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lord of the flies, Buddy Read! :) [[Oct. 2022. ]]
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Nov 03, 2022 06:04AM

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Where have you all gone?"
Hi,
Sorry for the late reply. My daughter was having her first quarterly exams of the year, so I was busier than usual. 5th grade Gymnasium is tough and competitive. I did finish the series I was reading though, sometime in the last week of October. Then I read a few more books. Today I'm starting a new series. Let's see how it goes.
Anyway, it was nice hearing from everyone. Happy Reading :-)

Nigham wrote: "@Aakash- haww I ain't done yet with this book. Read like 50 percent or so. You can come back monday or tuesday. shoo abhi"
okay finish it
okay finish it

Thank you for the duas and kind words everyone :P
Won't come back to the buddy read yet , have way too many books on my currently reading for that .
So I meant to ask when reading Kafka or Dotoevsky is it something to just read? Because they're supposed to point to deeper meanings and when I'm just reading I just the story at face value.
As opposed to reading Meditations. Which I read one passage at a time and try to relate it to my life.

It's my opinion we can learn something from almost every book we read. It could be the same lessons the characters learned, or we could draw our own conclusions from their experiences and learn from them. A character could inspire us to aquire a positive value or trait or discard a negative value or trait. A book could offer us an insight into another culture or era. It could provide a positive message. It could offer us a fresh perspective. Help us improve our vocabulary or writing. Teach us something else. Whatever it is, there's usually some sort of personal growth on our part after we read a book.
However, if we read a book and end up learning nothing at all then that's okay too. Sometimes our mind is simply not in a receptive mode. Also, literature is subjective. Two people can perceive the same book differently. One person could find it insightful. Another person might not get anything from it.
Having said that, if it's bothering you that you didn't learn anything—or you didn't learn what you were supposed to learn—from those books then I suggest you try reading them again after a few years.
"As we go through life, we experience new events, encounter different people, and feel many emotions. This helps us to gain a fresh perspective and achieve a more mature level of understanding. So, when we read the same book at different stages of our lives, we learn something new each time."
Hope this helps, and oh, congratulations on being done with the MDCAT :-)

And as you said one reads and can't force themselves to learn. Returning with time.sounds pork a good idea
However if anyone knows how one could be more receptive to learning I'd very much like to hear that too!
Also thank you for.the kind words :P

Wanting to learn is half the battle. When we accept we don't know much and decide we want to know more, and we pick up a book, strike up a conversation, or take up an activity, believing it could teach us something new. That's when our mind starts becoming receptive.
When we think we know more than the book we're reading or the person we're talking to and assume they can't offer us anything new then our mind stops being receptive.
We can learn from almost anything and anyone as long as we keep our mind open to the possibility of learning. That's what I believe.
You're welcome :-)

Well said :P. Oftentimes there's something to learn even from the most unlikeliest of sources or people. I've learnt a lesson or two from people that were polar opposites to me. It helped the fact that they were unlike me meant they had qualities I didn't - bad @and good


Here's the link if anyone is interested:
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quot...
Happy Reading :-)

And I really didn't enjoy reading it much. Either there wasn't a plot or I didn't pick it. At some points it felt like reading a story without knowing the beginning and the ending. In fact I had to check, if the ending I read was the real ending and my e book is not missing some last pages. Sometimes felt like, Maze Runner except that their memories weren't erased. Loads of irrelevant descriptions...
Ever read Mr. Chips? Like that it's taught to middle school kids. On the other hand there were parts (specially chapter names) when you'd dive in deeply knowing something is going to happen but... Maybe it'd be different if I had taken each kid as a representation of different human habit/society and each thing is symbolic like The Little Prince?
I know it's not necessary to have character development or a good plot to make a good story...you don't have to agree with my opinion.
Anyway, I'd love to hear what you've to say about it.

I have never read Colleen, but I'm up for it :D


I've heard of her. She writes YA, NA, and Contemporary Romance, right? I'm into Romantic Suspense these days. I'm craving a healthy dose of Mystery and Suspense with my Romances. Lol.
Regarding Lord of the Flies:
I haven't read it, but I read an article where it was stated that the same thing that happened in the book—a group of boys getting stranded on an island—actually happened in real life as well. However, the real-life outcome was a lot different than what was described in the book.
Here's the link to the article:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theg...
I found it interesting so thought I'd share :-)

Sounds good , if everyone else is in favour , let's make it the December Read?
@Ramla
Yes that's exactly how it's written. Like you said it comes across as profound and easily relatable. That's because it was actually something of Marcus Aurelius' journal , and it was never meant for publication.
Some 150ish pages of one of the most powerful people ever to live speaking to himself about life , how to live it well and death , and all in a simple manner. So yes it does come across as very insightful :D.
The collective wisdom of a life well lived.
Oh and I heard about the article too , apparently what happened was the exact opposite of the book? Amusing stuff

I can't commit to reading the whole book in a month—too much on my plate—but I'll continue reading the quotes on Goodreads and will try to join in when you guys discuss those parts. Will that be okay?
Uzair wrote: "Oh and I heard about the article too , apparently what happened was the exact opposite of the book?"
Yes, that's what I gathered from the article.

I'm simultaneously working on books from the past 2 buddy reads

I'd check out link later. Thank you.


Great then count me in for Meditations in December :-) (If it gets selected.)
By the way, there are different editions of the book available on Amazon. Which one are you reading? I intend to read the quotes directly from Goodreads, but I'd still like to have the book in case I feel like going through it. Thanks :-)


Walaikum Assalam Batool,
How are you?
Regarding buddy read: I'm planning to start Forbidden Territory by Paula Graves soon. It's a Romantic Suspense featuring a psychic female protagonist. It sounds it would be interesting from the description. Would you like to read it with me? If it doesn't seem appealing to you that's okay too. I'll just read it on my own :-)

I know how you feel. My daughter is having her second quarterly exams, and we're all going crazy helping her prepare. She has her Math exam on Friday, and I have to say I don't remember 5th grade Math being so hard when I was a student. Lol. Anyway, all the best with your finals :-)
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