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message 4201: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Ahmed and I’m not able to see your spoilers 😂 idk whyy..


message 4202: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Nigham I liked that quote too. And it reminded me of that Picasso quote, was it? “Every child is an artist, the problem is how to remain an artist once we grow up.”
Close enough no?


message 4203: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Nigham that’s true. Although I can’t read what Ahmed’s written but I have a feeling I’ll agree with it.

But not sharing something due to fear of being judged or commented upon is one way of putting it. Sometimes people take the concept of being ‘true’ too brashly. And at other times people become so mean under the disguise of: “Hey you can’t handle the truth. I’m just being blunt.”

I think both these extremes are dangerous. The book discusses one of them, I just wanted to throw the second one out there too because so little people understand and take into account how what they say affects others nowadays.

Coming back to the book. It’s heavily symbolic. I’ve read 5 chapters and pretty sure I’m ahead of schedule so I’ll dedicate this day to reading a little bit about the author and when this book was written and why. I think it was some world war. I don’t remember which one. Will share after studying though.


message 4204: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Nigham wrote: "@Ahmad- 1st spoiler - That's so true, like author said in the very beginning that he'd talk about his paintings to other people, when they won't get it, he'd *bring* himself to their level and then..."

Yup..agreed
Many of us just try to blend in rather than being ourselves with others and this judgmental problem should be eliminated. Like everyone thinks only Engineers and Doctors have respect in society. That's totally rubbish. I myself becoming an engineer but I don't see why engineers deserve more respect than others. It's just the matter of skills. Everyone should choose a profession which sparks interest. Otherwise, it always end up very bad.


message 4205: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments okay...will share the quotes...


message 4206: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments @Nigham & Zarshal
You guys must be using the Goodreads app. It's the problem there. Spoilers aren't actually hidden there. I guess it's the bug in software..should tell them to fix this..
I'll message them..😅
Otherwise, on web, it's totally fine..


message 4207: by Ahmed (last edited Jan 20, 2020 10:11PM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Nigham that’s true. Although I can’t read what Ahmed’s written but I have a feeling I’ll agree with it.

But not sharing something due to fear of being judged or commented upon is one way of putt..."


Agreed. Extremes are bad. If you know what you say will hurt the other, then you should be silent.


message 4208: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Is spoiler alert code is this? (view spoiler)? I'm using gr after a long time and yes using app and it sucks!


message 4209: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments It changed what I had written... :O


message 4210: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments I guess that’s it. But I’ll have to open gr on laptop to confirm 😂
Spoiler tags don’t work on the app I guess. 🤷‍♀️


message 4211: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments I'm on chapter 10. And I've decided to share soemthing and I really hope it ain't spoiler haha... So don't you feel everything in this book represents something. For example little prince feels like childhood of the author... Idk if I should say more.


message 4212: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Nigham
I can guarantee you can’t spoil anything for me. Can’t speak for others though xD
I think this book is a satire on the strict realism of adults. Children live in a world of their own. Its light, fun and allows creativity which you can’t say so much for the fast life nowadays that we live. And this world lacks that imagination, and it needs more of it.


message 4213: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments And I was reading something the other day that I wanted to share. The flower the little prince talks about represents the author’s wife. He had some reservations about his relationship with her and he regretted later on that he didn’t understand her feelings and actions as much as he should have.
And this isn’t a spoiler btw. Just some general knowledge that’ll help you understand the context, is you have or haven’t already read about the flower.


message 4214: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Now 10th chapter is about the king inhabiting a nearby asteroid yeah? So I feel like he represents adult of some type...


message 4215: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Yes that king. That king says something towards the end. I can quote that but that’ll spoil the fun for others xD
Read that. That is important. Its a lesson.


message 4216: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Hawww, Zarshal I reloaded the tab and all this time u were commenting. :D and I just read them now haha


message 4217: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Wife? Well I didn't thought of that.
I thought maybe it's hope. Idk why I thought so but you are right! It could be her.


message 4218: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Hahahahaha
And I thought you were reading them all along 😂


message 4219: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Acha I'll read in a while. Abhi tou u have just started 10th.


message 4220: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Sure thing!


message 4221: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Yaar, to be honest I feel like we na 90s waly bachy, are the last ones to know the colorful childhood... From pitai to ainak Wala Jin... Aaj kal k bachy? Tobah Tobah!


message 4222: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments They always need to have things explained.

When the mystery is too overpowering, one dare not to disobey.

They are like that. One must not hold it against them. Children should always show great forbearance toward grown-up people.

You know - one loves the sunset, when one is so sad...

It is such a secret place, the land of tears.


message 4223: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments You know what I miss the most?
Those cartoons. Kids next door. Courage the cowardly dog. Powerpuff girls.
All those had a story. They taught us things. Courage, kindness.
Aaj kal k cartoons dekhe hain? Koi moral koi story nahin.


message 4224: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Nigham wrote: "Is spoiler alert code is this? [spoilers removed]? I'm using gr after a long time and yes using app and it sucks!"

yes it is


message 4225: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Nigham wrote: "I'm on chapter 10. And I've decided to share soemthing and I really hope it ain't spoiler haha... So don't you feel everything in this book represents something. For example little prince feels lik..."

seems right


message 4226: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Nigham
I can guarantee you can’t spoil anything for me. Can’t speak for others though xD
I think this book is a satire on the strict realism of adults. Children live in a world of their own. Its l..."


Why I'm having the feeling k you have read the book..😂


message 4227: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "Yes that king. That king says something towards the end. I can quote that but that’ll spoil the fun for others xD
Read that. That is important. Its a lesson."


Every chapter in this book has some sort of lesson of its own..That's why I love this book....👍


message 4228: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Nigham wrote: "Yaar, to be honest I feel like we na 90s waly bachy, are the last ones to know the colorful childhood... From pitai to ainak Wala Jin... Aaj kal k bachy? Tobah Tobah!"

Ksm se!!😂😂😂
Aj kl k bache boht taiz hain yr...😂
Hmari generation to masoom si thy..😅😅


message 4229: by Ahmed (last edited Jan 22, 2020 07:57AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "You know what I miss the most?
Those cartoons. Kids next door. Courage the cowardly dog. Powerpuff girls.
All those had a story. They taught us things. Courage, kindness.
Aaj kal k cartoons dekhe ..."


Exactly...
Animation bhi daikho na unka to ajeeb hi lgte..😂
Ajeeb o ghreeb se colors hote characters k.. especially jo India k chl rhe


message 4230: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Ahmed whoops xD haan I did. I couldn’t help it!
Haaan. And that language ajeeb si. Pata ni kya seekhengay bachay unseh aaj kal.


message 4231: by Ahmed (last edited Jan 22, 2020 08:30AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Ahmed whoops xD haan I did. I couldn’t help it!
Haaan. And that language ajeeb si. Pata ni kya seekhengay bachay unseh aaj kal."


Hahaha...But I did it before u...😂😂 :D

hn ajeeb hi ha...😅


message 4232: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Haha, people here are done with the book and look at the ones who haven't started yet @Abdullah @Asad @thelarki _tehreem?


message 4233: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Tum dono ko dykh k I did too. XD


message 4234: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Nigham wrote: "Tum dono ko dykh k I did too. XD"

Yayy!! XD


message 4235: by Ahmed (last edited Jan 23, 2020 12:10AM) (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments It was a good book, right? I really liked how it was narrated from perspective of a child. He said very mature things but in the wording of a child. That's good.


message 4236: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Hum dono ku dekh kar xD
🥳🥳


message 4237: by Abdullah (last edited Jan 23, 2020 09:57PM) (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments Nigham wrote: "Haha, people here are done with the book and look at the ones who haven't started yet @Abdullah @Asad @thelarki _tehreem?"

@Nigham, I feel attacked


message 4238: by Abdullah (last edited Jan 23, 2020 09:58PM) (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments I've started with a few pages will be done soon....


message 4239: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Abdullah wrote: "I've started with a few pages will be done soon...."

Bari deer krdi meherbaa ate ate...😜😉


message 4240: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments Hahahahahah


message 4241: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 25, 2020 11:43AM) (new)

My old goodreads account seems to have gone out of order, lol. Good thing that I had an updated spreadsheet of the books i've listed here, so I can slowly rebuild my GR record of books. This new account that I set up isn't what I really wanted if I had to make a new account. The biggest wtf is it filled my friends list by itself, and I hate that! I want to change a lot of its settings and stuff, and if I can't figure them out, I might have to delete this account and come up with yet another account. Why is goodreads not as user-friendly as other popular social media platforms... ughh

I'm sorry guys, I haven't read The Little Prince yet. I just downloaded its ebook version and it looks like a short read.

I've always intended to read this book since forever, but I never got around to it. I guess this is as good a time as any.

Tehreem, did you read it? Am I the only one who hasn't read it yet?


message 4242: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments Asad wrote: "My old goodreads account seems to have gone out of order, lol. Good thing that I had an updated spreadsheet of the books i've listed here, so I can slowly rebuild my GR record of books. This new ac..."

Oh sad...
yeah..GR is not so user-friendly...they really need to change a lot of things....
Can I add this acc of urs or r u planning to change it too?
let me know so I can add your active acc.
Wah yr...u maintain a spreadsheet for books! Great! I'm wondering if I lose my acc what'd happen to me who don't maintain any record😅


message 4243: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 26, 2020 12:00AM) (new)

Yeah you can add this account but I think I will change this one too and make a fresh one, which you can add later then!

And I didn't maintain a spreadsheet, lol. Goodreads has a useful feature that lets you download a spreadsheet of all the books in your shelves.

https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...

Use this feature to backup your record of books on GR.

Edited to add: I just tried the 'import' function with my last download which I got using the 'export' function on my old account. And it worked! It's adding all the books and shelves from my old account to this one! That's good to know and will help me when I set up my next, and proper account. I thought that I would have to add all those books manually. Maybe GR isn't so bad in its functionality after all :D


message 4244: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments What would I ever do if that happened to my goodreads account? 🤯


message 4245: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments @Asad
Ahan..sahi


message 4246: by Ahmed (new)

Ahmed  Ejaz (ahmedejaz) | 1783 comments @Zarshal
Will make a new one..😁😅


message 4247: by Zarshal (new) - rated it 3 stars

Zarshal Saeed (zarshalsaeed) | 814 comments @Ahmed Yeah. After 40 days of mourning..


message 4248: by Abdullah (new)

Abdullah Khalid | 808 comments Zarshal wrote: "@Ahmed Yeah. After 40 days of mourning.."

😂


message 4249: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments @Abdullah - good good me ne attack he Kia tha, seeeee? Now you have got hosh. XD


message 4250: by Nigham (new) - rated it 3 stars

Nigham | 4042 comments Yaar people there is a book names, The Return of the Little Prince by A. G Roemmers...


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