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They were called Jaghut. Returned to this way of living, in the cities they had abandoned long before. They were drawn to a humble man, a half-blood. They were drawn to his great machine of memories, this place he made by his own hand. What he did not possess within him, he built around him. To trap all that he was.
The city is called Icarias.
It appears that both Jaghut and K’Chain lived here at one stage side by side
...he now saw other creatures. In what seemed peaceful co-existence, huge two-legged reptiles began appearing in scenes.
The city’s nature repels Forkrul Assail.
Whatever force still lingered here was inimical to the Forkrul Assail. A despiser of justice—she could almost taste its contempt for her.
And the Shigal Assassin steals Gesler and Stormy away – we now have the Mortal Sword and Shield Anvil of the K’Chain Chemalle. I liked this...
’She’s Destriant and you’re Shield Anvil and I’m Mortal Sword—’
‘Wrong way round,’ Gesler snarled. ‘I’m the Mortal Sword—’
‘Good. Glad we got that settled. Now get her to cook us something—’
‘Oh, is that what Destriants do, then? Cook for us?’
Its been hinted at all along but Gesler and Stormy are declared ascendants by Fiddler at least
They’ve been snatched. Right out from the middle of a whole damned army. Gesler. Stormy. Why them? Oh don’t be obtuse, Fid. They were annealed in the Forge of Thyrllan. Ascendants both.
I believe Badelle of the Snake has a vision describing the snatch from the POV of the Assassin
She dreamed her eyes—and she had more of those than she should, no matter—fixed upon the two burning spots she sought. Bright golden hearth-flames—she had been tracking them for a long time now, in service to the commands she had been given.
She was descending upon the children.
To steal fire.
I’m wondering now if this was why the Shigal had targeted Gruntle. Maybe it was looking for human ascendants as contenders for SA and MS?
Anyway – now the K’Chain have their Destriant, Mortal sword and Shield Anvil – the whole K’Chain army is on its way
Kalyth then rose. ‘They come.’
‘Who come?’ Gesler asked.
‘K’Chain Che’Malle. Army. Soon... war.’
At that moment Gesler felt the trembling ground underfoot. Stormy did the same and as one they both turned to face north.
Fener’s holy crotch.
Brys Beddict talks about a god who used to live on the wastelands whose power was sucked from it by K'Chain Chemalle using a ritual that involved the FA warren of Korvalain.
‘There was a god once... I know its name but that isn’t particularly relevant now. What is relevant is where it dwelt: in the lands we now call the Wastelands. It lived there and it died there. Its life was stolen from it by a force, a power coming from the K’Chain Che’Malle—a civilization, by the way, that I’d never heard of, but in that god’s memories there are the name itself and scattered... images.’ He shook his head, and after a moment continued, ‘It may be that this power’—and he glanced over at Aranict for a moment—’is one of these warrens you Malazans have brought to us. Or it could have been a ritual of some sort. Its name was Ahkrast Korvalain.
The ritual sucked the very life out of the wasteland
What it did, Captain, was steal the life-force of the land itself. In fact, it may well have created the Wastelands, and in so doing it killed the spirits and gods dwelling there, and with them, their worshippers.’
The end result is that it's going to be hard to do magic there according to Bottle - except in pockets
the Wastelands might as well be dusted in otataral. Attempting sorcery here is like pulling teeth. Most places, that is. But there’s other, uh, places, where it’s the damned opposite
And the Shigal Assassin steals Gesler and Stormy away – we now have the Mortal Sword and Shield Anvil of the K’Chain Chemalle. I liked this...I think the first choice for mortal sword was gruntle because gu'rull because he carried gruntle with him but when gruntle became too much for him to handle he simply let him go.
I believe Badelle of the Snake has a vision describing the snatch from the POV of the Assassin
I think badalle is using a warren to repel FA, but cannot pin point as to which it is.
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Is the city one big machine, or just filled with some of his machines? It seemed like the latter to me.
It seemed like the latter to me.Ya it seems like a some machines were present in the city which although is present in the desert is able to provide fertile land to cultivate fruits as well as provide fresh water and cool breeze.
Good pickup about Badelle and her vision, I missed that completely. Also, about Gruntle - too bad the Trygalle wagon had to pay the price.
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The city is described as one big machine, powered by solar energy captured and directed by the crystal above
Above on the surface, the buildings, the domes and spires and tilted towers; the rooms and the plazas and spiral staircases: they each marked the perfect placement of a single, enormous machine. A machine of light and colours. But not just light, not just colours.
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They each marked...
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Also this is followed up by
They were drawn to his great machine of memories, this place he made by his own hand. What he did not possess within him, he built around him. To trap all that he was.
The city is called Icarias.
Suggesting that Icarias is one machine.
I also understood the whole city to be one machine, and I think that's strengthened by how the core of the machine is broken. Of course I'm very curious as to who broke it and whether all this is part of the Nameless Ones' manipulations.
I forgot about the Nameless One's...
I figured Icarium destroyed it. But it could also have happened during the K'Chain war.
