey at least all coursera courses are free for us now, thanks Uni


message 4365: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments So I guess we should officially start this month’s read?

There are five women and the book is divided into five parts, one part per woman. We can divide the rest of the days of April into five parts, which gives us 5 days to read each part. We can discuss each part-slash-woman after five days.

What do you guys say?


message 4366: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "So I guess we should officially start this month’s read?

There are five women and the book is divided into five parts, one part per woman. We can divide the rest of the days of April into five par..."


Done


message 4367: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Ahmed We just received the notification for online classes starting from April 13. 😂


message 4368: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Ahmed We just received the notification for online classes starting from April 13. 😂"

Same! 😅
13 to 5th June.


message 4369: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Yeah well. What choice do they have anyway.


message 4370: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Yeah..😕


message 4371: by Abdullah (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments Our online classes are cancelled. We got summer vacations now lol. And tbh it's much more fun. Because it gives us time to learn from online courses and stuff without many distractions. Though there's a con. We'll have no summer vacations.


message 4372: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Abdullah wrote: "Our online classes are cancelled. We got summer vacations now lol. And tbh it's much more fun. Because it gives us time to learn from online courses and stuff without many distractions. Though ther..."

Ahan....good for you.. :)
I'm also doing some online courses, but all will be over after 13th.. 😅
It's a good thing they'll just teach 2 courses online... :)


message 4373: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Yeah I’m learning some stuff online too.
Softwares mostly.
@Abdullah, Goodluck for when your actual summer vacation months arrive xD


message 4374: by Aakash (new)

Aakash (mistyanon) | 5393 comments Mod
Jogi wrote: "tfw CS major
> all courses online
> all labs online
> multiple assignments at once
> all on my own suggestions because I was the most vocal supporter of moving online

but heeey at least all course..."


link :V


message 4375: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments Aakash wrote: "Jogi wrote: "tfw CS major
> all courses online
> all labs online
> multiple assignments at once
> all on my own suggestions because I was the most vocal supporter of moving online

but heeey at lea..."


Try this: https://go.coursera.org/FxpldQtRxV1S


message 4376: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!


message 4377: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!"

I suggest CS50.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...

Coursera is better for when you want to specialize in a subject.


message 4378: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Okayy. Thankyouu! :)


message 4379: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!"

Which programming language?


message 4380: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 07, 2020 12:41PM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Jogi wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!"

I suggest CS50.
ht..."


This seems amazing...we've already covered most of it in uni...but I guess I'd use this link for different perspective on things
Thanks. ^^


message 4381: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Ahmed C, C++
Although I’m still wondering why learning programming is a pre-req for an AutoCAD course. I’ve already learned AutoCAD before C++ and didn’t encounter a single issue.
Who decides our syllabus and courses?!?


message 4382: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Ahmed C, C++
Although I’m still wondering why learning programming is a pre-req for an AutoCAD course. I’ve already learned AutoCAD before C++ and didn’t encounter a single issue.
Who decides our..."


Actually, it's related but not that deeply. AutoCAD also has its own programming language called AutoLISP which is used to write code for repetitive tasks while working on a long project.

I'm doing the AutoCAD course this semester and also was not understanding why programming is the pre-rec...I googled the answer at that moment...😅😅

But as far as the uni is concerned, I'm not getting why it's the pre-requisite because our professor told us we are not gonna work with AutoLISP. So, technically, it makes sense, but my uni wise, it doesn't...😂
Maybe you guys will work on it in your uni...


message 4383: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 07, 2020 08:46PM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments For C:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjzfa...

For OOP (pre-rec for C++):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rCWi...

For C++:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iuo9P...


I learned C and C++ from this man. I guess he is the best. Because our uni professor was not good for beginners and most of the times I missed a lot of things in the lec. I also tried to learn from many videos on YouTube but found this man the best. I'd recommend if you watch his lectures then listen at the speed of 1.5
Because he speaks way too slow.😅😅 At least for me..


message 4384: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments No I don’t think we’ll work with autolisp because no one here even knows what that is. And we have Designing after that. So no point in teaching us c.
Are you studying Civil Engineering?


message 4385: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Thanks for the links!


message 4386: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments They are teaching you programming cuz they know Engineering doesn't have any jobs and ya'll are gonna end up in software freelancing anyway.


message 4387: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 08, 2020 01:16AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "No I don’t think we’ll work with autolisp because no one here even knows what that is. And we have Designing after that. So no point in teaching us c.
Are you studying Civil Engineering?"


Ahan... right...We're also doing just designing...

Nope, I'm doing Computer Engineering from COMSATS, Lahore.

No problem..I hope you'll like those videos..


message 4388: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 08, 2020 01:18AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Jogi wrote: "They are teaching you programming cuz they know Engineering doesn't have any jobs and ya'll are gonna end up in software freelancing anyway."

You're right....
As I'm doing Computer Engineering (CE), we are also told the same thing
Actually, CE is 60% computer hardware and 40% software. It's the manufacturing of computer, mobiles etc from scratch.
We don't have enough manufacturing industries in Pakistan, we are helpless but to join software houses...
Only Computer Engineers can do both software and hardware jobs..or hybrid.
Otherwise engineers would have to do software freelancing if not their actual jobs.


message 4389: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Btw, I think Civil Engineering is best in Pakistan. Otherwise engineerings are not that great.
Even I myself think Computer Engineering is not suitable for Pakistan..
But shoq ha computer ko A to Z samjhne ka... hardware and and software included...so yeah..😅


message 4390: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Civil engineering is good IF you get good teachers (which doesn’t happen very often here), otherwise you should just go to the contractors to learn how to do stuff. They’ll teach you better. I’ve studied survey but I still don’t know anything about it, which is why I’m gonna have to learn it from someone already on field. 🤷‍♀️

Its just so frustrating at times..

@Jogi, freelancing is a good backup plan.


message 4391: by Ahmed (last edited Apr 08, 2020 03:55AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "Civil engineering is good IF you get good teachers (which doesn’t happen very often here), otherwise you should just go to the contractors to learn how to do stuff. They’ll teach you better. I’ve s..."

Ahan... it's also the type of engineering which cannot be learnt much from internet as a lot of field work is included.

Best of luck! 👍
May odds be in your favour.


message 4392: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments That’s true too!
Thanks xD
You too!


message 4393: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "That’s true too!
Thanks xD
You too!"


Thanks! :)


message 4394: by Aakash (new)

Aakash (mistyanon) | 5393 comments Mod
Jogi wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!"

I suggest CS50.
ht..."


what are you doing in cs50? i have started the AI one what about yu?


message 4395: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments Aakash wrote: "Jogi wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems great!"

I sugg..."


I'm doing absolutely nothing with CS50. I don't know which AI course you're talking about. I did deeplearning.ai's specialization on coursera last year but I haven't done anything useful with that knowledge so far. Over and out.


message 4396: by Aakash (new)

Aakash (mistyanon) | 5393 comments Mod
Jogi wrote: "Aakash wrote: "Jogi wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedule. It seems ..."

the link youtube you have shared is CS50 from edx of computer science . recently they started another course called CS50 AI with python. so I was asking if you taking it as well.


message 4397: by Thall (new)

Thall (recantrecantrecant) | 599 comments Aakash wrote: "Jogi wrote: "Aakash wrote: "Jogi wrote: "Zarshal wrote: "I’m not a CS major but we have an introductory programming course which I think I’m going to take on this website ahead of university schedu..."

Well, I wouldn't need that. I already know enough to do state-of-the-art work in AI if I wanted, but I'm lazy af. Plus Uni work is on my tail so it's hard to find time and energy for my own pursuits.


message 4398: by Aakash (new)

Aakash (mistyanon) | 5393 comments Mod
Great


message 4399: by Abdullah (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments Ooh, CS50 is great course for beginners. I spent a few months doing it back in 2015. And that's the reason I developed interest in IT XD


message 4400: by Abdullah (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments Starting the book just now. I hope you guys are pretty much ahead of me XD


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